Aussies who have fought ranked Thais

[Hazard]

Interested to hear of Aussies who have fought ranked Thais, by this I mean ranked top ten at RaJa, Lumpini or Thai rankings. Off the top of my head I can think of three, but I'm sure there's more:
Preacher, beat Chaovalit and lost to Lamsongkran
JWP, beat Neungtrakan, Orono and surely fought others?
Soren, I think he lost to someone at Raja.

Any other names?

[scottya]

Didnt Soren fight Orono who was a ranked thai ?

Your Question is a little open

by this I mean ranked top ten at RaJa, Lumpini or Thai rankings

At the time of the fight are they ment to be a ranked fighter or been a ranked fighter in thai land ?

Ts2 Vs Rung, Rung was a ranked thai

[Hellfighter]

Soren fought Jomhod Kiatadisak too

gee, you don't ask much mate, try reading thru your old IK issues... or are you just starting out in this sport?

Dustan Engel, Stephan Fox, Daniel Cody, Rick Curnow, Nugget, Brian Murphy, Humpty, Josh Sexton, Craig Hogan, Paul Briggs, Brad Carter, Tony Hill, Kurt Finlayson, Shannon Forrestor, Ray Seares, Ben Holey, Gurkan Ozkan, Sam Soliman, Amir Shafyipour, Marcus Mangan, Eli Madigan, Russel Fry, Aaron Leigh, Ben Burton, Daniel Dawson, Darren Reece and the list goes on and on and on

[Hazard]

I'm interested in Aussies who have fought Thai who held a ranking at the time of the fight. The ranking should be with Raja, Lumpini or the Thai titles.

Hell, your list is a little long mate, I would be surprised if Jomhod held a ranking when Soren fought him, wasn't Rungchai a trainer in Koh Samui, I doubt he was ranked.

Most of the other names are a little dubious also. For example who did Tony Hill, Stephan Fox, Shannon Forrester fight?

[scottya]

What do you mean Rung wasnt rank he won a world title when he was 19
Held south thailand champion title

[QUIKDRAW]

Pixie Burton Fought Marwin Nakorntong when he was THAILAND and Rajadamnern Champion in Perth was a cracker fight....

[QUIKDRAW]

while im on it Riddler defeated some thai that was raja champ aswell at some stage...

[Hellfighter]

honestly mate, you no idea what you want to know you're just chasing arguements... so, the list would be:

find the information yourself and then blow it out your arse

[Hellfighter]

now, as an extension to the list for those who are interested... excluding Hazard:

Luke Kempson, Anthony Dutton, Andrew Keogh, Brett Dalton, Mark 'Hammer' Castagnini, Mitch Seth, Mark Staiti, Dane Beecham

any of these could be wrong (as in fighting top notch Thais), but they all fought over the years and had many wars

[Rumble]

Hey guys dont be so hard on hazard. i dont think his question is to silly.
just because the poster says that someone is fighting a thai champ dont believe that it really is a thai champ if ya know what I mean.
Most opf the thais we see fighting outside of thailand arent normally ranked fighters anymore as the ranked fighters dont often get the chance to fight outside thailand while in there prime.

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by Hellfighter

honestly mate, you no idea what you want to know you're just chasing arguements... so, the list would be:

find the information yourself and then blow it out your arse


Charming as always Hell, might pay to read that thread about posting crap. Not looking for arguments, just discussing things mate.

Just to clarify again, looking for Aussies fighting Thais while they held a ranking.

This would mean they would need to be active in Bangkok stadiums, so I think Rungchai is off the list. I even think that Wanlop wasn't active in the stadiums during the times he was fighting in Australia.

[scottya]

While they held a ranking
OR
While they hold a ranking ?

