Greg Foley VS Mike Zambidis

[da GhOsT]

just watched the rising stars promotion and foley issued a challenge to zambidis<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> what do you guys think, you reackon foley can cut is with zambidis??? your thought please

[admin]

I really don't understand this challenge. Greg is a great guy and an awesome fighter to watch, but he is nowhere near Zambidis' league. First, Greg is still an amateur and he is challenging the best pro in his weight division atm. Second, who has Greg fought that could possibly compare to Zambidis? Greg hasn't fought anyone the calibre of a Nezif or a Behic or a Parr or a Kraus.
Given another 18 months, turning pro and fighting some big names then MAYBE just maybe Greg might be ready for a stab at Mike, but at the moment Greg had best focus on turning professional, fighting his way up the pro division, then taking on someone like Zambidis. However it looks like we could see this fight in Sydney next year... premature I say. You can't possibly compare competition like Ashleigh White and Michael Neiland to Mike Zambidis - they're not in the same league.
Oh well, good luck to Greg, he is one of my fave guys in NSW and his trainer, Amir, is a gentleman who I have the fullest respect for. But they are biting off more than they can chew challenging Mike at this stage. Mike is a mile up and above most everyone in kickboxing at the moment.
JMHO.

Michael Schiavello
- Editor -
International Kickboxer
Fox Sports
SKY TV NZ

[sethridge]

I agree.. foleys good but he must be drugs thinking he has a chance against zam he wouldnt last 1 round.. he doesnt have a chance against any big name fighters like chopper,dawson,behic,jwp,cope,pixie,soren,elson,rh ino let alone zam and prince amir telling zam to fight a real fighter, arent JWP,behic,cope,ozkan real fighters?? id like to see foley Vs Themlarkis thats more his leauge..

[Koshy]

I think one of the main problems with this fight is the fact that Greg does get hit during his fights. If you have a look back on the last few fights of Greg's he seems to get tagged alot because of his upright back and forward fighting style. Lets see, he got dropped by Tai, and White, to add to this he has huge problems against fighters who are not going backwards. I can assure you that Zambidies does not fear any of Gregs arsenal. Good luck Greg you are going to need it.

Just on a side note didn't foley pull out against a well noted Thai (- in the last six months-) fighter because he felt he wasn't ready to fight a guy of this calibre. Does anyone know the name of this fighter.

[BULLET]

Koshy,

The fighter foley was going to fight from thailand was Yoddacha from Thailand. Would have been awesome to watch.

Another one that never happened was Josh Bromley v Foley. Another ducking attempt from Foley. Josh has since retired from the sport.

[Koshy]

Bromley would have wiped Foley in his weight division. I trained with a guy who fought Bromley and he said he was just awesome.

[BULLET]

who was that guy?? he demolished everyone he fought.

[Koshy]

A real good guy named Shaun Bullock. He was a natural and could have done well but he couldn't stay dedicated. I think he trained for two weeks for that fight against Bromley.

[BULLET]

what a mistake that was. i trained with bormley for 6 years before he retired, and he was the best. he would have played with foley before utterly destroying any chance of his in the pro ranks.

[Koshy]

Its funny we got onto the subject of Bromley, I was going to start a post about him and how he could still come back. Unfortunetly I was only just into the sport when Bromley was at his peak so I didn't get to see much of him. I read heaps about him from IK. Was it his hands that made him retire or was it the money?

[BULLET]

it wasn't his hands or money. nothing to do with it. it was all politics and i think he just pulled the plug a little too early. he could have used it all to fual some serious fights against the best.

[BULLET]

and trust me there is NO CHANCE of a comeback. i still speak to him and the chance has been blown.

[Koshy]

You cant leave that hanging there. What was behind it all?

[shacols]

dont dare to dream greg.is it bad to have a goal.
so what if he withdrew from a fight.he was honest about his reasons.
i didnt here him challenge mike next month or in 6 months,other people were talking about time frames.he admitted he needs more time and experience,all he did was mention that hed like an opportunity.
good luck to him,lets see who he fights next,and next.

