Another win for Zam

[paul c]

For those of you that don't visit Ax,

Mike Zambidis def Wanlop in Italy last night. Ax site says that the fight went the distance, but that Wanlop was dropped in the fourth I believe.

[SPADA]

He must be a reasonable fighter Paul...
Not many people go the distance with Mike Zambidis.

[sirbillyg]

anyway we can watch this fight


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[Glenn]

He is Muay Thai fighter from Pattaya, Thailand.

[JANER]

Farrr out.. To got the distance with zam he must be good.

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[everlast]

It's funny how no-one says the same about Baris Nezif and when they fought zam was an unknown.

[SPADA]

Zam was good as an unknown against Baris....Now he is
"nearly" unstoppable.

[JANER]

Baris is a Legend! Dont worry everlast, I had the same argument when as you when talk was about.

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[sirbillyg]

if baris had concentrated on that fight instead of listening to what the crowd was saying and reacting to it and beeing really cocky
he might of had a better chance


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[krama]

sirbillyg

nothing would have saved Baris's arse that night - ZAM could have finished him in any round he wanted to - Baris was dropped 3 times and every time he got back up ZAM held back - you can dispute all you like - fact is Baris had no hope - end of story
by the way - I'm not a Baris basher - he is a great fighter, I appreciated him more when he didnt display the new found cocky smart a r s e attitude he had of late -
after reading the interview in IK - its even worse when he simply cannot admit that he was completely outgunned by ZAM - maybe its Turkish pride

[JANER]

Zam was pounding Baris with his best shots. Baris didnt get knocked out!! He copped heaps from Zam and didnt go down.

Baris's gameplan was wrong. He tried to box it out, rather should of kept Zam at bay. For Baris, zam was a real surprise. Zam is the best fighter in his division in the world, and for BAris to take this fight on not knowing who the hell he is, and to last 12 rounds is absolutely amazing!!! Other fighters in Australia who have had time to study Zambidis havent even lasted half the rounds Baris did.

I reckon Baris's cocky attitide really only evolved cause he has had enough from the sport and was unbeaten for 5years and done it all. Its like "here we go again". The second point maybe that he didnt get the recognition he deserved. SImilar attidude to Gurkan Ozkan. Gurkan has worked for soo many years to show he is a great entertainer and a great bloke. Where in contract, Baris couldt care less. He is now a married man and theres a time to move on. Baris still can say, he is the only fighter to last 12 rounds with the worlds best kickboxer!

Baris you are still one of Australia's best welterweights!

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[JANER]

(didnt go down in the 12 with that HUGE barrage)

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[everlast]

Sorry Krama and Sirbilly, can't agree with you there.
Baris went for close to 20 fights without a loss and was very underated as a fighter.
I don't blame him for promoting himself more. As for his performance in his last few fights, when he lost to zam he was thrown in the scrap heap. I would lose my heart for the sport if after so many years people just pushed you to the side.

[everlast]

thanks janer couldn't have said it better myself

[everlast]

P.s. Not taking anything away from Zam, I think he is an excellent fighter, with a lot of accomplishments for his age.

I just don't think that he is unstoppable.

[Pele]

Gday

I was just looking at that Muay Thai rankings website someone posted a while ago and JWP(72kg) and Zambidis(69kg) are not near the top in either of there divisions. These are the people ahead of them. Does anyone know if they have fought any of these:

Ettouhlali Najim MOR IMO Champion

01 Veselic Stjepan NED

02 Posai Hor. Hattanachai THA

03 Duan-Esarn Kiatsarika THA

04 Sackmonkhol Kiatsongrit THA

05 Nuengtrakarn Por. Muang-Ubol THA

06 Sauwer Andy NED

07 Parr Wayne AUS




Champion Jomhod Kiatadisak FIN

01 Chaowalit Jockey Gym THA

02 Sakeddao K.T.Gym THA

03 Villaume Farid FRA

04 Seksun Carryboy THA

05 Densudkheed Mahachai-Villa THA

06 Changpuak Chor. Sriprasert THA

07 Aroetjunjan Drago RUS

08 Chalunlap FRA

09 Zambidis Mike GRE


Pele.