[Hellfighter]

wow, shot down again... righto, My Lord, please share from your extensive list of knowledge the nakmuays that you know have fought Thais that were ranked while fighting...

so far we have (from your list): JWP, Preacher and Soren... but keep in mind, just because you fight a Thai in a Stadium DOESN'T mean the Thai is ranked

[Hellfighter]

one last question (for now):

what I get from your enquiry is that any Aussie that fought a Thai ranked in a Stadium outside of BKK isn't a worthy of this list because their fight was like a backyard scrap?

forgot to add... Damien Meyer & John Myles

[Hazard]

It's because the Bangkok stadiums rankings have the best fighters. There are very few in the world who can fight to that standard, so I thought it would be interesting to see what Aussies have.

As Rex pointed out, those fighting outside of Thailand are rarely ranked. Even in the Slamm with top notch Thais, you'll notice many are above their normal weights.

Besides the 3 I've listed, there were also some Thais who fought at the Crown Casino in Melb in the 90s. Sam Soliman was on this show, so was Sakmongkol I think.

[Nish]

I studied with Damien Meyer for four years and i did;n t even know he was such a good thai boxer untill he showed me some pictures of his fights and then i was shocked :):)

[Aaden]

I'm with Hazard on this one. His question was simple. He wasn't starting sh*t. He simply wanted to know what aussies have fought Thais while they held a ranking at the stadiums. Legitimate question.

Hellfighter and Scottya take a chill pill. And his question is "while they held" a ranking.

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by Hellfighter
forgot to add... Damien Meyer & John Myles


Would be interested to hear who they fought and who Stephan Fox fought. I think the list is much shorter than the one you've presented.

[Hellfighter]

Sam Soliman vs Sakmongkol, Gurkan Ozkan vs Dendenai, Chris Allen vs Nuengtrakhan, Marcus Mangan vs Sangtiennoi

Sam said he wore Gi pants to try and throw Sak off his game... Sak was asked what he thought about Sam's style and he replied "it's unusual, but MuayThai has made me a millionaire so I think I can take it"

*not exact quote, just what I remember*

Mangan vs Sangtiennoi in my opinion was one of the most boring fights I have watched :-(

[Hazard]

Thanks Hell, do you know if any of the Aussies won?

So far we have only 7 Aussies?

[Hellfighter]

please don't thank me for doing your research... it's just lazy, but here is more work you don't have to do... none won, I think Mangan got a draw

I've just spoken with Soren and he mentioned:

"if you remember the very first Australia vs Thailand event at Festival Hall in Brisbane in 1994, then you will remember Nugget vs Wicharnoi who was the (current) CH7 Stadium Champion (this is actually in Bangkok, if you didn't know) and was also stadium ranked at the time... Nugget also fought Panpet Sit Paporn from Sasiprapa Gym who was stadium ranked

if it wasn't for guys like Nugget, Paul Briggs and Tony Hill, MuayThai wouldn't be anywhere near as big as it is now in QLD or in Australia... I was a young kid when these guys were fighting and I would never have gotten the "bug" for MuayThai and become involved in this awesome Art

Nugget will admit that he wasn't the greatest fighter in the world, but he always stepped up to the challenge especially against guns from other countries"

Hazard, do yourself a favour and instead of saying "you're nasty", "you need to read this thread about crap", "I'm gonna tell my Mum" and looking for brownie points from other members, start doing some research of your own so you have information to throw back

oh, and if you're trying to call out Stephan Fox... why don't you ring him? Because after knowing him for 12 years as a trainer/fighter/promoter/friend, this is one guy that has certainly dedicated many years of his life and many hours every day to the promotion of MuayThai around the world and doesn't deserve a nobody like yourself trying to discredit him thru an internet forum

Dave 'Hellfighter'

[Hazard]

So from the rather long post we can gather that Nugget is also on the list and you don't think I should be asking questions.

Hell, are there forum rules banning ppl from asking questions? I think you should read the thread on crap because it's applicable.

The contribution of Nugget and Stephan is noted, as are many others, even if they didn't fight rank Thais or even fight at all.

