POWERPLAY PROMOTIONS presents... "ROUND 6"

[Nader]

POWERPLAY PROMOTIONS IS PROUD TO PRESENT "ROUND 6"

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TO BE HELD AT AT A NEW VENUE..

JUNE 1ST
MOONEE VALLEY RACECOURSE
Gate 1. Entry via McPherson St
Doors Open 6pm
Show Starts 7:30pm Sharp
Tickets Via Powerplay Gym - 66 Holmes St, East Brunswick
(03) 9386 7797
0409 222 233
GENERALS $45
SEATED $65
TABLES OF 10 PEOPLE $1200- $1500 WITH FOOD
Line Up....

Joel Fischer Vs Brodie Smith - FTR

Vasilis Kakarikos Vs Ben Counsel - K1
(GREECE CHAMPION)

Mike Dimitriou Vs THIERRY VIRAPOL HE HAS HAD 40 PRO FIGHTS (FRENCH)

Jarred Grigor Vs Aaron Cheney - FTR

Sarah Howett Vs Lisa Maulau N.Z- Mod Thai

Koung Tran Vs Nick Raptis - KB

Marc Lucente Vs Rahulla Paykari - K1

Tass Tsitsiras Vs TBA

Nicole Brolan Vs Rebecca Knox N.Z(Mod Thai)

Marc Gelsi Vs TBA

Ester Condos vs Kym Ross- KB

[babyface]

good luck on the show joe should be another great one and good luck to all the boys and girls from powerplay

[brave]

Awesome ill be there. The miller crew are always entertaining.

[dnt_look_bak]

looks like another great card Jo i hope i can make it to this 1

[ChrisQ]

Quality lineup... fastly becoming the top show in Victoria with cards like that.

Mark Vs Rahulla should be a great rematch.
Oneil Vs Jake will be fight of the night IMO.

[Zambo Rambo]

That's Gold! ;)

[Bushi]

Awesome looking card already Joe.

And an interesting but well thought out venue....will be keen to see which section you hold it in, but well done...

[DazMon]

Has Strike Force got anyone to face Michael Dimitriou?

[jabout]

I did get a phone call about Scerri v Mike he is sweet to go.

[ASSASSIN]

pwooah, can't wait for this.

[P-DYNAMO]

Joel vs Brodie..What an awsome match up..
Good work Joe,all the best with the show.

[DazMon]

Samkor

[samkor]

yes..

[DazMon]

Semi-main event!

[samkor]

yeah should be good.. i watched some of his fights on youtube last night.. will be a different style of fighting that i am used to, moved in and out a lot and looked like he has a huge right hand.. greece champ as well, so should be a great challenge for me. i have not fought k1 rules before, so something different...
be good just for the trip down to melbourne as i have only been down there once before

[John Cav]

What a great line up, and best of all on a Sunday night!
I'll be there for sure.

I think Moonee Valley is a great venue. Easy parking, and they have a huge function room. I have worked there before and it seats 800 people for a dinner function if they open the whole room up.
Well done Joe!

[ASSASSIN]

here is the Greek Muay Thai fighter.

He is versing a Turk:

I won't spoil the results for people [:p]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWBCzYASwc8

can't wait to see him.

[Nader]

Hi all thank you for your support and kind words,its turning out to be another great card and will continue to do so. As for the Greece Champion it will be good to have a international fighter in Melb and im happy to put it on ive seen this boy fight and he very explosive and they say he is the next (ZAMBO).to all you supporters get down and support us as we have moved to a bigger venue which holds about 2000 people approx. so your support is appreciated. as for Mike 300 ive tried to match this boy but there is no takers in victoria. the boy is getting better and stronger every day.I can go on but i will leave it at that for now. keep them coming.

[ChrisQ]

How about Jarod Grigor Vs 300?

Two of the best middleweights in the state...

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by Nader

Hi all thank you for your support and kind words,its turning out to be another great card and will continue to do so. As for the Greece Champion it will be good to have a international fighter in Melb and im happy to put it on ive seen this boy fight and he very explosive and they say he is the next (ZAMBO).to all you supporters get down and support us as we have moved to a bigger venue which holds about 2000 people approx. so your support is appreciated. as for Mike 300 ive tried to match this boy but there is no takers in victoria. the boy is getting better and stronger every day.I can go on but i will leave it at that for now. keep them coming.

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by Nader

Hi all thank you for your support and kind words,its turning out to be another great card and will continue to do so. As for the Greece Champion it will be good to have a international fighter in Melb and im happy to put it on ive seen this boy fight and he very explosive and they say he is the next (ZAMBO).to all you supporters get down and support us as we have moved to a bigger venue which holds about 2000 people approx. so your support is appreciated. as for Mike 300 ive tried to match this boy but there is no takers in victoria. the boy is getting better and stronger every day.I can go on but i will leave it at that for now. keep them coming.



So Michael won't be fighting?

Also what weight division is Vasilis?

[Bushi]

Chill out Assassin lol, the show's 6 weeks away, and Micheal WILL be fighting..

[gvmartialarts]

Doesn't Daniel Smyrk fight at about 69kg? Sean Dunleavy is middleweight too isn't he?

[Bushi]

quote:Originally posted by kikboxa

quote:Originally posted by jabout

I did get a phone call about Scerri v Mike he is sweet to go.

Is that Scerri v Mike 300?


The question was asked, and it's a BIG ask.. time will tell

[DazMon]

I already said that!

quote: Bring down a QLD'er Joe anyone from Ben Counsel prepared to take on the spartan???

[samkor]

i am fighting the guy from greece..

[DazMon]

Hey Joe can you get Shenelle a match on your show!?

[Bushi]

quote:Originally posted by kikboxa

Fark sorry Dazmon & ZDK I don't get your post, where was the question asked & how is it a big ask


Can't divulge my sources KB, but Jason Lappin has also confirmed yes the fight was put to him.

A big ask, meaning Jason Scerri would be a good and big step up IMHO... Jason is EXPLOSIVE, but I also LOVE watching 300...

Here's hoping we get to see it..

Oh and don't EVER ask a question Dazmon has already asked... he gets touchy..:D

[DazMon]

Okay, here goes, you mentioned bringing down a QLD fighter for Michael, I already suggested that. You mentioned Ben Counsel and he is listed here as fighting the semi main event, I asked if a third fighter could be sourced from the Strike Force gym, are you following? I am all for interstate fighters for '300', it would be a shame for him to miss out. Too bad noone local wants to step up, if thats the case.

[DazMon]

Yeah I get touchy! Heh heh...

[brave]

Im sure they will find someone for 300!

Any cambodians still in melb? or are they too light?

[XYGT351]

Good Luck Samkor.
Haven't seen you fight yet so I'm looking forward to it.
Seeing that you've calmed down quite a bit in here lately means you've gotten alot of respect.
Being a fighter yourself, I've never heard you bag another fighter which is great - unlike others !!
Should be a great experience for ya as the boy hailed "the next Zambo" ain't no push-over.

[samkor]

thanks XYGT351 that actually means a lot. yeah i have watched some of his videos on youtube, very explosive and very fast hands.. should be a good fight i think. have not fought k1 rules before so will be something different..

[brave]

Goodluck samkor, are you kickboxer or mt fighter?

k1 rules...com on get the greek boy to play with some elbows. The crowd will be double pumped! Crowds go crazy everytime theres the mention of elbows!

[DazMon]

Samkor is from QLD and as a result they do not have many kickboxers up there.
If you had Foxtel you might have seen him on a few shows.

And changing the rules to Full Thai is a big step for K1 fighters, its not just like adding a weapon, they could get into all sorts of trouble with the grapple and dumps etc which require preparation. I think there should be enough elbows on that PP show, just need to get '300' on there for sure.

[Rickstar]

What weight does Tass fight at? I thought that he fought around 69-70 kg's but if he is fighting Jake then he must be fighting heavier. I fought Jake at 75-76 a few weeks ago and i am sure we could both probably cut 2-3kgs but i doubt 5kgs. Is Tass heavier than i thought or are they meeting somewhere in the middle?

[J A]

Dazmon,
We do have a few boys around the 68-70 kilo mark, Samkor being one of them, its just a matter of availability!
Mark doesn't like to over committ the boys!
I am spewing to as I was all booked to come down for this show with Brodie but the date got moved a couple of times and was too much hassle to change my flights!
Looks like it will be a good night though!

[samkor]

cheers brave,thanks mate...

[Nader]

hey Assassin vasilis is 70kg.and mike will be matched,we asked about jarred but it not to be.so jarred has been matched with Aaron.maybe next show.but mike has put out a challenge to anyone with up to 15 fights.ive asked the sityotong camp to fight some of don millars boys but the fights were not taken. hi rick star jake will come in at 73kg and tass at 70. DAZMON give me the detail for samkor. ASSASSIN my shows are not about nationality and politics its about the fighters and putting on the best fights in melbourne. keep them coming guys its all good.

