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koko
01-05-2003, 08:31 PM
Hello kickboxing fans.
I too am a big kickboxing fan. I made the trip down to Melbourne from sydney for the HH vs GLADIATOR fight
I am not writing to have a go at anybody personally (i don't know anybody on a personal level)but i was appalled at the official decision by the judges going HH's way.
I am a fan of both fighters and thought the fight was a good hard fight. Clearly in my eyes and a lot of others, THE GLADIATOR was the winner.
HH's usually lethal kicks, failed him on this occasion having no effect on the GLADIATOR. HH improved his handwork and jab which is the only reason why the GLADIATOR did'nt knock him out. Although the GLADIATOR did drop HH to the canvas in every round and in the 4th round got an 8 count on HH after getting the knee in and knocking HH down. (by the way, i thought the counting starts when the hands hit the canvas, faster counting too)!
This is how i scored the fight : Round 1:GLADIATOR
Round 2:HH(maybe)
Round 3:GLADIATOR
Round 4:GLADIATOR
Round 5:HH
Please let me know how you scored!
It took a lot of class for HH's trainer to announce THE GLADIATOR the winner after the Judges had given it to HH. Clearly this says a lot about the bad judging. The promotor should have reversed the decision straight away. It's still not too late and i think the matter should be addressed properly and seriously.
The fans were mad, the trainers disgusted and both HH and THE GLADIATOR shocked. This is disgraceful.
The fighters put in a lot of time and hard work for the fights they deserve fair judging.
In a recent interview with THE GLADIATOR Evan said "he hasn't been able to commit to work the last couple of years because he wanted to give the sport a serious go". It's fighters like these that are promoting the sport (you should see his fans everybody) and shonky judging and promoters that are rubbishing kickboxing.
I second HH's trainers opinion that Evan THE GLADIATORS record still remains unblemished. Making it 11 out of 11.
Evan you should consider boxing. Boxing is booming in sydney and i know you have loads of fans over here. Just a thought!
Evan Congratulations, you are a humble spirit-filled young man who has won his fans with your charming personality, kindness and passion for the sport. You are a champion who will reap the rewards. God bless you.

Fans write in and tell me what you think.
Can't wait to see the fight on Foxtel.

See Ya In Sydney Maybe Evan?
KOKO

koko
02-05-2003, 12:28 AM
These are exactly the kind of remarks you'd expect from a guy with a profile such as yours. I mean "seriously what the hell do you expect? To be taken seriously"?
These issues do make a real difference to the sport. It's losers like you that tarnish it.

sethridge
02-05-2003, 02:56 AM
you tell em koko,

smokin
02-05-2003, 10:26 PM
koko spoke to evan today and was pretty upset about it all if you email me i think coments like yours would cheer him up his arm is broke and in plaster 4 eight weeks and even had to buy a automatic car today to get around
and thinks he done enuf to win but your rite he is humble and a very good ambassodor of the sport and will fite another day

jo

krama
03-05-2003, 10:13 AM
Koko makes some valid points

Myself, together with a number of buddies who have been involved in the fight game for ages, are sick to death of these ridiculous decisions, and even worse when the promoter steps in to alter the outcome or try save his reputation.

It is a difficult problem to fix - must come from the top down, unfortunately it is the top level who are most probably involved in pre fight discussions with refs etc -
The sport has been tarnished by these stupid outcomes - with a heap of people refusing to attend certain promoters shows (Tarik)
Ultimately - it is difficult for both the fighters and fans to accept these decisions, bu a true champ will take it on the chin and come back even stronger next time
The fact is NO ONE will view Evan as anything but a decent, respectable and bloody great future up and comer, Evan should understand he has a great future ahead of him, has earned the respect of the fighting viewers and should focus on the getting himself healed and prepared for the next encounter.
He must also remember, this is simply part of his learning curve, sadly it may not be the last time a dodgy decision like this is made against him - in these cases its not what these useless judges thought but what the viewers, trainers and he himself believe.

JANER
03-05-2003, 01:04 PM
KOKO, didnt you get the point? In 1 sentence, bad decision happen and have been happening for many many years, so I guess I have came immune to it.

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

DOG FLOGGA
07-05-2003, 01:27 AM
smokin hello mate,i definately agree with what you replied to koko with.on the other side of the fence we have people like janner talking all that jazz! hmmmm i wonder how much he's getting payed?

ps: i remember you,you had a mean body rip in your day.its asmall world.

GOLD FINGER...