I started the thread to establish who did fight ranked Thais, because I think there's a lot of misconceptions in this area, as can be seen by some ppl's lists.

[Bushi]

Chris "The Manchester Machine" Allen was a pom..

Also I understood Hazard's question, so there shouldn't be ANY debate...:(

[klinkkkk]

ok people this is simple question ..

i would have to say from my klowledge.

eli did fight chaovarit twice with 1 win each (current raja top ten)
or was at time of fight

preacher fought him also i think? plus also fought yodsaenklai in contender

damien myer i would say yes but maybe?

nugget i dont think so ..

jwp for sure has fought a few including yodsaenklai

marwin was not champ wen pixie fought him, but could have been ranked.

as for all the others mentioned
they did all fight thais , and yes some of them may have been ranked at some time .
but i doubt very much they were current stadium ranked fighters ..

i may be wrong and i am interested to hear everyones point of view on this..

[Hellfighter]

Hell, are there forum rules banning ppl from asking questions? I think you should read the thread on crap because it's applicable

applicable to the fact that all you do is post questions and when people post information you attempt to argue with them without any backup... that's where the crap comes into it

every name I have posted here has fought a Thai, whether they were ranked to me isn't important, it's the fact that they ALL battled with the Thais... some of them once or twice & others many, many times

[bigrocket]

boys boys boys....slow down and take a deep breath.

i thought the question is straight forward enough,and quite a good question at that!

how many times have you seen on fight posters that a world champion thai is fighting here in Australia,only to get KO'd by some fighter that hardly anyone has herd of.

anyway..Kurt fought a ranked thai back in 2005 for a world title and had a draw,then they rematched and the thai give Kurt a bit of a touch up.i think his name was "weerawat" something.

[samkor]

the thai pixie just fought in hong kong was raja and lumpini ranked, perhaps even no 1, at both stadiums. not sure of his name but will ask mr pease.. the thai pixie also just fought on war on the shore is also lumpini champ. charovit, the same thai eli fought.

the thai that ts2 fought on war on the shore, when he broke his wrist was also lumpini ranked i think.......

[Hellfighter]

Pixie's opponent in Hong Kong was Saiyoknoi and he is Lumpinee Champion

[whitetiger]

im with you hellfighter on this one, he asked for names of aussies who fought ranked thais and shot you down because your list was too long. shannon forrestor fought the thai from sityodtong, cant think of first name, plus a few other thais. tony hill, yu could nearly say what thai didnt he fight. He was fighting thais when no one else was game to. Paull briggs fought jomhod when jomhod was at his best. I dont wanrt to name anymore cause i might get shot down too.

[Hellfighter]

thanks mate, Yodeccha is the Thai that shattered Shannon and was then beaten by Kurt

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by samkor


the thai that ts2 fought on war on the shore, when he broke his wrist was also lumpini ranked i think.......


That's interesting. This is about the only Aussie to fight a Thai in the lower weight divisions (strongest divisions for Thais).

I'm not shooting anyone done, it's just a discussion. The reason I'm asking for names is because there is always talk about ppl fighting champs when they are ex-champs, posters with pictures etc.

[whitetiger]

nugget fought the thais weighing only bout 60 kg, ive fought two thais at 63 kg, they werent ranked but had 80-100 more fights then i did and that was enough. i dont think my wins against them are any lesser than the guys that fight the ranked thais. thats the name hell, i knew it was yod something. how bout jwp fighting yodsenklai, jwp vs buakaaw

[samkor]

hazard that is true, azzas weight division is a strong weight division over there in thai land. he has fought quite a few thais, but cant remember if they are ranked and names, maybe mark would know more....

the thai pixie fought in hong kong was an absolute weapon, was so aggresive and looked very strong.

yeah the thai that beat shannon forester did the best spinning elbow i have ever seen. was very very sweet..

cant remember his name but preacher fought that thai on evo for the world title, twice..