[DazMon]

Samkor is on here regularly, otherwise you should be able to get to him thru Strike Force?
Looking forward to seeing you fight again Beno!

[Rickstar]

thanks Joe- thats food for thought

[brave]

300 vs ben mountford? Been impressed by the both of them, should be similar weight.

Nader, please bring back that ring girl from the last show! [:p][:p][^]

[Cheen Machine]

Pleasure to be on your show again Joe and im pumped to be fighting on the same card as Jake Marks just like the old days. Be good to have him in the same corner again.
Is this a fox show Joe?

[gvmartialarts]

Good luck with the show Joe, and good luck to the everyone fighting.

Make sure you get your photo to him quickly this time Cheney, maybe you might get on the poster ;) better put $100 with the photo as bribe though ;)

[Jake-Marks]

My fight is not confirmed yet Cheen. Have fights set before this one, so it depends on the outcome of them.

Will be a good night though.

[natho]

Hey Jake,
What fights have you got coming up before this one?
Cheers
Natho

[pesty]

couldnt possibly be a fox sport show, its not a tarik promotion

[Cheen Machine]

Matt Joe will give me a $100 bonus to have my pretty head on the poster what you talking bout mate im model material haha.

[Nader]

hey brave you would not know what her face looked like. hehehe.ive ben mountford but he has commitments.
hey dazmon samkor is fighting the greece champ.CHENEY good to have you again you sure give it your best,unfortunately its not a fox show but that is my aim. HI jake im hoping you will be fine i hear alot about you hopefully we will have the pleasure of seeing in action should be a good fight.
lets not forget our gladiator sarah howett(VIPER) vs lea patrick
and the other good one to look out for is Marc vs Rahulla the rematch
thanks guys keep them coming

[DazMon]

Yep I know Joe.

And it will be good to see Rahulla fight rules he is more familiar with.

[pesty]

if i remember from the last imsa show, sam edney took rahulla to school fighting his favourite rules

[dnt_look_bak]

Pesty have u ever fought with the flu???? not taking anything away from sam edney hes a great fighter, but its pretty hard to go the distance when ur sick

[Cheen Machine]

DLB i can vouch for you on that one mate it does suck fighting sick ive done it a few times. You dnt fite to ur best

[Jake-Marks]

Hey Nath, I fight in Brissy have a look at the Jim Cass show thread, the guy im fighting from Hong Kong went the distance with Aaron ts2 Liegh last yr. Then K1 youth trials.

[DazMon]

That was not the Rahulla we all know pesty.

[pesty]

from memory dlb, bout 5 times have fought with the flu, did all imstas fighters have the flu, cant recall any winning ? honest question, not knocking any of imstas crew, they all seemed lack lustre that night

[benmoun]

I know I didn't have the flu, just didn't fight that well that night

[ChrisQ]

Nor did I. Just wasn't a good night at the office.

[Gards30]

hay Joe, is lea patrick from NZ?

[DazMon]

Who else fought with the flu?

[ChrisQ]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

Who else fought with the flu?


No body

[DazMon]

Yeah I thought so, 'bout 5 times' comes from nowhere huh!?

Are you training Quirky?

[ChrisQ]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

Yeah I thought so, 'bout 5 times' comes from nowhere huh!?


Think he was referring to himself Daz.

And yeh I'm still training.

[pesty]

you need to read a bit more thorough dazmon, i was replying to dlb's question, good to see ben and chris just say they had a bad night at the office and make no excuses,

[BTK]

Line up looks okay, bit of everything. what sanctioning body is running this show? a few WMC fighters on there

[DazMon]

Ah yes I get it now, why did you fight so often like that?

[pesty]

sometimes i wish i never did, but i did win some of those fights, it was more to do with not letting the promoter down or my opponent, generally it was in the last week before the fight i got the flu, just had to get in there and do my best, had 3 wins and 2 losses when feelin average, just used experience to help me through.

[dnt_look_bak]

Pesty i didnt make excuses for my self becasue i didnt fight.
I was jst sayin Rahula was sick

[Nader]

http://img182.imageshack.us/img182/1603/powerplaypromotion6a0ir7.jpg

[ChrisQ]

Any idea on ticket prices yet Joe?

[DazMon]

Who is the designer Joe?

[Cheen Machine]

Sweet poster Joe greek champ looks like a solid boy.

[Nader]

HI GUYS MY DESIGNER FOR THE POSTERS IS PROMOTING U, TICKET PRICES ARE $45 GENERAL, $65 SEATED, $1200-$1500 FOR TABLES WITH FOOD.
AS FOR THE GREEK CHAMP LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HIMIN ACTION WHICH I THINK WILL BE A RIPPER.ALSO CHECK OUT THE CARD IT HAS CHANGED A LITTLE

[Bushi]

Also looking forward to Kuong Tran, EXPLOSIVE fighter....

[XYGT351]

I really hope SAMKOR (Ben) is training hard for this one.
Just got word the the Greek champ wants to make a BIG impression in AUS as this could be his first step to a big career.
He wants to follow Zambo's footsteps and knows that this is the place to get started. He's training like an animal !!!

[Nader]

mike dimitriou after 9 fight 9 wins takes on thierry virapol the french champ who has had over 40 fights. full credit to you mike for taking every challenge that comes your way. also the war that will be between nick raptis vs koung tran. what are your thoughts on these 2 fights guys.

[imported_n/a]

Michael is a machine and has beaten every challenge so far, now is time to step up and I think he has the goods to go far, this will be a great fight for him. As for Nick V Coung, well both action packed fighters I think this fight wont go the distance who is standing at the end will be hard to say.

[P-DYNAMO]

Good luck to Micheal,well done taking the big step up..

[Thai style]

XYGT351 mate Ben is always training hard and i know he's hungry as ever after having a couple losses in his last couple of outings.

Also i watched Vasilis's fight with the the Turkish boy and to say the Turkish boy is not at the same level as Ben.

Both Ben and Vasilis are quality fighters and this should be cracker fight. My prediction is Benny "samkor" unanimous points decision.

Also i reckon Brodie by punch TKO.

Just my opinions

Cheers crackers :)

[Nader]

HI DYNAMO DONT HEAR MUCH ABOUT YOU ANYMORE ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING. THAI STYLE THATS SOME PREDICTION WE WILL HAVE TO WAIT AND SEE ON THE NIGHT. BUT BOTH FIGHTS WILL BE PLEASING TO WATCH. GOOD LUCK TO ALL FIGHTERS.

[Kevin M.]

Hey Joe, how's Thierry training with?

[imported_n/a]

Great card Joe - got the judges hat on for this one so look forward to seeing all the forum regulars there.

[perrycale]

Wonder Which Fighter the Greek Community will now start backing as the second coming of Zambidis considering that Tariks not doing shows anymore here .

Micheal 300 Demetriou or Bill Kakarikos ? I sincerley hope its both.

Looking forward to the night at the new venue.

[P-DYNAMO]

quote:HI DYNAMO DONT HEAR MUCH ABOUT YOU ANYMORE ARE YOU STILL FIGHTING.

Hi Joe,Yes mate im back in training and looking for FTR fights this year,Hopefully i will get a few here in QLD as the fighters in my weight are very good and it will be a big challenge for me..
All the best with the show,you are putting on Quality shows down there,good stuff..

[DazMon]

You reminded me I was going to say its great we are getting the QLD fighters down here now, it'll take our shows to a better standard.
So now if you ever fight in the future Gem make sure there is a 'QLD' under your name!

[Nader]

HEY DYNAMO I ALWAYS BELIEVED A GOOD CHALLENGE BRINGS OUT THE BEST IN A FIGHTER. WELL PORNSTAR THEY ARE BOTH GREEK AND GOOD FIGHTERS HOW CAN THE GREEK SUPPORTERS GO WRONG. AS FOR THE QLD FIGHTERS THEY ARE VERY GOOD SO WHY WOULDNT I WANT TO BRING THEM DOWN FULL CREDIT TO THEM. HI KEVIN YOU PUT ON A GOOD FIGHT ON THE LAST POWERPLAY SHOW AND WOULD LOVE TO HAVE ON THIS ONE BUT IT WAS A FULL CARD. BUT THE NEXT ONE FOR SURE IF YOUR AVAILABLE.
KEEP EM COMING

[imported_jase]

good luck to all the SFG fighters.