[BULLET]

politics mate, tarik cant be trusted, and the only place to get somewhere in our s.hitty little kickboxing world in oz is through him - an untrustworthy gangster.

he deserved the world and couldnt get it. Thanks to the Pitbull, he did have great fights, and they were nothing short of quality.

[Koshy]

"dont dare to dream greg.is it bad to have a goal"
We all have goals but not all of us say them to a TV audience. I think Greg is great and I love to watch him but if you are going to say something like that you have got to expect people to make a comment on it. Dont be to sensitive, Greg chose to make the comment.

[BULLET]

well he definetely is biting more than he can chew. dude i gotta go, they should have a chat thing in here. take it easy brother. NATURE CALLS... LOL



PEACE!
BULLET

[shacols]

yeah,maybe i was too sensitive,although i reckon hes got balls
to make a statement like that on tv.maybe its some sort of incentive
to push himself like never before.
its just that i often see everyone saying "lets all get together and do our bit and make this sport grow" and then there doesnt seem to be that much unity at all.dont get me wrong,there is unity,but sometimes the unity seems to disappear into the fog of someones comments or actions.

[da GhOsT]

my thoughts on this fight is, i think prince amir is trying to pressure greg on fighting zambidis coz he couldnt get a chance. if tarik is the countries best promoter he would go out of his way and put the zambidis Vs prince fight on, as well as the jacobs Vs ozkan rematch<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

[ThaiBoxer]

well, it does make a lot of sense doesnt it? Foley challenges Zambidis?
It sounds like a joke! But wait a second. Who trains Greg? Oh thats right, Prince Amir. The same Amir who issued many challenges to Mike but never actually had what it takes to step up and face him so now he uses his boys to fight Mike. Its a shame because even if Greg faces Mike, he will get hurt, badly. Even though there is no way Mike will fight him. He has more important things to do than fighting just about any amateur that wants to become famous.
If Amir wants Mike to fight real fighters, then HE should get in the ring with ZAM. Maybe for him the names of Behic, Parr, Nezif, Kraus and Gurkan dont mean anything. Thats showin how much of a wuss Amir is.
Hey Amir, get out of ur shell and fight Mike instead of using young upcoming fighters, but not ready to fight Mike. If u dont, then shut ur mouth and let it go. Ur history, Mike is the future.

[Farmboy]

Thaiboxer there's no need for personal attacks and insults against the prince. You seem to have some sort of personal vendetta against him. Did you fight him a few years ago and get flogged or something. Isn't he retired anyway. Maybe you should let it go.

[The Rhino]

Hi Mike

Mate...Zambidis has fought some good guys and at the moment they are all probably is out of the league of Greg but I reckon Greg would kill Kraus. Kraus had absolutely no offence and got KO'd bad...I was surprised it hadn't happened sooner.

and Thaiboxer, I don't think that you are fair in your comments about Amir...the guys done the hard yards - he doesn't have to prove a think and I'm sure he wouldn't risk the health of his protege at the expense of putting him against Zambidis before he is ready.

[JANER]

As much as I like Prince Amir more than Zambidis. We all know who would win... If they did fight it would be more heart aching to watch than the no respect fight.

So please, AMir dont jump in front of that little mack truck! Your smarter than that!

---------------------------------------------
"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[shacols]

janer and thai boxer must be taliking about a different amir.

thai boxer, how can you say that he never had what it takes.that crap and you know it.

[shacols]

janer and thai boxer must be taliking about a different amir.

thai boxer, how can you say that he never had what it takes.that crap and you know it.

[shacols]

i agree rhino,you can your ass theyll be training foleys ass off.
if he didnt think that foley could get there,i dont think anything would have been said

[Servant]

Well Janer seems to have hit the button for once! Zambides vs Amir would be a farce and a POINTLESS beat down like the Gurkan vs Stan spectacle. Regardless of how many people think Amir can beat him, Zam is here and now while Amir was then and before, just like No Respect. As for Foley vs Zambides...oh dear.

[shacols]

yeah,i agree with the things as they are at the moment,but to say that when amir was fighting and challenging zam,to say that he didnt have what it takes to fight zam ?????????

as far as foley and zam,id prefer this fight happen ,in the future,that what im saying.