[Hellfighter]

Mungkorn was the Thai, samkor

[Dynamite Drew]

quote:Originally posted by Hellfighter
Mangan vs Sangtiennoi in my opinion was one of the most boring fights I have watched :-(


quote:Originally posted by Hellfighter

please don't thank me for doing your research... it's just lazy, but here is more work you don't have to do... none won, I think Mangan got a draw


marcus lost on points to sangtien

did you know this fight was voted fight of the night ?

i thought he did very well against sangtien , seeing it was his first fight with elbows

but then again,
i maybe biased as i was his training partner

[Hellfighter]

was there even an elbow thrown?

I expected an absolute war and was sadly disappointed... will have another watch when I get home tonight and post my unprofessional opinion

[Dynamite Drew]

if i remember correctly, i think marcus threw the 1st elbow

i do remember seeing marcus` legs after the fight , they copped a caning off sangtien, huge purple welts on his thighs


well i did admit i am biased [:p]

[Dynamite Drew]

marcus fought a few other thais as well

KO win over Sanapar Noi in sydney
1st round KO win over Jombing in sydney and a close points loss in rematch in NZ
Points win over Lansi-am Sangmorakot in perth
Loss against Kongnapa in USA (broken forearm)

[Hellfighter]

Kongnapa broke my friends arm also... maniac

I have the fight of Marcus v Saniparnoi on VHS in Australia... didn't Saniparnoi cry after his KO?

[Dynamite Drew]

i know sanapar was devastated after the KO, dont know if he cried or not

[bigrocket]

his name was mungkorn i think.

[scottya]

So the Question is "which OZZY fighter has fought a rank thai at the time of there fight that the thai was holding a top ten ranking with in thailand" ?

[Hellfighter]

no, within Bangkok, scottya... geez boy, don't you read?

[Voice]

rungchai and Aaron TS2 Leigh had some of the best rivalry fights over the years. To my memory it was 2-2 (accuracy check anyone?). As Scotty said, Rungchai was a sth Thai champ and I'd say a top B-level fighter who had great hands. Lots of testosterone on this thread, don't beat me up guys...

[imported_n/a]

Memories - Mangan over Sanaparnoi in Sydney, damn I loved that fight, head kick KO if I remember correctly. And I agree regarding Pixies opponent in Hong Kong - god damn he looked strong, unfortunately Pixie didnt get a chance to warm up in the fight with a quick tko (elbow?).

[Hellfighter]

yeah heavy, cut due to elbow from Saiyoknoi

Voice, Rung would bash half the "A-level" fighters I seen over here... and the score is 2 -1 in favour of Rung: TS2 won by KO in fight 1, Rung won by KO in fight 2 and Rung won by cutting up TS2 like a steak in fight 3

[imported_n/a]

Hellfighter,

What is your problem? If you do not like the topic then dont respond. There is obviously something personal between you and Hazard - to the point where you are stalking his topics.

This is a forum that allows free speech - if you don't care for the question then dont answer it and let others!

[alchrist]

Just thought i'd add a little of what (i think) i know.
Steve Rosten was actually the first Aussie to beat a top ranked Thai in Australia,Rungchart (Mark Pease confirm?) at Carrara stadium.
On the same night my mate who was coming off a win against Mark T.S1 fought his first thai Sondat Sor Presod and on his way down from copping a heavy leg kick was kicked in the head and K.O'd cold.
(He knows who he is [B)]) This show was early 90's
Hellfighter, a name your missing on your list is Timur Dahl, pretty sure he fought some A-List Thai's back in the day.
Also which Thai/s did Rick Curnow fight ?
And Amir Shafipour...don't think he was an Aussie bro.
And lastly some of the Thai's Tony Hill fighted;
Pistlex, sittisak, patthai, wicharn, krongsak, nokweed and possibly more. Not sure if these guys were ranked at the time though.

thnx al.