[Rickstar]

What i wanna see on a show this year is actually and aussie Vs Turk or aussie Vs Greek fight. The Turkish and Greek fans are sensational and always get behind their countrymen but i think that it could draw a very big crowd to pin aussie vs someone else. Just an idea guys but i think it will sell tickets, patriotism in the country areas (ie:bacchus marsh, shepparton, warnambool etc.) is very strong these days.

[J A]

I agree with Thai Style, the SFG boys are training hard and looking sharp!
Greek champ or not, Vasilis is in for a rugged night at the office with Benny! The move up in weight from 66 has worked wonders with Ben and his strength and power!
As for Brodie, well he is a quiet achiever, very underrated. Just gets in and gets on with business. A lot of people under estimate him (hey Sandym) and get a rude shock as they did in the Colgrave fight!
Good luck to Nader for the show.

[Turkmen]

look like a very very good show. all the best.

[Kevin M.]

No worries Joe, next time... :D

[Nader]

looking forward to having on my next show kevin. thanks for your support turkman hope you will be there for the show. hey JA any fighter that under estimates his opponent is not smart,i think they all respect each other and the qld boys are tuff i saw the andy fight and it was a good punch from brodie that put andy on his ass.we will have to wait and see what happens with FEARLESS JOEL.
rickstar i know where your coming from and its good to see that they follow there country man with a passion but we do live in australia and it should never be taken outside the ring with some of the supporters have no control. its a sport that every fighter is trying to achieve the best he can.
full credit to any fighter that steps in the ring. hope to see all you guys on the night keep em coming

[Bushi]

Joe,

You have email....

[Nader]

HI BUSHI, MY EMAIL IS ppg@bigpond.net.au

[Bushi]

ok, will re send

[U.LOCO]

HI Jo just had a look at the poster and wondering why ther is not a photo or the name of Nick V Coung fight this fight will be up ther with the best on the night.

[DazMon]

Probably wasn't finalised when designed.
Sometimes its not so easy for us designers to redesign files once everything fits just right the first time around, the promoters are gunna get charged.
Cuong got his pic on there so it is halfway there!

[Nader]

U.LOCO YOUR RIGHT IN WHAT YOUR SAYING BUT ITS HARD TO FIT EVERYBODY ON THE POSTER ESPECIALLY WHEN YOUR TRYING NOT TO OVER PACK THE POSTER AND WHEN YOU DONT HAVE THE RIGHT INFO AT THE TIME YOU HAVE TO GO WITH WHAT YOU GOT.BUT IT WILL BE FIGHT WHERE BOTH FIGHTERS WILL GO PUNCH FOR PUNCH.

[Yasothon]

Hi guy's i'm Thiery's trainer for this fight ,just wanna say that he's excited to have his first fight in Oz and is looking forward to putting a good show for all you guy's going to the fight's.Just a little Bio on him he's a seasoned and quality fighter who's Thailand based and has fought in Lumpinee and various other gala's in Thailand and has fought Santachai in Hong Kong, has an impressive record of 42 fights for 33 wins .To be honest don't know too much about Mike 300 Demitriou but from what i've heard he is a very promising impressive fighter so kudo's to him to taking on someone with Thierry's pedigree.Looking forward to coming to Melb and for the fight.

[imported_n/a]

Wow what a step up for 300, this guy sounds pretty good

[Yasothon]

Here's a pix of Thierry after his fight with Santachai in H.K. http://i27.tinypic.com/1zvqreg.jpg

[pahos69]

Joe, good luck with the show, im sure it will be great. Thanks for the txt (2nd time seeing me), you have my respect and character vote.
All the best in the future mate...

Paris

[Nader]

HI YASOTHON,IVE READ UP ON THIERRY AND HIS RECORD IS VERY IMPRESSIVE, MIKE IS VERY RESPECTABLE FIGHTER WHO LOVES THE CHALLENGE,AND ITS A BIG STEP UP FOR HIM.I THINK IT WILL TURN OUT TO BE A GOOD FIGHT BETWEEN THE TWO.LOOKING FORWARD TO HOSTING YOU GUYS. PAHOS THANK YOU FOR YOUR SUPPORT MATE. FIGHT FAN YOU HIT IT ON THE HEAD WHAT A STEP UP FOR 300. KEEP THEM VIEWS AND COMMENTS COMING.

[P-DYNAMO]

Mike 300 has balls of steel..

[Nader]

dymano,mike just want to fight and get as good as he can mate full credit to the boy

[brave]

If 300 can win this, SUPERSTARDOM!! if not, BALLS OF STEEL!

[Berridge]

What about the calves on Santichai in that pic!!!omg!
Good luck with the show Nader..good luck to all the fighters!
Go hard Samkor, rip it up mate!

[DazMon]

Yeah I am in awe of chunky calves too! Good stuff.

[John Cav]

Got my front row ticket last night!

This is shaping up to be a great show at a terrific new venue.

Well done Joe Nader, a mix of local, interstate and international fighters.

I know the planning is alos underway for Powerplay Round 7.
Looks like a big year for Joe Nader and Melbourne fight fans!

[Nader]

Jonh thank you for coming in as you know first in best dressed. guys fighting isnt about muscle size its about hard training conditioning and been mentally prepard.and im sure both fighters will be ready.
ive been speaking to all trainers regarding the fighters and they are all excited.

[Nader]

HI GUYS JUST TO LET YOU KNOW THAT ONLY 2 TABLES LEFT OUT OF 40.WE HAVE HAD GREAT RESPONCE FOR TABLES,ALSO THE CARD HAS CHANGED A LITTLE PLEASE LOOK ON PAGE 1 FOR CHANGES.

[perrycale]

http://www.greekcity.com.au/content.cfm?id=4128

[Nader]

PORNSTAR,HOWS ALL THE TALK ABOUT THIS GREEK CHAMP,DO YOU HAVE ANY NEWS FOR ME.THERE TALKING ABOUT HIM IN GREEK PAPERS ALL THE GREEK WEB SITES ECT.LOOKING FORWARD TO SEEING HIM IN ACTION.

[XYGT351]

Let's just say that he wants to continue where Zambo left off.
He's training like an animal and will definitely put on a great show.

[Nader]

HI XYGT351, MATE YOU ARE RIGHT ABOUT THE GREEK CHAMP HE DOES WANT TO MAKE A NAME FOR HIMSELF.BUT WHICH FIGHTER DOSEN'T, AND FROM WHAT IVE SEEN HE HAS THE GOODS TO CONTINUE IN ZAMBO'S FOOT STEPS. BUT LETS KEEP IN MIND THAT BEN COUNSEL KNOWS WHATS HE IS UP AGAINST AND IS READY TO FIRE. SOME GREEK FANS ARE SAYING ITS GOING TO BE A KO IN THE 4TH RND. WHAT ARE YOU THOUGHTS GUYS AND PREDICTIONS ON SOME OF THE FIGHTS.

[DazMon]

Hey Smokin Joe how come you always type with the Caps Lock on? I suppose it works in your favour tho coz whenever I want to find your response to something its easier to find.

[Lucy Tui]

Goodluck for your show Joe, thank you for flying me down much appreciated. Looking forward to the new venue and seeing the new Greek fighter fight.
Thanks again
Regards
Lucy Tui:)
Can't wait...

[XYGT351]

As I've never seen Ben fight, I can't really put up an arguement. I'm not even sure if any of the Greek supporters have seen him fight either so to say that there would be a KO in the 4th is a little pre-meditated. Unless someone has seen both of them in action, it's kinda hard to make a prediction.
I think the diff. here is that Ben has some footage/knowledge of the Greek champ whereas Kakarikos most prob. doesn't. Whether that will make a diff. or not, nobody knows - I guess we're just gonna have to wait and see.

[GOLDEN GREEK]

another greek champion making his mark

[perrycale]

the greeks need and want a hero in particular in melbourne,zambo looks unlikley to ever come back to melbourne unless promotors besides tarik are willing to pay some big $$$, so vasilis looks like the chosen one for now although i must say theres some very good local talent that the greeks in particular con zambo rambo and the boys should get behind right here in there very home town.


.George Sofocleous
.The Themelakis Brothers
.Micheal '300' Demetriou, should call him BP LIKE IN THE AD, BP THE QUITE ACHEIVER, very humble and quite as a mouse, super nice guy and supertalented.
.Tass'The Elite Greek'Tsitsiras-His ring entrance, if you aint seen it yet then you have missed out big time.

Golden greek, i look forward to seeing vassilis(Bill) in action on june 1st but theres some champions in our own backyard also.

[Turkmen]

Joe Nader = Next Big Promoter!!

[sarsha]

What weight is Mike 300?

[DazMon]

I think Mike is 69/70?

[DazMon]

Too heavy for you Heather!
Maybe after a few more La Porchetta meals next time you come down to Melb!