[Wrecka]

Hey Foley, you want a good match?
Greg Foley V's Shannon F-16 Forrester
I hold pads for "the Bomber" at BOONCHU and he is dead keen to get in the ring with Foley,I've already spoken to JNI Promotions and the wheels are in motion, so if anyone in Sydney area is keen to see F-16 fight in sydney please do what you can to let JNI promtions know that it's one you want to see.
Wrecka

[Wrecka]

Hey Foley, you want a good match?
Greg Foley V's Shannon F-16 Forrester
I hold pads for "the Bomber" at BOONCHU and he is dead keen to get in the ring with Foley,I've already spoken to JNI Promotions and the wheels are in motion, so if anyone in Sydney area is keen to see F-16 fight in sydney please do what you can to let JNI promtions know that it's one you want to see.
Wrecka

[krama]

Following on wrecka's comment about Foley v Forrester
this would be a good indicator of Foley's abilities
Zam destroyed Forrester with ease a while back
Foley needs two years min to even consider Zam - Foley has not fought anyone who punches like Zam so he is probably thinking it would be a great challenge -
as for The Prince v Zam - as I stated previously, Zam would convincingly beat him - Prince couldn't put away Behic when they fought not that long ago - we all know what Zam did to Behic - and I believe Zam deliberatly held back during their second encounter probably out of respect
Prince - the guy is a great fighter, a legend, he has done the yards, has given us great moments but please Prince - give it up against Zam - as Janer stated, it would be Ozkan v Stan Part 2 -

[sethridge]

or foley vS Finnlayson,soren,pixie,redden, IN QLD with knees no elbows... he would get chopped.. and i know foleys not a thaiboxer but why does he jump over the top rope and wear the thai charm on his arm and he even holds his gaurd like a thai fighter so he prob trains with knees.. he should try and fight these boyz if he wants to improve cuz there the best in weight in aust right now...

[admin]

Thai Boxer - that's a very ill-informed position to take and Amir is a true GREAT of the sport and one of the sport's FEW genuine gentlemen. Give him the respect he deserves.

Michael Schiavello
- Editor -
INTERNATIONAL KICKBOXER
FOX SPORTS
SKY TV NZ

[Shane]

Yes but i dont think foley wants too fight with knees. i heard today that the prince has pulled foley out of jni's next promotion cause it is all thai rules..... no elbows though. so i dont think foley would fight any of the awsum qld guys you mentioned cause he doesnt want knee fights. But im not sure if that was foleys decision or his trainer prince amir.

[Glenn]

I thought the Amir who trained Foley was a different Amir?

[SPADA]

Greg Foley is not a bad amature fighter...but to take on likes of Pixie,Soren,Rex...ect would be a joke.If he is looking at taking on Zambidis then he should use these guys as "lead up fights".K1 rules look as they are here to stay for awhile...so he has to use his knees at some stage.

[paul c]

Very true Spada,

I'd make that suggestion to anyone looking to make the more serious money that the top guys are getting. I think K1 rules is the absolute future direction for money growth in the sport and all guys close to elite level should be getting their experience now I reckon. Not everyone will handle the fighting with knees transition as well as Zambidis has.

[shacols]

i tink that zam hasnt done to much with knees,from what ive seen.
i think that transition should be alot easier then what ive seen from zam,but at the same time i havnt seen him fight that much, and he has gone far in fights with k1 rules.so i guess i dont know what im talking about.lol/

i definately think that k1 is forging ahead and it would definately makes sense to train to fight k1 rules if only for the profesionals wanting the big money.

[paul c]

Shacols,

The first knee fight I saw Zam in, he copped that cut and stoppage from Cope.

I still think he's had a great transition. I know this sounds stupid since Mike only throws the token knee every know and then, but it's still an outstanding transition in that he can get in there and take the knees with relative safety. Well, so far at least.

[shacols]

Paul

yeah when you think of it that way i would have to agree,because he has gone against some of the dangerous knees in the business and still made it through.except for maybe cope.but to take on cope in your first knee fight takes some courage, and then still to continue to take on the rest of them,when he could of just fought straight k/b,
is something that keeps me interested in watching his fights.