[Hellfighter]

sorry everyone, I'll bow out now :-(

[alchrist]

Merely pointing something out and asking you a question HF nothing else.

thnx al.

[dekker]

There have been many Aussies who have fought top Thai's some ranked and others not, but they all have paved the way for our current crop of top fighters, who now fight and beat ranked Thai's on a more regular basis!

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by dekker

There have been many Aussies who have fought top Thai's some ranked and others not, but they all have paved the way for our current crop of top fighters, who now fight and beat ranked Thai's on a more regular basis!


Actually, I'm not so sure of this. When was the last time an Aussie beat a ranked Thai? My guess is it was Chaovalit.

The thread has revealed some interesting info, unfortunately in the cases of older fighters it's not clear if the Thais were ranked.

The reason I was specific about finding fighters ranked at the time is because IMO it gives the best idea as to who our the best Aussies are. Many ex-champs or once-ranked Thais are training very little and fighting at much higher weights than at their peak.

Compare this to the ranked Thais, most of who fight monthly in very evenly matched contests - Thais won't pay to see a mismatch 'cause there's nothing to gamble on.

If a Thai looses in the stadiums they're in trouble with gym owners and gamblers who have lost money.

Therefore I think the greatest challenge for a foreigner is beating a Thai in their homeland. Ramon Dekker did this several times, which is why many feel his the best ever (outside Thailand).

JWP is the only Aussie I can think of who has beaten a ranked Thai in Thailand, so it's fair enough that he's considered our best.

However it should be noted that the task is much harder for the lighter weights, which is where all the best Thais are.

[Hellfighter]

can't help myself... Hazard, please be gentle while you kiss my arse:

from the mouth of Mark 'The Hammer' Castagnini RE: Marcus Mangan vs Sangtiennoi Sor Rungroj on the Australia vs Thailand card in Melbourne @ the Crown Casino:

"Sangtiennoi the champion of the famed Lumpinee Stadium in Thailand, which is the MECCA of thai boxing in the world and this man here, this Thai, is the Champion of that Stadium so, he is a premier MuayThai kickboxer, Sangtiennoi"

and this time from the mouths of Michael 'The Voice" Schivello and Mark "The Hammer" Castagnini RE: Chris 'The Manchester Machine" Allen vs Nuengtrakhan Por MuangUbon... even though Chris was English, it is stated that he "called" Australia home and not just on the phone *thanks Peter Allen*:

Schivello - "Nuengtrakhan only 21yrs old, one of the real up&coming stars of the Muay Thai scene in Bangkok"

Hammer - "he is No.1 rated, Michael, so he's the best of their art, none-champion up&comers"

now with your extensive knowledge, you should have known that Soliman FOUGHT Sakmongkol and that there was a chance that (many peoples favourite promoter) Tarik Solak wouldn't have brought over "past their prime" fighters from Thailand

my 2baht 25trabangs worth :-P

PS - I have not intentionally gone to this DVD to prove (everyones favourite member) Hazard wrong... actually I re-watched Marcus Mangan's fight so I could again say "sorry Drew, it was a boring fight in my eyes... but what would I know :-P"

[Q]

So some of the thais who have fought against aussies have been ranked in Bangkok and some others haven't I think its the performance of the fighter which needs to be looked at.
I watched a show in Koh Samui in June and I would put my money on several of the fighters on that night against their ranked counterparts in Bangkok every day of the week. I also think they would give our fighters some real problems so whether they are ranked or not........
On Saturday night i was talking to Tony Hill and remembering his fights I watched a youngster, I cant remember if any of the Thais were ranked or not but there was some real wars, same as Nuggets fights I was young then but I am sure his fights were not walks in the park, were his opponents ranked I dont know doesn't really matter.

I think there has though been enough examples to say that many aussies have fought highly ranked Thai oppoenents

[alchrist]

So Hellfighter, please, sir, as this is the internet, how about answering MY simple question.
Which Thai/s did Rick Curnow fight ?
Not starting an argument, just asking.[?]

thnx al.