[sarsha]

hahah very funny daz...nah was just curious :-)

[NickaNacka]

Michael's fight weight is usually anywhere 69 - 72, but he probably fights most at around the 70 mark. His fight record is 9 fights for 9 wins.
Hope that helps heather : )

[sarsha]

Thanks nic :-).....good luck for your fight girl!!!

[Nader]

hey dazmon ive gone with small caps today.Lucy tui its always a pleasure to have you as a guest at my shows.XY GT they are only predictions mate we all have to wait on the night and see what happens. hey golden greekn the grrek boy gets his chance in melbourne,but as pornstar said look at the greek talent here ive seen mike 300 and tass fight and i really believe they have a big future ahead of them.thanks for the kind words turkman i will do my best to put on the best fights from locals to international. i cant wait for this show. thanks guys and keep them coming

[XYGT351]

Kakarikos has arrived in Melb. and is very excited !!!!
Wants to put on a great show.

[Nader]

XYGT YOUR RIGHT HE HAS ARRIVED AND IS TRAINING AT POWERPLAY GYM AT THE MOMENT.HE IS IN GREAT SHAPE AND HE IS READY TO GO. THE BOY IS SHARP AND HE WANTS TO PLEASE THE AUSTRALIAN FANS.

[GOLDEN GREEK]

pornstar who do you mean ? we have champions in our own backyards ? please dont say you mean those 4 you mentioned [ THE THEMELARKIS BROTHERS PLEASE REMIND ME WHO THEY ARE AGAIN ] since no body's heard from them in years

[Nader]

HEY GOLDEN GREEK WHAT DO YOU THINK OF MIKE 300 AND TAS, AND ALSO TO ALL YOU GREEK FANS IF YOU HAVE TIME ON YOUR HANDS COME IN TO POWERPLAY GYM AT 66 HOLMES ST BRUNSWICK AND WATCH THE GREEK CHAMP TRAIN AND TAKE PHOTO'S WITH HIM.

[perrycale]

I think Joe nailed it on the head for that one golden greek, not doubting Vassilis ability im just saying that theres some greek fighters in our backyard who deserve the same support, if your really keen to show your patriotism check the link below, good poster by the way.....

http://australianboxingforum.yuku.com/topic/1689

[Nader]

HI GUYS IN MY OPINION EVERY FIGHTER DESERVES CREDIT FOR JUMPING IN THE RING. AND ALL YOUR GOOD FIGHTERS SHOULD BE RECOGNISED FOR THEIR TALENT REGARDLESS OF NATIONALITY. WE HAD A GOOD TURN UP FROM THE GREEK FANS YESTERDAY TO WATCH VASILIS TRAIN AT POWERPLAY GYM.AND IM SURE THE CROWD IS GOING TO LOVE THE BOY KEEP IN MIND HE IS ONLY 20YRS OLD. EVERYONE IS TALKING ABOUT THE GREEK BOY PLEASE LETS NOT FORGET OUR MAIN EVENT JOEL VS BRODIE AND MIKE 300 VS THIERRY VIRAPOL. WHAT ARE YOUR THOUGHTS ON THOSE 2 FIGHTS.

[brave]

Ill be backing 300! I watched thierrys fight on youtube and he will be a very hard opponent. Alot more experienced but this fight will prove that 300 has what it takes to be #1.
Win or lose, his a champion!

[Nader]

BRAVE MAN,BUT IM WITH YOU ON THIS ONE, I THINK ITS A BIG STEP UP FOR MIKE 300 BUT THATS WHAT BECOMING A TRUE CHAMPION IS ALL ABOUT. STEP UP AND TAKE THE CHALLENGE.

[John Cav]

Hi Joe,
You know how much I am looking forward to this show.

Brodie v. Joel is a terrific main event.
Brodie really impressed me with his comeback and KO against andy Colgrave. Good on you for bringing him and Mark Pease back to Melb. Top guys from a top gym.

Hope to catch-up with the forum regulars and some I have not met before. I will be sitting front row A16 :D

[Nader]

JOHN CAV,THATS WHY THEY CALL IT FIRST IN BEST DRESSED. AS FOR BRODIE I DID WATCH THAT FIGHT AND I THOUGHT BOTH BOYS WERE VERY GOOD.UNFORTUNATELY FOR ANDY HE WAS ON THE END OF A GOOD PUNCH WHICH PUT HIM DOWN. SO I THINK WITH JOEL FIGHTING BRODIE IT WILL BE A GOOD MATCH AND HOPEFULLY WE CAN GET JOEL AND ANDY TO FIGHT EACH OTHER BUT THERE IS ALOT OF HURDLES TO OVER COME. BUT NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE. IM SURE I WILL SEE AT THE SHOW MATE.

[Bushi]

Will be a contrasting style, Brodie as we have seem starts fast, Joel the opposite, Brodie quick on his feet, Joel composed with rhythm...and a strong defense...

HUGE step up for Mike, haven't watched Thierry but will be a great fight cos we know what Mike is like...

Not sure on Vas but I'm sticking with our local forum fighter, the man that says it how it is... no doubt the same in the ring...

And Cheney v The Shock....no guessing where I'm sitting on this one...

Will be a GREAT night..

[Q]

I have the feeling this will be the event which reveals our future champs,

[Nader]

Hi Bushi,i just picked thierry from yhe airport and he said he ready to put on a show for melbourne people but mike will be hard to beat. joel vs brodie will be awsome in my view.im going the local boy for me.
ALSO WE HAVE THE PLEASURE OF HAVING THE FOLLOWING GUESTS AT THE SHOW TOMORROW NIGHT. SAM SOLIMAN AND HIS TEAM, JASON COLEMAN FROM DANCING WITH THE STARS. GLADIATORS. GET DOWN THERE GUYS IT WILL BE ONE NOT TO MISS. THANK YOU ALL FOR YOUR SUPPORT.

[harls]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

Hey Smokin Joe how come you always type with the Caps Lock on? I suppose it works in your favour tho coz whenever I want to find your response to something its easier to find.


Your right Daz, much easier to find..and even harder to read.

[perrycale]

looking forward to a great night of fights at a brand new venue, see you all there.

[dnt_look_bak]

We need Bushi with the live results lol

[ChrisQ]

One quick result just in...

Rahulla Paykari beat Mark Luncente in their rematch via majority pts decision.

[dnt_look_bak]

Thats the result i was wanting
Well done Rahulla
A shame i couldnt be at the show it was a great fight card good luck to the rest of the fighters

[P-DYNAMO]

keep em coming guys

[ChrisQ]

Jarod Grigor with the unanimous pts decision over Aaron Cheeny.

[dnt_look_bak]

Looks like Quirky is the man of the night
love your work Chris ;)

[ChrisQ]

Hui Chen beat Koung Tran via unanimous pts decision.

Huge upset IMO by Hui Chen and coming just one week after his fight in Shep.

Definately a fighter to keep an eye on.

[P-DYNAMO]

good work Chris..

[brave]

Got a msg 300 won, dropped thierry 3 times.

Hope its true.

[Gards30]

good work chen, second time backing up for a fight within a week and winning... BBQ pork and sticky rice coming up TC!! ;)

[ChrisQ]

quote:Originally posted by brave

Got a msg 300 won, dropped thierry 3 times.

Hope its true.


Yeh 300 took the unanimous pts win over Thierry.

What's next for him, seems unstoppable at the moment.

[samkor]

any more results???????? strike force boys????

[Vrohopoios]

What about the fight of Vasilis Kakarikos??? Any results guys??

[ASSASSIN]

Just came back, I had to leave after the Vasili fight.


Michael ''300'' Dimitriou won... he knocked down the French dude about 4 times in his match, including 3 times in the last round. Great win.


Vasili Kakarikos lost on points, but in my opinion he was robbed badly.
The other dude fought well, all credit to him, he did well against the Greek champ, well done to him, but Vasili defeintely won that match.
Vasili also knocked that Queenslander down for an 8 count in the 2nd round, and also landed some heavy blows in that round aswell.
Also quite a few of the Queenslander's kicks simply hit Vasili's gloves, so many shouldn't of not being counted.... maybe the judges were counting some of those, I don't know?
It was fairly close, and credit to that Aussie dude who did well, but Vasili was very hard done by in my opinion and I was shocked when i heard the judges give the results and the win to the other guy.


Also the first match of the night, the girl in the pink I thought was also robbed, not sure how she wasn't given the win in that match?

Sorry if my post was provative, but that's just how I feel.

Credit also to Hui Chen who had a BIG win over Koung Tran. Top stuff by Chen... That's a big win...


Also good show put on by Joe Nada, well done mate, although Pity the atmosphere of the crowd didn't reflect some of the good matches.
Well done Joe...