[ThaiBoxer]

First of all, Krama, Zambidis did not hold back out of respect for Amir. Mike has told me a lot of times that he has always been ready.
Now, maybe i was a bit aggressive towards Amir. I respect what he has done for the sport but guys he shouldnt be challenging Zambidis. He needs to let it go. Even in the new issue he challenges him! Is it unfair to say that he doesnt have what it takes? I dont think so.
As far as Foley is concerned, he needs to earn his shot at Zambidis. He needs to get in the ring with a Wayne Parr, a Jenk Behic or even a Shannon Forrester before he decides that hes ready for Zam. Oh and someone in here said that Foley would destroy Kraus just because Zam koed Kraus in the second round? That is not even worth my time to comment on it. Putting Foley in the same league with Zam and Kraus shows how little u know about the sport.
Back to main topic, I cant wait for Zam vs Gurkan. Mike is training hard for the K1 guys and be ready to see a more focused and explosive Zambidis. The K1 is not for amatuers, its where the best meet.

[shacols]

im not saying that if prince made a comeback that he would have what it takes,you never know,but thats not what im saying.i must have misunderstood your comments,i think it was yours,that said somethiong like,amir,previouslywhilst still fighting,had challenged zam but NEVER had what it takes to actually fight him.not excatly in those words,but that was my understanding anyway.but ive been wrong with my interpretations before.

as with foley,i agree with you, he needs to step up and take on these guys.i just dont think that he should be thought of as a fighter who cannot get to that level.thats all.and i think that will be the direction that amir will head towards in regards to future fights and training.

[paul c]

Thaiboxer,

I pretty much believe that Mike is untouchable at the moment in the 70-72 division.

But, I absolutely disagree that Amir hasn't got what it takes to give us the fans a spectacular contest. Again, I'll bring up Amir's fight with Behic, which I thought was dead even. I honestly can't think of a single person but Parr that has a chance with Zam. But Amir does come as a fighter I think of that would entertain us immensely in a fight against Mike.

Personally, I'd much prefer to see Amir re-match Jenk.
That would be a friggen war.

[shacols]

what about parr v zam and amir v jenk.holey ****,id hop on a
bus to anywhere to see that.no matter what state it was in,the fans
would turn up in droves.
now that a fox event that no one could complain about.

[paul c]

Yeah that would be a good one.

If I ever win Lotto, I'll put it on.

With Ozkan V Tibor re-match as main event.

[remy]

I hope the k-1 U78 is still in Tarik's plans perhaps for next year. Ozkan, Ambrose, Jacobs, Hallford etc

[remy]

and throw Tibor in there if he is back by then.

[shacols]

mr vermes,yeah cool
i love it when people remind me of fighters that are out of my head,always makes me smile dont know why,just does.

[SDM]

I know it's probably a matter of just going on & on about it now but i think what's really gone wrong here is the pedistool Michael Zambidis has been elevated to. I know he is good, very very good, awesome even, but personally i believe he struggled with knees against JWP, Zambidis is beatable (not by Greg Foley though!!!)Least we'll see Gurkan vs Zambidis!

Obviously Greg Foley is not yet in the class of guys like JWP, Jenk, Chopper to name a few. You know, i'd LOVE to see him try & take on say, Aleksi Perkachyk, he clearly beat Baris, he gave Chopper a run for his money (but only over 3 rounds) there's a decent build-up fight for Foley, where is Aleksi anyway?

[krama]

Zambidis is human - therefore he feels and bleeds like everyone else (think back to the fight with Cope) - so he is beatable - no question, he will eventually be dethroned and we will have another great fighter to aspire to - we hope!
under full Mui Thai - JWP will comfortably handle him
under KB or K1 its a different story - I mean the guy is bloody short!
he can stil leap like ;leaping Lenny Puffo' from the original wrestling days though

[paul c]

I have Parr and Zam on equal pedestals.

Two very different fighters though.

[mehmet]

zambo would destroy him thats just a joke that fight