[Hazard]

This thread is for all of us to share our knowledge and gain, there's no prizes for who knows more. Hell, thanks for the contribution, it's appreciated.

Regarding the comments that Samui fighters would beat their ranked Bangkok counterparts, it's an interesting opinion, paydays and prestige are much higher in Bangkok. Basically it's the same as saying a country footballer is much better than someone in the AFL.

[Hellfighter]

al, I emailed you... obviously you didn't get it

maybe Rick didn't fight any thais in Australia, I was just rolling out old names that used to fight on the Thai fight nights in Mackay and Rick was one of them... I'm pretty sure he fought a few Thais while in Thailand, because it was in the magazines

[alchrist]

Nah m8 i didn't receive an email but thanks for your reply.

thnx al.

[Q]

My point was more that just because a fighter isn't ranked in Bangkok doesn't mean they are a bum, who knows the polictics involved a fighter moving from the samll towns to the city and with regard to your comment on AFL players I would bet my last dollar there are stacks of players out there in the country who would wipe the floor with the current list of AFL players.

[Hazard]

Journo, I understand what you mean. Not being ranked doesn't mean you're a bum by any means and I'm not saying Aussies that haven't fought ranked Thais are no good either.

It's just interesting to see the list and I hope in the future we can see more Aussies fighting ranked Thais and hopefully more top level Thais visiting our shores.

[jarhead]

is there any aussies who have held a ranking at lumpine or raja

[samkor]

yeah good question. even foreigners that have been ranked there would be interesting.

[scottya]

JWP was ranked 4th or 5th at lumpine & was ment to fight for the number 1 spot but had to come back home due to his visa about to run out

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by samkor

yeah good question. even foreigners that have been ranked there would be interesting.


JWP may have been once ranked. Skabowski was, as were Dekker and Danny Bille (I think). I think there are some at present such as Philip Keawsamrit, Cosmo who fought JWP. The full rankings are available at www.muaythaifocus.com

[gvmartialarts]

What kind of purse would the top stadium ranked Thai's be asking for? Are they under contract to the particular stadium, i.e only fighting where and when the oromoter says?

[scottya]

Wouldnt matter there trainner & there camp would be getting more then the fighter

[Hazard]

It depends on the fighter and there popularity. The really big names are getting over B100,000, although I think most would be getting 40K + , don't forget half goes to the gym.

[gvmartialarts]

Not bad. But are they contracted to the stadium? Do the only chance foreigners have these days is going over and fighting them at the stadium?

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by Sor.NakSooMuayThai

Not bad. But are they contracted to the stadium? Do the only chance foreigners have these days is going over and fighting them at the stadium?


I think if the right money is offered then agreements can be reached and they'd be free to travel.

There's two reasons we don't see them:
1) They're too expensive.
2) They're too good - paying someone a lot of money and then seeing them make the local boy look average isn't good business sense. Even in Holland on the Slamm promotions they're fighting at bigger weights and there's always complaints about 'funny' decisions.

[gvmartialarts]

So the fighters that do/did get to compete against ranked Thais at the right weight and top of their game are either lucky, or cannon fodder for the Thai?

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by Sor.NakSooMuayThai

So the fighters that do/did get to compete against ranked Thais at the right weight and top of their game are either lucky, or cannon fodder for the Thai?


Worldwide there's probably a few who could compete, once again it's a question of money. There's not much paid in Thailand these days, unlike when Dekker and Co. were fighting.

[gvmartialarts]

So the reason we are not fighting top-level Thais is because of money? If I was a top-level Australia fighter, earning a purse of up to 10K, I would take a pay cut to fight a top level Thai just for the experience. Isn't this what Soren is doing at the mo?