[Vrohopoios]

Thanks for the info Assasin. Hope he does better next time.

[ASSASSIN]

that's ok V.

Sorry if my post was provative by the way, I don't mean it to be, but it's simply what I thought.

[Turkmen]

I rekon vasili should be on the first plane back to athens. no comboz, no kicks, no defence, too much hype, his nothing special.

[Kano]

quote:Originally posted by Turkmen

I rekon vasili should be on the first plane back to athens. no comboz, no kicks, no defence, too much hype, his nothing special.

This would have to be the first post that of yours that I have ever agreed with. For some superstar next Zambidis wanna be he was crap. I would thought that the fight would have been a draw, Judd was definately stronger in the last three rounds, but he lost the first round and got an 8 count in the second.
Was an easy night for Jarod, Nicole & Joel.
It was the first time that I have seen Michael 300 fight. I was very impressed with him. I don't know where the french guy has had his 45 fights. He had absolutely nothing on Michael.
Kane

[P-DYNAMO]

LOL go Juddy u bloddy Champion,took the fight not long ago and beat the "GREEK CHAMP"(apparently).Im pretty sure Judd has had less than 10 fights,and that would have been his first K1 rules fight..
Good stuff Juddy:D:D

[P-DYNAMO]

Who won out of Brodie and Joel?

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by Turkmen

I rekon vasili should be on the first plane back to athens. no comboz, no kicks, no defence, too much hype, his nothing special.


no defence?


He avoid many of his opponents kicks, and simply blocked many of his other kicks with his gloves...

He also has good punches, his boxing was skills were great...
Easily one ofthe best boxing techniques I've seen.


I gave the 1st round- 10-10
2nd round- 10-8 to Vasili
3rd round- 10-10
4th round- 10-9 to Vasili
5th round- 9-10 to the Aussie guy.

[P-DYNAMO]

quote:to the Aussie guy.
His name is Judd Cornwall Assassin.

[imported_n/a]

For those that thought Vasilios won you simply cannot score K-1. I judged the fight, gave it a draw and Vasilios was damm lucky to get that. Apart from the odd left body shot and overhand right he had a poor work rate. Judd kept kicking and kneeing and whilst Vaislios did avoid many of them in the early rounds he did nothing to get a point back. In the later rounds Judd listened to his corner and kicked low / mid section and none of these were checked hence every one of them scored. A big slapping punch or overhand right might look spectaular but it has to land. I heard no complaints from Vasilios or his team after the fight - he freely admitted that he threw virtually no kicks, especially no leg kicks and no knees. Apart from the one round how do you think he won it Assassin?

The fight between Kim-Alina and ? was also a draw with one girl winning two rounds with nice picking off combinations (except for the last ten seconds of round two) and then tried to play it safe and got counted in the third round. 10-9 for the first two rounds and then a 8-10 for the third equals a draw. Again if you scored it any other way then you get bluffed by a ten second burst and disregarded the previous 1 minute 50 seconds.

[Kano]

quote:
He avoid many of his opponents kicks, and simply blocked many of his other kicks with his gloves...

He also has good punches, his boxing was skills were great...
Easily one ofthe best boxing techniques I've seen.


I gave the 1st round- 10-10
2nd round- 10-8 to Vasili
3rd round- 10-10
4th round- 10-9 to Vasili
5th round- 9-10 to the Aussie guy.

My understanding of K1 is that if you wear a shot on your gloves/arms it is still an effective scoring shot? please correct me if I am wrong...
on this basis the 4th was Judds without a doubt. 3rd round, well **** a coin.

[Kano]

quote:Originally posted by P-DYNAMO

Who won out of Brodie and Joel?

Joel did with ease. It was a technical fight. Both guys were picking their shots but Joel was getting there first, dumped Brodie a few times and Brodie appeared to be struggling to get the points back on Joel.

[samkor]

assasin you are a spanker mate..
i have heard it on good authority that judd beat the "GREEK CHAMP" like a piece of cake.. But you get on here and say he got badly robbed, perhaps you watched and scored the fight through your one eye, what about congratulations to judd for beating the GREEK CHAMP, when it was judds 10th or 11th fight, nah none of that hey, just he was badly robbed.
Anyway good work juddy, your the CHAMP.... nice work..:D:D:D[^]

[P-DYNAMO]

Congrats to "THE AUSSIE GUY" with 10 fights lol

[Kano]

I wouldn't say like a piece of Cake samkor. It was fairly even in the first, beaten in the second, even third and Judd's way in the fourth and fifth. He certainly held his own. The body rips on Vasilis were unbelievable. That is what dropped Judd from memory. His ribs will be sore today I would have thought.
Why didn't you fight?
Kane

[samkor]

ok well sorry about the piece of cake, but just sh!ts me that assasin got on here and is like vasil got robbed, blah blah blah, you know, instead of congratulations to jud for and incredible step up and victory............
i didnt fight cause i have had glandular fever and probably wont be fighting for a bit until i get better, but yeah was spwewing i couldnt fight.
Congratulations again to juddy....

[Jackson]

Sounds like a good show with some good results well done Powerplay and everyone supporting them.

[pahos69]

quote:Originally posted by Turkmen

I rekon vasili should be on the first plane back to athens. no comboz, no kicks, no defence, too much hype, his nothing special.


I will have to dissagree, he had good combo's and they were effective. You could hear the thuds from the back row. I dont think at any stage Bencousel phased the Rooster. He did state that his legs where damaged from a previous fight (thats his say), I did think that his legs where a little thin, thus the last name "ROOSTER". He didn't use his legs much but he's punches made up for the lack of kicks.
I thought he won the fight clearly and as for the hype, i didnt hear any???

Michael 300 did a job on the Frenchman. On the opening round I though Mike may have a smudge on his stats, HOW WRONG was I. Full credit to Mike, he is a TRUE CHAMPION. Dont hear much at the mouth but signal is definately amplified in the ring.
Nicole also showed some remarkable Mawashi-gerrie's. Go Nick.
I did think it was a bit of a missmatch though because Nox didn't show much. (Might of been an off day for her).

I pitty the guys who payed for seats. Fans who payed for general entrance were told to take a seat. (They spat chips)
The DJ bloke needed a nudge from Perry and he had left the sound off in some rounds. (I hate when that happens)
Great show and excellent match ups, but I have to say, I didnt feel the electricty I normaly get from Nader's previous shows. I blame Sunday...

[perrycale]

quote:Originally posted by P-DYNAMO

quote:to the Aussie guy.
His name is Judd Cornwall Assassin.


Juddy's trainer mark pease wanted me to call him Juddsenklai Cornwall last night so i did.

[samkor]

i am ben counsel and i didnt fight, the guy that fought and WON was called judd cornwell. we train at the same gym, strikeforce.

[samkor]

hey pahos69, you dont win fights in kickboxing/muaythai or whatever with just boxing, but his legs were sore hey, that must of been the reason for him not kicking much. ha doubt it!!!!

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by samkor

assasin you are a spanker mate..
i have heard it on good authority that judd beat the "GREEK CHAMP" like a piece of cake..


Like a piece of Cake? lol
So much for the good authority.
He was actually lucky not to get knocked out in the 2nd round by Vasilis after not only being knocked down for a 8 count, but also copped a few hard shots in that round that knocked him abit loopy...
judd cornwell did well to actually stay up in that round.

Don't get me wrong, judd cornwell did very well, great effort, taking nothing away from him, and it was fairly close fight, but there is no way Vasili lost that match.
Alot of Judd's kicks, particularly in the middle of the match simply were blocked by Vasili's gloves...
Vasili's shots often landed alittle more cleanly and had much more devestating effect on Judd than Judd's kicks had on Vasili.



quote:But you get on here and say he got badly robbed, perhaps you watched and scored the fight through your one eye, what about congratulations to judd for beating the GREEK CHAMP, when it was judds 10th or 11th fight, nah none of that hey, just he was badly robbed.

read my first post, and you'll actually see that on several occasions I said that Judd put in a great effort and did very well. ;)

[imported_n/a]

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL

The area where you go wrong is that you think one big blow equals three kicks. It doesn't! Judd kept working that leg and midsection in the middle - later rounds and Vasilios did not try and check them. Instead he tried to walk through and land that left body rip / overhand right KO and this cost him the fight. He was outworked and outpointed by using a silly strategy - he refused to kick or knee in a K-1 fight.

[samkor]

ok cool, but do you see where i am coming from, i got told that judd won the fight, and won it well, and then i get on sportz blitz to see some results and the first post is that the greek champ got robbed and should of won the fight...... i spose i get cut cause judd is my mate and if the vasil is the greek champ and juddy beat him i am stoked, but the first thing i read is that vasilis got ripped off and he had sore legs and crap like that..

