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admin
18-05-2003, 01:02 PM
Hi guys

In November 2000 I had the honour of being able to hang out for a couple of nights with Bill Goldberg when he was in melbourne with the old WCW crew. Myself, Sam Greco, Tarik Solak and "Mad" Mario Phlorides took the great man out on the town for two nights and spent some quality time with him.

I managed to sit down with Goldberg and do a big interview with him which was published in an issue of Blitz but you may not all have seen.

So - HERE IT IS! Now remember this is almost 3 years old... but he talks all about his martial arts training, football career, UFC, K-1 and more!!

ENJOY!

PS: Goldberg is a GREAT bloke, for the record. I am often a little hesitant to meet people who I have always loved from a fan point of view, and you find find a bigger Goldberg fan than me... but after meeting and hanging with him allI have are great memories of two wild nights with a humble, down-to-earth guy.


By Michael Schiavello

Bill Goldberg is the world’s most unlikely superhero. A six-foot-five brooding hulk of a man with a neck the size of an oak and the most intimidating trapeziums in the world, he is the former WCW world heavyweight champion and holds the record for the longest winning streak in professional wrestling history.
Michael Schiavello caught up with the man who has become a marketing phenomenon. A sports entertainment legend. And one of the most famous names on the planet.

SCHIAVELLO: You went from playing professional football (grid iron) to becoming a pro wrestler. How did that transition come about?

GOLDBERG: I got hurt playing football and I tore my abdomen. Unfortunately I couldn’t play any more. And that’s the only thing I ever wanted to do. Ever since I was a kid all I wanted to do was to play football. When I got injured I had no idea what the hell I was going to do for the rest of my life.
For about a year or two years while I was trying to physically get back into playing football I went into depression because I knew that realistically I couldn’t go back to it. It was like starting over and I didn’t know what the hell I was going to do. I had no idea!
Throughout the years I had always trained at a gym in Atlanta (Main Event Fitness) that was owned by Sting and Lex Luger. They had always talked to me about wrestling and I said there was no way I was going to do that: it’s too damn embarrassing, it’s ridiculous.
But you know what, I went to an event with Sting one time and I saw that he could do it and I respected him so if he could do it I figured I could do it. So I did. And the rest, as they say, is history.

SCHIAVELLO: How does the contact of pro football compare to the contact you endure in pro wrestling?

GOLDBERG: The actual contact isn’t nearly as violent in wrestling because we know it’s coming. For 18 seconds, which is an average play in a game of pro football, that’s the most violent 18 seconds you can have. Except for something like, I guess, Aussie Rules football which is pretty damn violent too, but they’re not running at you full steam with their heads down trying to kill you.
The attrition on your body, the constant pounding, is much worse in wrestling. Obviously we wrestle every two or three days, fifty-two weeks out of the year, as opposed to sixteen games over six months which is a football season.

SCHIAVELLO: I believe that you have done some martial arts training. Is this true?

GOLDBERG: I have done some Sambo (native Russian submission grappling art), Aikido (Japanese art of opposing force with movement) and I just do kumite - full contact sparring. I have done that for years. I never tested for belts, I always only took martial arts as it pertained to football. I did Aikido because I was a defensive lineman and I used my hands all the time. I needed the angles and body movement and balance of Aikido. And I started enjoying it. That led me to doing some submission classes.
The Sambo is awesome. I started studying that after the first UFC. A lot of my moves now come from the UFC. One of the moves that Oleg Taktarov did was very flamboyant, very visual. I had never seen it before and it caught my eye and I thought that I would start doing some of that in the ring because if I liked it then wrestling fans would like it.

SCHIAVELLO: You’re not opposed to going to the ground and working the arm-bars or the leg-locks.

GOLDBERG: The only problem is why would I go down to the ground with guys if I can beat the **** out of them standing on my feet. So unfortunately I haven’t been doing many takedowns because there haven’t been many guys bigger than me. If it is realistic in a streetfight then I will do it in a match, but that hasn’t happened much lately. That really sucks because I would really like to do the groundwork more.

SCHIAVELLO: The Goldberg character is a strength-based, power-based character. My most vivid memory of your career is when you picked up the 500 Giant (Paul Wight, Big Show) and held him upside down before jackhammering him (the Jackhammer is Goldberg’s patent finishing move). How do you develop the strength to man-handle a huge man like The Giant?

GOLDBERG: Football. It is explosive power that I developed from football. Force equals mass times acceleration. If I hit you before you hit me, it will be more forceful, it’s going to hurt a lot more and it will have more power behind it. All the moves I used to do in the gym were ballistic movements which were for speed and power at the same time, not just strength. Functional strength. I think that is the difference between me and 99% of the other guys. I weigh 290 pounds and I can move like some of these goofs that weigh 180 pounds because they have no athletic ability. So it makes me look that much more athletic, but in reality they are just not athletic enough.