[Hazard]

quote:Originally posted by Sor.NakSooMuayThai

So the reason we are not fighting top-level Thais is because of money? If I was a top-level Australia fighter, earning a purse of up to 10K, I would take a pay cut to fight a top level Thai just for the experience. Isn't this what Soren is doing at the mo?


I think most professional would chase the money. This makes sense, it's a hard and dangerous job, so you may as well be paid well.

I'm sure there'd be plenty willing to fight top level Thais, most will fight whoever is in front of them. It's up to the promoters to fork out the cash.

[Heeta]

paul slowinski had a few with the legendary Nokweed Davy i reakon. (excuse the spelling if its wrong) from what im told paul won both. not sure if Nokweed was ranked at the time tho

[Hellfighter]

where were they, Heeta?

[DazMon]

HF what is a 'WMM Insider'?

[Hellfighter]

apparently, I was to be going to be giving them scoops from around Bangkok... after our last conversation, I don't think I'll be too welcome anymore

:-( there goes my career hopes :-(

[SPADA]

slightly off topic ...

Non - thai stadium champions ??

Kozo ( Japan ) Raja champ

Ivan Hippolyte ( Dutch )Lumpinee champ

anyone know of more ???

.................................................. ..........

Paul Briggs vs Jomhod

JWP vs Yodsanklai

Pixie vs thai ( sorry can't think of his name )

Preacher vs Lamsongkran

I think these are the only guys to have fought CURRENT stadium champs.

sakmongkol,changpuek,Nokweed Davy ect ect have held stadium titles... but not when they fought the Aussies.

Good topic Hazard

cheers Spada

[DazMon]

Yeah so what does WMM stand for Hell?
And how did this <final> conversation go?

[Hellfighter]

why do you care?

if you know about the "Insider" crap then you know what it means... do you think I'm a "Secret Squirrel Spy" or something cool like that?

I'm not, I'd never blend in anywhere over here... geez, I stand out in Khao San Road and that's mostly foreigners!!!

[Hellfighter]

SPADA, Ivan Hippolyte was the WMC World Champion, he won this title at Lumpinee, he didn't win the Lumpinee Title

Mourad Sari won a Lumpinee Title

JeanCharles Skarbowsky fought in Thailand for approx. 10 years, but was never given a Professional Fighters Card, otherwise he would of had a shot at a Lumpinee Title

[Aaden]

Fujiwara

[kingwaa]

shaggy fought omsim. this was shaggy's one and only loss.
jwp also fought him and lost
not sure on his ranking tho

[Hellfighter]

JWP fought Oomsin twice... 1 win 1 loss

yeah, Fujiwara helped fuel the fight war between the Japanese and the Thais... they celebrated with a big fight night last year at Rajadamnern

[DazMon]

Hey Hell I care coz I still dont know what WMM stands for?
I care coz I was looking forward to your reports, isn't that going to happen anymore?
I don't think I know about any insider crap, or do I?

[Hellfighter]

gee, can anyone else smell the sarcasm?

WMM is the opposition to this magazine... now, do I get banned or something?

[DazMon]

Umm there's no sarcasm, but I think I just realised what it stands for.
I thought it was some alteration to 'WMC' or something?
I think you're mistaking me for someone who knows 'stuff' about 'stuff'???

[Dynamite Drew]

quote:Originally posted by Hellfighter
PS - I have not intentionally gone to this DVD to prove (everyones favourite member) Hazard wrong... actually I re-watched Marcus Mangan's fight so I could again say "sorry Drew, it was a boring fight in my eyes... but what would I know :-P"


hellfighter , if ya saw it as a boring fight , so be it

its your opinion and your entitled to it

i dont have the english version , i have the thai tv version on video

[Hellfighter]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

I think you're mistaking me for someone who knows 'stuff' about 'stuff'???


well, you had to read this or hear it from somewhere in order to enquire about it, so I think you do know some "stuff" about some "stuff" :D

[DazMon]

So are you gunna do reports?