Fight Decisions

[JKLA]

Got a question to anyone who can answer;

When decisions get made by judges that are poor, and quite evident to be false, can the decision be appealed?
Is there a board that can review these bad decisions made by judges to either have the decision reversed or the judges judging licenses revoked (in extreme or repetitive cases)?

Evan has got a good fight record with 0 losses until fightin Headhunter. After reading several posts here it seems like majority votes that the decision was unfair. If this is true, then a fighter like Evan who has worked hard for his record, gets hard done. I know this happens a lot to many fighters in both Kickboxing and Boxing, and I believe that something should be done about it.

Also, I have seen one fight (can't remember who) when Tarik jumped in the ring and announced that the fight had been incorrectly called by the judges (who were in favour of Tariks Fighter from Braveheart academy). Tarik announced that his student did not win the fight before the whole crowd, which makes it look like the promoter has more say over the judges.

One judge in particular is Jamal Hussuen (sorry for incorrect spelling). I have noticed that his scoring is extremely biased and unfair in my opinion.

Anyway, back to the topic, does anyone have info if fight decisions and judges creditbility can be appealed?

[paul c]

Don't know,

But I second your oppinion that it should be appealable.

Espescially in circumstances where a win in one fight gets you entry into a huge payday event.

[remy]

But imagine winning a fight celebrating, making plans that change your life and then get an appeal brought forward against you and you lose the fight.

They should be able to investigate the judges, and suspend them or kick them out of future shows, etc.

[krama]

Further on this - who actually determines who the judges will be for particular fights - why was Jemal Hassan - who seems very biased toward certain pighters judging against Evan v HH?

[harls]

Good question. I think we need some fresh faces judging. The decisions over the last 12 months have been the worst i've ever seen and it seems to be getting worse..

[mehmet]

i think Mr Hassan shoudent be judged like that... i think his a very fair man and is very well respected in the kickboxing world... i dont think he would be cheating to make anyone loss... and if evan lost then why should he appil? why cant all the fighters appil there is allways a re match... i dont think any of the judges on the night cheated essipally a local veteren like Cemal Hassan... i think its very rude of you guys to judge the man like that...

[paul c]

Remy,

Not as bad as being jipped in the first place I reckon.

[remy]

But it's so subjective Paul. Who is going to decide on the appeal. It could become a long process with expert witnesses. Where does it stop? Very difficult to put appeals into practice. Best way is to have proven competent judges. Judges stuff up badly then they should be demoted.

[paul c]

I think it's hard to cheat with video.

[sethridge]

JKLA....... evan does not have an unblemished record he lost to a fighter from WA evan was stopped in 2nd round, i think it was to darren curovic.. recently some wa fighters went over to thailand and fought in some kind of world tournament some of the fighters were CHRIS WHITE from phon martdee STEPHINI BOUQATE from phons RICHARD PRICE from phons and sam konu,darren curvic,darren reece with chris white bringing home silver and our very own stephini bringing the gold... and steph at only 16 is the current IMTF world champion who will be defending that title against thailand champion on may 12th. also RHINO will be fighting a fighter from belarus who won the european king of the ring this year.. and darren reece is also fighting soren monkongton.. with a good solid undercard of all WAs top muaythai fighters. the show is held by phon martdee. ill post the results after the show if anyone is interested..

[JKLA]

True
Video replays have many camera angles, and slow motion capabilities helping to determin whether shots hit their targets or not, whehter points have been correctly awarded or not. I read that headhunter was dropped but appealed a low blow shot to the groin. I think it might of been Schiavello (not sure) who posted that when reviewing the replay Evans knee clearly hit the solarplexes, therefore a legit knock down. Thats just one case.
I know this raises issues that every loosing fighter may appeal, but respectively if the judges know that their credibility will be assessed more closely should a decision be appealed, it may make them score the fights more accurately without being biased towards one fighter.
Like Harls said, decisions over the past 12 months haven't been going to good, I've been reading heaps of posts here on the subject.
Bad decisions can be stopped or even minimised by introducing some sort of system like this.
Cheers
Johnny
(I dont hide behind the nick JKLA, real name is Johnny K but some one else posts with that name).