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA
A big slapping punch or overhand right might look spectaular but it has to land.

Alot of them did land however.
I found alot of Judd's kicks didn't land or simply hit Vasili's gloves.


quote:I heard no complaints from Vasilios or his team after the fight - he freely admitted that he threw virtually no kicks, especially no leg kicks and no knees.

True, But Judd barely threw in Punches the entire match.
Don't get me wrong, Judd was very SMART to use his kicks and knees to counter Vasili coming on the inside with the punches and keep him at a distance, however while Vasili barely threw any kicks and knees, Judd barely threw any punches at all in the whole much.




quote:Apart from the one round how do you think he won it Assassin?


I gave the following

quote:I gave the 1st round- 10-10
2nd round- 10-8 to Vasili
3rd round- 10-10
4th round- 10-9 to Vasili
5th round- 9-10 to Judd.

either the 3rd of 4th round I gave to Vasili 10-9, I can't remmeber which one it was... the reason being because his shots were more devesating and landed cleaner, and finshed that round strongly.

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL

How often do experienced judges make decisions that many people disagree with?


quote:The area where you go wrong is that you think one big blow equals three kicks. It doesn't!

The thing is alot of Judd's kicks didn't land, and simply weren't blocked by Vasili's gloves, only in the last round did he start landing them well which I gave that round to Judd.
Vasili's shots also had much more effect on Judd.

As I said, well done to Judd, GREAT effort by him, however I just thought Vasili was hard done by. That's all.

[imported_n/a]

Well I can only say thank god you do not judge. Those hands that you were scoring were not landing on his head or torso with enough frequency to overcome being kicked in the left side of the body and outside leg continuously through the fight. That leg started to mark up at the end of the first round - Mark Pease was screaming at Judd to focus on it and he did from four onwards. If you do not check and soley rely on hands then you are going to find it pretty hard to win. Vasilios threw some great body shots and some head shots but there was simply not enough of them to overcome Judd keeping busier with kicks and knees.

A close fight - yes. Calling it a robbery is just bias talking.

[Bushi]

Just like Vasili's punches landing on Judd's elbows..

Assassin, there's only a few that think Vas won...

Great show overall...and also good to meet Zambo Rambo..;)

[samkor]

pira pira i am glad there are people like you on this forum who have an idea and actaully know what is going......

[imported_n/a]

quote:Originally posted by ASSASSIN

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL

How often do experienced judges make decisions that many people disagree with?


Many times - usually because they favour a fighter and watch him carefully rather than the other bloke. If I had a dollar for every fan that was sure there boy got robbed on the night then ate humble pie when they viewed the tape I would be a rich man.

quote:The area where you go wrong is that you think one big blow equals three kicks. It doesn't!

The thing is alot of Judd's kicks didn't land, and simply weren't blocked by Vasili's gloves, only in the last round did he start landing them well which I gave that round to Judd.
Vasili's shots also had much more effect on Judd.


The kicks did land though, that leg was marking up at the end of the first round. Judd increased his focus on it under instructions from his corner and it worked. I am intrigued as to how that leg and side marked up from the first round onwards if they were not landing? As I have said relying on one big kaboosh and ignoring everything else cannot make up for being beaten comprehensively in two difficult weapons.

[imported_n/a]

quote:Originally posted by samkor

pira pira i am glad there are people like you on this forum who have an idea and actaully know what is going......


Thank god I judged it eh!

[samkor]

hell yes and lucky assasin didnt..............

[pahos69]

quote:Originally posted by samkor

hey pahos69, you dont win fights in kickboxing/muaythai or whatever with just boxing, but his legs were sore hey, that must of been the reason for him not kicking much. ha doubt it!!!!


Sorry, the name is judd cornwell, my mistake. Look dude, I know that fights are not won by just punches and I dont think the Rooster was much of a kicker. Points are scored by both kicks and punches, Most of Judds kicks however were deflected off the Roosters gloves, nothing realy effective that I saw. After the 8 count, Judd was looking weak, in the last round for the first 30 sec Judd showed some aggression, but not enough to take it home. IMHO...
I know he's your mate and you may be biased, but do you think he honestly won that??? I don't know either fighter, but it looked as if work rate and effectiveness had to be given to the ROO.

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

quote:Originally posted by ASSASSIN

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL

How often do experienced judges make decisions that many people disagree with?


Many times - usually because they favour a fighter and watch him carefully rather than the other bloke. If I had a dollar for every fan that was sure there boy got robbed on the night then ate humble pie when they viewed the tape I would be a rich man.

quote:The area where you go wrong is that you think one big blow equals three kicks. It doesn't!

The thing is alot of Judd's kicks didn't land, and simply weren't blocked by Vasili's gloves, only in the last round did he start landing them well which I gave that round to Judd.
Vasili's shots also had much more effect on Judd.


The kicks did land though, that leg was marking up at the end of the first round.

Many did, however mainly towards the end of the match did he start landing them fairly often. In the first round he landed some aswell.
But generally, especially in the middle of the match they were either dodged by Vasili or Blocked by his gloves.



quote:As I have said relying on one big kaboosh and ignoring everything else cannot make up for being beaten comprehensively in two difficult weapons.

I agree that at times, especially in the last round Vasili's workrate was slightely slack, however while Vasili did mainly punches, Judd mainly did only Kicks... and only some knees.
Also Vasili was not just working on one big punch, he did quite a few combo's throughout that match that knocked Judd slightely loopy, and you could even hear many of his devestating hits land from the back, and Judd actually did well do stay up.

Anyway, we can agree to disagree ;) :)



Overall though, I'm looking forward to see Vasili return, a very good talent, has one of the best boxing techniques I've seen, Just needs to lift his workrate alittle in his matches, and not have moments of explosions only to lay back for abit and get comfy.

Saw him on Saturday night, he's a little shorter than me, however very wide shoulders, and very built upper body which I guess is partly where his upper body strength, and devestating punches come from. Look forward to seeing him again. He can also improve alot and is only 20. :)

[gvmartialarts]

Congrats to all the winners, the whle show was a great display of technique, the reason, I think, the crowd didn't get into it as much was due to the fact no one was really bombing away going for broke. Nearly every fight had the fighters picking their shots and relying on technique.

I was far from impressed with the French champ. No counter attacks, and was totally dominated by a cool and collected Mike 300. A nice feather in his cap, I hope he keeps it up.

I was looking forward to the Vasili and Counsel fight (only to catch up with Benny), but was surprised when Judd stepped in for Ben! And he did a great job to beat the Greek champ. I though Vasili was going to win after the 2nd round after that 8 count, but Judd stuck to his corners plan, knee when the Greek comes in, and kick high when he is standing in range. Worked well, the Greek rarely defending, and little to no counter attacks. When he did attack though, it was a left hook, right cross that snuck in a couple of times. You will not win a fight by not defending, not counter attacking, and relying on big body rips and over hand rights. I gave it a draw, and was not surprised with the decision going to Judd. I can see this thread going on for a few pages, hopefully someone can stick it on youtube.

I honestly though Joel was going to get punched up by Brodie, but as always, his composure and great defenses saw him win a fight where both fighters hardly got out of 2nd gear.

Good job Jared Grigor, and hats off to the smaller Cheeny who withstood a battering from Jared, and kept going. Jared could have easily gone to town and hurt Aaron, but he did enough to win convincingly, and even had Stan the Man come up to Jared and sing his praises for being a gentleman in the ring.

And yes, sunday night fights suck ;)

[Tony]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL



So do the judges in fights you've complained about. In fact, so do the judges in fights everyone complains about.


And you are not obligated to kick or knee in a K-1 fight, knees and kicks hold no prefernce over punches in scoring.

[imported_n/a]

quote:Originally posted by Tony

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Assassin,

Three judges with thirty years each in the sport and the board all had it within a point of each other and you reckon they are wrong? LOL



So do the judges in fights you've complained about. In fact, so do the judges in fights everyone complains about.


And you are not obligated to kick or knee in a K-1 fight, knees and kicks hold no prefernce over punches in scoring.



Tony,


Any fight I have taken issue with I was proven right by judges apology. End of story.

As for your comment about kicking or kneeing - total nonsense. Dont "feel obligated to kick or knee in a K-1 fight" - then dont feel obligated to win unless you KO the other bloke.

[Tony]

Sorry, you're wrong, kicking and kneeing aren't favored over punches in K-1 scoring (or at least they are not supposed to be) Mike Bernardo often beat top K-1 fighters on judges decisions using nothing but hands. You can argue this point all you want, but you'd be wrong if you insist that not kicking or kneeing automtically puts you behind on the cards. The ironic thing is that would make you a judge who doesn't really know how to judge, and we can't have that now can we?