[SDM]

Sorry to get off the subject of Zambidis too much here but i agree mostly with everlast, even if it means i'll be ignored or ridiculed!!! That's cool coz it's an opinion page to me....

Baris was meant to fight Ben Steel in Newcastle probably about 2 yrs ago now, Ben Steel knew he had a knee injury & didnt say anything till just before the fight. They agreed, Baris was forced really, i spose, to fight boxing rules & he still wiped the floor with Steel.

i personally think Steel knew he wasn't ready for Baris under k/boxing rules & the crowd was quite rude to Baris when it wasn't really anything to do with him, he still took the fight like any champion would, he could have said 'stuff ya's'!

So I understand his arrogance a bit as i saw the s h i t he copped. Just a bit of info for yas, food for thought...



Edited by - SDM on 21 May 2003 12:19:21

[Glenn]

Also, this was Wanlop's first kickboxing fight in a career of over 300 Muay Thai fights.

[SPADA]

Muay Thai rankings
Wasn't Jomhod the guy who stopped Paul Briggs with
leg kicks back in 1993 at Festival hall Brisbane?????

[JANER]

Raankings? I reckon there a load of baloney. Do you guys remember the ISKA rankings at the back of the IK mag? What a useless peice of garbage. lol Know the one I mean?

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[Glenn]

Yes, that was Jomhod. He is fights out of Finland these days.

The rankings to go by for Muay Thai are the Lumpinee and Rajamadreaman stadium rankings. Have a look on a search engine and you'll find them.

BTW,Zambidis shouldn't even be ranked on the independent rankings list posted here, as he has never fought Muay Thai and is not a Muay Thai fighter!.

[Servant1]

Taking nathing away from Baris i think he is, was a great fighter, but a lot of u have missed the point Baris was undeffeded for so long and iron mike went in as an under card and won, it takes balls and corige to jump in the ring with a fighter like Barish and his fight record (at the time) and come out victorios!

If Baris wonted respect back way didnt he fight mike again at the night of stan vs oscan as he was suppose to, just like all good fighter do, go back and fight there opponents that have deffeted them to get the respect back.

Baris new for a fact that there was no way he was going to beet mike so he would rather keep it at just one deffet against mike.


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[paul c]

Firstly, no disrespect meant to Baris as I'm a big fan.
But I reckon Baris absolutely did the right thing by not fighting Mike.

We saw Baris be troubled by Alexy, again no disrespect meant to Alexy, but if Baris couldn't beat him convincingly, there is little point stepping in against Zambidis. I mean, I think Zam is about as viscious a puncher there is in that division, and anyone that wants a go at zam I think needs to be in stand out condition.

If Baris is to have a re-match with Zam, I think he should come in confident that he at least has a very decent shot. I think that fight with Alexy was Baris's second since either late 99 or early 2000, and reckon Baris will need to be a lot more active than that to get himself in peak condition for Zam.

I do hope that his retirement isn't perminent, and that he doesn't if he does decide to fight again, that he doesn't waste too many years. But, I understand he's a young man and needs to concentrate on some of the other great and important things in life for now, but hopefully we'll see him back.

I think before Zam, that Baris was the closest thing to Zam back then that I had seen. He had some amazing and devasting KO's. I personally saw Danilovic, Mcfee and Duett live, and they were some of the best KO's I've seen.

[everlast]

good point about being inactive paul, but i remember when he got in the ring in springvale in 98-99 and challenged all the top fighters in his weight division ( by name ) because he couldn't get a fight - his words "I am the world champion and I will fight anyone to prove it", those are the words of a true champion and after his fight with zam he was on the other end where people were saying he was finished. In an ik mag article the reporter says " ever since your fight with zam things seem to have gone down hill", his response "i've had 3 fights 2 wins and 1 draw - how is that downhill", and i agree with him, however a lot of people share the reporters sentiment.

[sirbillyg]

wasnt he going to rematch zambo but tarik pulled him out of no respect cause he wasnt doing so well and tarik didnt think it would be fair matchup or something like that.....



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[Servant1]

sirbillyg

Unfortunally not, tarik didnt pull him out, because since wene has tarik really cared about fair matchups all his shows are about un fair muchups but any way the point is Baris pulled out because he new that there was now way he was going to beet mike!

[Servant1]

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