SCHIAVELLO: What does a regular gym session consist of?

GOLDBERG: These days unfortunately it is all catered towards what hurts the least that day. I have a torn rotator cuff so I haven’t done shoulders effectively for months. I do circuit training, I don’t do any cardio except for sparring and hitting the bags, and I move very fast when I work out. For instance if I do shoulders and triceps I will do a shoulder exercise I will do a neck I will do a tricep and I will do a stomach exercise and rotate them all day. I never stop to talk. I hate talking in the gym, it’s where I work.

SCHIAVELLO: Would you ever consider competing in something such as the UFC or Pride?

GOLDBERG: Not any more. I make more money in two weeks than those guys do in a year.

SCHIAVELLO: So there was a time when you would have considered it?

GOLDBERG: I would have considered it at the beginning and I would still consider doing Pride or something like that, but the price has to be right. Fact is though that my body is so screwed up right now that even though I know I could do it in my mind I don’t know if my body could do it any more. I’m smart enough to know that I don’t have to prove myself to anybody, period. And as far as being realistic about my own physical incapabilities right now due to my injuries, I mean if I get a guy in the ring now and he screws up and goes for an armbar on my bad arm then I’m done. It bothers me all the time just walking around. So I just have to be realistic about it.

SCHIAVELLO: The phenomenon of Bill Goldberg is amazing. You have become the biggest entity in professional wrestling, perhaps even bigger than Hulk Hogan of the 1980s. How do you explain Goldberg the phenomenon, which is separate to the personal Bill Goldberg.

GOLDBERG: Well first of all I have to say that it is an honour to even be put in the same sentence as Hogan. He even said the same thing to me, that he was going to give me his throne, and I was floored. I guess I am just lucky. I am the luckiest guy on the planet. I was in the right place at the right time.
(WCW) tried to do the same thing with many people before but they couldn’t pull it off, so obviously I brought something to the table that nobody had brought before.

SCHIAVELLO: I guess the strange thing about Goldberg the character is that it is so simple.

GOLDBERG: There is nothing to it. That’s why I thought of it. It derived from watching the UFC, period. I figured that if this is entertaining me and I can take a character that looks like that and put it into the ring with my football background and what I derived mentally and physically from football then I could succeed. And I was right. It took a lot of people helping me along the way but as far as the concept I came up with it. And it is so simple that it is stupid. It is stupid that nobody came up with it before me. I thought, ‘what are these guys thinking? It’s not hard!’ I guess that I just had the right package.

SCHIAVELLO: Are you aware of your popularity and of using your image to good effect?

GOLDBERG: Oh God, in everything I do, yeah. Kids are very impressionable… everybody’s very impressionable. They like to emulate a lot. I am very careful with what I do and say now. I won’t do any violence with a woman in the ring. I won’t cuss. I won’t do anything like that any more on TV. There are enough assholes who do it so let them do it, let them demean themselves. As far as I’m concerned I’d rather have kids watch our show rather than their parents not allow them to watch it because there is sex, drugs and rock ‘n’ roll.

SCHIAVELLO: You carry the world’s most famous tattoo on your arm. Can you explain what exactly the design is?

GOLDBERG: I wanted a tattoo my whole life. I saw a guy ironically enough on some kind of UFC-knockoff. I saw this guy fight in it and he had a killer tattoo man. But I couldn’t see it up close so I got a rough picture in my mind and went to the tattoo parlour and saw some designs that were kind of similar. Then the artist and I altered it to my shoulder and he kept freehand drawing it and I gave it the okay and it was something we just made up.
You know when we did the film ‘Ready to Rumble’ in the gym scene, there were two guys Thai fighting in the background and one of them was that guy with the tattoo! And you know what, his tattoo is awful! It’s horrible!

SCHIAVELLO: You have worked on two movies: Universal Soldier II and Ready To Rumble…in Unisol you starred alongside Jean-Claude Van Damme. What was it like working with Van Damme?

GOLDBERG: He was pretty cool. He was very respectful to me and was easy to work with. I have heard a lot of good and bad things about him but you draw your own conclusions and he was great to me.

SCHIAVELLO: Are there more movies in the pipeline?

GOLDBERG: (smiles) Oh yeah, definitely.

SCHIAVELLO: What is the worst thing about your life Bill?

GOLDBERG: That I have no privacy. But do you know what the best thing about my life is?

SCHIAVELLO: That was my next question…

GOLDBERG: That I have no privacy. That’s the best and the worst. Because if nobody cared, nobody wanted your autograph, nobody called you at the house, nobody followed you down the street, you know you ain’t ****. At least I am making an impact some way, positively. The best thing is that I can be a magician for kids. I can go to a hospital and see a kid who has cancer and spend five minutes with him and during that five minutes he may forget about having cancer. That’s the biggest gift I can ever be bestowed.