Your first comment about how every time you have issue with a decison is validated by a judge's apology...do you feel, in a sport where judging is largely objective in certain areas, that your judging "expertise" is the only one that counts and that whatever you think is automtically right? "End of story"? LOL! Relax, it wasn't meant to spark defensiveness in you.

[imported_n/a]

Tony,


You changed your post after my reply so let me add.

No one said they are favoured - this is where you are going wrong and you are exaggerating my point of view in order to provide some form of justification for yours. Vasilios won the hands, Judd won the kicking and kneeing. Now count how many punches landed cleanly then compare to how many kicks and knees landed cleanly. Far more kicks and knees landed to scoring parts of the body than punches.

The second part of your posts makes no sense. If a person had an issue and was apologised to then they would feel validated wouldn't they?

BTW are you Greek Tony?

[Tony]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA

Tony,


No one said they are favoured - this is where you are going wrong. Vasilios won the hands, Judd won the kicking and kneeing. Now count how many punches landed cleanly then compare to how many kicks and knees landed cleanly.





OK, that clarified it then. Originally it sounded like you were arguing that not kicking or kneeing as much in a K-1 fight automtically puts you behind. This clarification makes sense.

No, I'm not Greek, why?

[imported_n/a]

[/quote]

OK, that clarified it then. Originally it sounded like you were arguing that not kicking or kneeing as much in a K-1 fight automtically puts you behind. This clarification makes sense.

No, I'm not Greek, why?
[/quote]

What I am saying that throwing no knees and one handfull of kicks in a five round fight - you are going to be hard pressed to get a win. I am not sure if you were there but if you were how many kicks did Vasilios throw IYO?

[Bushi]

quote: do you feel, in a sport where judging is largely objective in certain areas, that your judging "expertise" is the only one that counts and that whatever you think is automtically right If my memory is correct, 1 judge called it a draw, 2 others UPD to Judd, therefore that sways towards 3 people NOT thinking Vas did enough to win? quote: "End of story"? as Tony said..;)

Paris, I think you might have been blinkered also..;)

All in all I thought it was a great night with perhaps the best night of judging with IMHO NO wrong decisions, and yes the crowd was I thought quiet, but respectful and appreciatve of all fighets which is GREAT to see..

Joel Fisher fought a brilliant fight, I also thought Brodie would be too strong for Joel, but Joel showed he is one of the smarter fighters going around, didn't dominate with power shots, but cleanly and precisely racked up the points, dominated in the grapple, countered every time, and didn't let Brodie catch him often. A well deserved win over one of Australia's best...

Was good to catch up with Mark TS Pease again, and the Strikeforce guys. Aaron Cheney, tough boy and very humble also...300....well enough said, a force to reckon with and only 11 odd fights..and Hui Chen, big step up for a well deserved win against Kuong Tran. Nicole...great workrate and just picked her shots at will..and then Rahula, worked hard to even the ledger against Mark Lucente..

Joe, great venue too...looking forward to Round 6 on 17th August...

[Q]

I thought that this event might see the unveiling of a couple of future champs and it looks like it certainly has.

Joel 'FEALESS' Fisehr should no longer be under-rated, he has performed time and time again against the odds, I would like to see Fisher v Sarraccino for the Aus title, this would be a cracker.

Also Michael '300' Dimitriou again showed that he fights well above experience level, I think that he could have a crack at several of the top 10 fighters in his weight division and deserves a shot at the Vic title.

[chookymeat]

after watching sarranccino on evo 13.... i believe he would take his title for sure!

[John Cav]

Many of us have watched these fighters come up the ranks gaining experience and success. I agree it is now time for some of them to start to challenge for titles e.g. 300, Joel, Jared Grigor.
A re-match for Jared from the Prosecution show would be good.

I am sure that Joe Nader will read this! We all love a title fight and the fighters really do step up a notch!

I liked the venue, easy to get to and park.
The general ticket holders must still be smiling after being offered seats. A good gesture by Joe, even though I paid for my seat ;).

Worst issue for me was trying to find my car in the fog [V]

[Bushi]

quote: Worst issue for me was trying to find my car in the fog
might have been the blinkers you had on to mate, ;)...mind you we were at a race track..

[pahos69]

quote:Originally posted by zdkbushido
Paris, I think you might have been blinkered also..;)

[quote]

I may have forgotten to mention im also Greek.

[Cheen Machine]

Thanx Bushi good to meet you mate n put a face to ur name. Thanks to the team from Sor. Jairepheat for the fight and thank you Jared for the experience i learnt alot and gained confidence in my abilities.A big step up for myself.

Thank you to Joe Nader awesome promo again sir and i want in on ur next show mate. Great venue awesome crowd.

Good profile put together for Aussie Muay Thai great fite nites like this only bring the sport forward.

[johnny_619]

The venue was great, the food was great, the fights where great too.

IMO Vassili looked under done, there was a brake in his leg, but he wasnt one for excuses, he had a reason for not kicking at all or defending the kicks. I think he controlled the fight up until the last round, where he looked like he was out of gas. I do think he won, he did knock his opponent down. Vassilis hands where better than Judd's kicks. Vassili will be back, he is only 20 years old.

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by johnny_619
I think he controlled the fight up until the last round, where he looked like he was out of gas. I do think he won, he did knock his opponent down. Vassilis hands where better than Judd's kicks. Vassili will be back, he is only 20 years old.

thank you. Some people around me looked abit shocked when the decision was given, and the announcer even admitted it was abit of a suprise decision.

Having said that though, that Judd guy has a big future, well done to him for doing well, Vasili is not only the Greek champion (And a worthy one) up until last night's match, he has fought 150 amateur and pro fights for 148 wins, all around Europe. And the first time he lost was becuase he had a broken hand, and the other match he lost was because he broke his ankle. So that's a top effort by Judd.

[samkor]

ah the old i didnt win cause of a broken leg trick........ you are kidding me arnt you... you guys are seriously the worst. i am speechless, or typeless.

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by samkor

ah the old i didnt win cause of a broken leg trick........ you are kidding me arnt you... you guys are seriously the worst. i am speechless, or typeless.


I have no reason to doubt what Vasili himself told me.

I'm not refering to last night's match, I'm refering to his two losses in Europe out of 150 fights.

[harls]

Just for the hell of it, taken from the official K-1 site;

"K-1 JUDGING CRITERIA
Awarding of points shall be based on the following elements:

1. Whether an effective and accurate attack is acknowledged, and damage is inflicted on the opponent by authorized blows.
2. Points will be awarded in this priority:
1. Number of downs
2. Extent of damage inflicted on the opponent
3. Number of clean hits
4. Degree of aggressiveness (points in the offensive)
Page 6 of 15 The dominant fighter shall be awarded a score of ten (10), and points shall be deducted from his opponent.
The example of scoring the points will be the followings.
* When the difference is clear, the inferior fighter receives a one(1) point reduction.
* When a fighter is downed once, the downed fighter receives a two(2) point reduction. However, if the down is considered as FLASH DOWN, the reduction may be one(1) point.
* When a fighter is downed twice, the downed fighter receives a three(3) point reduction (applicable to the final match in tournament fights, and one match fights).
* A fighter shall be penalized with a one(1) point reduction for actions such as foul techniques when the referee declares such a penalty.
* A fighter shall be penalized with a two(2) point reduction for actions such as foul techniques when the referee declares such penalty.
In the final round, even with a minimal point difference, the difference will be counted as one(1) point, and winner must be decided."

[ChrisQ]

Arghh judging in Melbourne... the eternal topic

[Kano]

quote:Originally posted by ChrisQ

Arghh judging in Melbourne... the eternal topic

I didn't think there was a problem with the judging. From memory the close fights were scored that closely it wasn't funny. These guys deserve more credit than they are getting. Especially when they get crap thrown at them from people that have got no idea and only support someone because of their ethnencicity (spelling??)

[Tony]

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA




OK, that clarified it then. Originally it sounded like you were arguing that not kicking or kneeing as much in a K-1 fight automtically puts you behind. This clarification makes sense.

No, I'm not Greek, why?
[/quote]

What I am saying that throwing no knees and one handfull of kicks in a five round fight - you are going to be hard pressed to get a win. I am not sure if you were there but if you were how many kicks did Vasilios throw IYO?
[/quote]

I don't disagree with the decision, I also thought it was about a draw so a close win either way is pretty fair in my opinion.
What I didn't agree with was your assertion that the judges were automatically correct and shouldn't be questioned by someone on here because they had 30 years experience between them. And I also thought you inferred that kicks and knees count more in K-1 rules (a la Muay Thai), which is incorrect. But you already clarified that.
Why did you want to know if I was Greek?