SCHIAVELLO: I notice that when people ask you for an autograph you actually thank them.

GOLDBERG: It’s my honour to be able to do it. I mean if people are nice to me I will sign autographs on my death bed.

SCHIAVELLO: What has been your most memorable match?

GOLDBERG: Hogan, for sure, when I won the title. It was in Atlanta in front of 41,000 people and it broke the record for televised wrestling audience. It was great.

SCHIAVELLO: What about your worst match? When Kevin Nash lost you the title?

GOLDBERG: Oh yeah… it was on my birthday. That was the last time I had the belt. What’s wrong with that picture? It goes to show you that you don’t have to have the belt to be the man.

SCHIAVELLO: It doesn’t bother you that you don’t have the title?

GOLDBERG: If I do my best I don’t care what anyone else does. I don’t have to be the top guy but if that is the path that is chosen for me then that is great. But if I am 0 and 250 and make the same amount of money, well, it’s choreographed. It’s a business. That is no reflection on my ability to protect myself.
I had the best conversation with Arn Anderson after my third match, which is the first time I ever lost (nobody ever knew about that match). He said, ‘Kid how does it feel to lose?’
I said do I get paid any less for losing and he said no. I said is it real and he said no. So I said beat me every night! We all have a job to do. We’re all actors.

SCHIAVELLO: When you first heard that Australia’s Sam Greco was joining the WCW, what were your initial thoughts?

GOLDBERG: I was excited. Any time that somebody can come into the wrestling business and bring more credibility and respectability as an athlete and a person, what else can you ask for? Especially in the world that I live in. A world where guys can go out to bars and think that they are the same guy they are in the ring. It is the most embarrassing thing sometimes to be associated with the guys in this business. My main mission when I got to wrestling was to take it to mainstream America and decrease the negative stereotype of wrestlers. I never wanted to walk down the street and have someone say, ‘Oh man, there’s a wrestler.’ That’s a horrible thing to be called… but not any more.

SCHIAVELLO: Is there trepidation among the other wrestlers about someone of Sam’s stature coming into WCW? That he is the real deal; he is the kickboxing world champion and the Karate world champion?

GOLDBERG: What do you think? These guys are scared ****less. All I can say is any time you get anybody in there that looks half decent and has any athletic ability, all of these guys are going to think their jobs are in jeopardy because some of them are so damn insecure. They will do anything they can do to better themselves at someone else’s expense.
Sam presents a couple of problems for a few guys. I mean when he threw that kick (on debut in Australia) it took thirty minutes to convince a guy to take the kick. He knew the kick was coming and he knew where it was coming!
I’m used to it. I mean if I said I was going to punch you in the face in five seconds, then you would know how to block it and you would have the sense enough to block it without having to practice. That is just what we have to do.

SCHIAVELLO: What can we expect from Goldberg over the next couple of years?

GOLDBERG: Probably a lot more injuries, mainly not to me but to my opponents. I have two-and-a-half more years on my contract here and I would like to sign one more contract either with WCW or WWF, depending on our futures. Or I would just like to act. I would love to go straight to Hollywood.

SCHIAVELLO: Will we see you in Australia next year, maybe for our K-1 Oceania?

GOLDBERG: I would love to come back for February 18, for the K-1.

SCHIAVELLO: You are aware of what the K-1 is all about?

GOLDBERG: Oh yeah man, I met with the K-1 a year ago. They wanted me to come and do it, as ridiculous as that sounds! I would have had to go and kick Sam’s ass! (laughs). But the fact is that I respect every type of martial art, not because of their ability to do what they do physically, but it is a mental thing. It is a way of life. I have followed Sam and I have seen his work and I try to learn from it.

Koshy
18-05-2003, 02:44 PM
TTT that was really interesting. Thanks Michael.

paul c
18-05-2003, 04:14 PM
Michael,

This is great, but

dude it's going to be lost in the forums somewhere in a couple of weeks.

It would be good to put all the interviews in the one place.

admin
19-05-2003, 06:39 PM
ttt

k1_fighta
07-11-2004, 08:29 PM
Stumbled across this...TTT

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Matt J
07-11-2004, 10:30 PM
ummm...goldberg? ooookay...

admin
08-11-2004, 11:35 AM
Wow! This thread still existed!

Anyway, interesting to read about Goldberg's martial arts training!

Michael Schiavello

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supermario
08-11-2004, 02:14 PM
GOLD-BERG...! GOLD-BERG...! GOLD-BERG...! GOLD-BERG...! :)