[vorg]

<center>RESULTS
=======

FIGHT 1 - KICKBOXING - 3 x 2 min
Estha Kondos 63.40kg vs Kim-Alina Ross 62.80kg
DRAW

FIGHT 2 - K1 Rules - 3 x 2 min
Marc Lucente 69.90kg vs Rahulla Paykari 69.50kg
Winner: Rahulla Paykari

FIGHT 3 - MOD. MUAY THAI - 3 x 2 min
Coung Tran 71.50kg vs Hui Chen 71.00kg
Winner: Hui Chen

FIGHT 4 - MOD. MUAY THAI - 5 x 2 min
Nichole Brolan 58.70kg vs Rebecca Knox 58.00kg
Winner: Nichole Brolan

FIGHT 5 - FULL MUAY THAI - 5 x 3 min
Jared Grigor 74.60kg vs Aaron Cheney 76.30kg
Winner: Jared Grigor

FIGHT 6 - FULL MUAY THAI - 5 x 3 min
Michael Demetriou 69.90kg vs Thierry Virapol 68.60kg
Winner: Michael Demetriou

FIGHT 7 - K1 Rules - 5 x 3 min
Vasilios kakarikos 68.00kg vs Judd Cornwall 71.00kg
Winner: Judd Cornwall

FIGHT 8 - FULL MUAY THAI - 5 x 3 min
Joel Fisher 63.50kg vs Brodie Smith 64.90kg
Winner: Joel Fisher</center>

[P-DYNAMO]

quote:up until last night's match, he has fought 150 amateur and pro fights for 148 wins,
LOL yeah and he lost to an Aussie guy with 10 or so fights!!!!!Yes Vasili is a good fighter but Greek champion i seriously doubt,unless its an IKBF Greek title..:DIm sure theres better guys in Greece than him..Next Zambo??? ummm NO!!!
Seriously,you blokes are typical sore losing wogs..
Juddy won the fight cos Vasili couldnt beat him,now stop your excuses and crying about it..[}:)]

[P-DYNAMO]

And congrats to Joel Fisher,Brodie is one of the hardest guys in that weight,good effort on the win Joel..
Bad luck Brodie,maybe you should've had a couple drinks at my house last week afterall haha.
Well done to Joe Nader and team on another successful show,good to see you putting on some great fights.

[brave]

lol your right there dynamo, sore losers.

They can try to argue there point forever but the decision is the decision.

How come they dont support 300 more? Australian greek fighter who i believe will out shine any fighter in greece you can find.

He fought a more experience fighter who has fought thailand big names and won. Even though he has only had a handfull of fights who were mostly local.

No need to get fighters from overseas when the local boys are just as good. Melbourne muay thai on the move! lol :D

[Hitman]

Vasili Kakarikos is a **** kicker,, Champion my arse....
Well done Judd.

[imported_n/a]

quote:Originally posted by Tony

quote:Originally posted by PIRA PIRA




OK, that clarified it then. Originally it sounded like you were arguing that not kicking or kneeing as much in a K-1 fight automtically puts you behind. This clarification makes sense.

No, I'm not Greek, why?


What I am saying that throwing no knees and one handfull of kicks in a five round fight - you are going to be hard pressed to get a win. I am not sure if you were there but if you were how many kicks did Vasilios throw IYO?
[/quote]

I don't disagree with the decision, I also thought it was about a draw so a close win either way is pretty fair in my opinion.
What I didn't agree with was your assertion that the judges were automatically correct and shouldn't be questioned by someone on here because they had 30 years experience between them. And I also thought you inferred that kicks and knees count more in K-1 rules (a la Muay Thai), which is incorrect. But you already clarified that.
Why did you want to know if I was Greek?
[/quote]

I never think judges are beyond questioning however having been "questioned" backstage and also reading some comments you would think that Vasilios had just dominated Judd and had been "robbed". As you rightly point out it was a close fight and it really seems that the only persons taking exception seem to have a favourite fighter (which was why I asked the question about being Greek but you have cleared that up so sorry for any offence).

Vasilios at times looked the more dangerous fighter however he simply did not translate that into work rate. His corner I beleive were imploring him to pick up the work rate but he did not and he allowed Judd to get right back into the fight after that knockdown by a good game plan formulated by Mark Pease.

I look forward to seeing more of Vasilios - I believe he will leave nothing to chance next bout and perhaps a rematch with Judd could be organised?

Michael Dimitrio continued to impress - looked nervous at first and then settled right in and dominated from first to last. He should be Kris Sharpers first title defence IMO.

And big props to Hui Chen - Ben was rapt with his step up as he should be.

[johnny_619]

A rematch will be good, I do think Vassili will be better prepared next time. If he is 100% and able to kick next time it will be a different story.

[perrycale]

Is it just me or does Michael 300 Demetriou have a passing resemblance to Lance Buddy Franklin from Hawthorn, anyone else notice that ?

[mark pease]

First off i wish to thank Joe Nader and his team we were looked after and treated very well so thank you for that, Joe even drop us all at the airport the next day. Great touch! The show was at a very high standard and his team very professioanl in all they did.
Now to the fight being that we normally fight MuayThai and Judd has only had 9 fights in all, i was proud to be his trainer this night because he took the fight on cause the more expierenced boy i had matched with Vasilis pulled out due to sickness.
Myself personally i thought it was a draw and if that was the case we thought maybe the result would have gone against us for that reason being Vasilis was the new local hero.
But for Vasilis to go further he will have to kick more and knee,but if he can do that then K1 better look out cause this boy can generate some power with his hands. Now injuries or not if you are in there to fight and have not pulled out then there is no excuse you must perform.
Judd did as i told him to do and that was to kick and knee and after the greatest body shot i have seen in a long time which gave him an 8 count, he was told to keep his elbows locked on his body and he did it so Judd i am proud of you mate.
Next Brodie and Joel to me i agree with Matt Reid both boys did not really get out of first gear which frustrated me a little but hats off to Joel great and well done mate i look foward to seeing more of you..
Big hello to all my MuayThai friends down in Melbourne Bushi, John Cav, Carl, Tao and Don Millar it was great catching up with you all and 1 day i hope to be able to bring Pixie or TS2 down that way...

Cheers Mark Pease

[DazMon]

quote:shouldn't be questioned by someone on here because they had 30 years experience between them
I think he meant they had 30 years experience EACH!

[DazMon]

Harls is there anywhere in the K1 rules where it mentions preference for techniques or encouraging knees etc?

[Bushi]

Brave,

quote: How come they dont support 300 more? Australian greek fighter who i believe will out shine any fighter in greece you can find.
cos he fights MUAY THAI, the greeks

[johnny_619]

We do support 300. He looked like a normal ordinary kid walking around, he doesnt look like a fighter at all. Although he is like Bukaw with that rear kick.

Buddy Kickett? hmm, yea I can see where your comming from.

[Tony]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

Harls is there anywhere in the K1 rules where it mentions preference for techniques or encouraging knees etc?


It won't mention a preference or encouragement for knees anywhere in the official K-1 rules because such a scoring preference does not exist, as I already said. A strike is a strike in K-1.

[Tony]

quote:Originally posted by DazMon

quote:shouldn't be questioned by someone on here because they had 30 years experience between them
I think he meant they had 30 years experience EACH!


Which would have made it even scarier if one or all of them thought knee strikes and kicks automatically score higher than punches in K-1 rules.

[vorg]

Hi PPL,

Just finished uploading photos to my site, will post some here later tonight....

[scottya]

Hows the D300 going teryy
All sorted yet

[vorg]

Hi Scottya, still getting a grip on it, don't know if it's the lens, the D300 or the lighting, but it's a bit slow on the focus.

Still happy........

[harls]

Daz, as Tony said there are no preferences in regards to scoring diff strikes in K-1 but only that scoring shots must be clean.

Quote
"shouldn't be questioned by someone on here because they had 30 years experience between them".

It doesn't matter if a judge has had 50 years experience or 5 days, they are responsible for their decisions good or bad(as I am with mine). Was that comment referring to 30 years judging experience or just general experience? Big Difference I've found;

All this aside, from what I've heard the decisions on the night were pretty good.

[scottya]

quote:Originally posted by vorg

Hi Scottya, still getting a grip on it, don't know if it's the lens, the D300 or the lighting, but it's a bit slow on the focus.

Still happy........

I get to play around with the D300 today will take the same lens that we both use today & see how it goes
That way we can find out if its your lens the D300 or the user ?:D

[DazMon]

Harls is a MODERATOR!!!!!!

[vorg]

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[Nader]

Hi Guys,first i would like to say congratulations to all the winners and commiseration to all the runners up.first i would like to thank everyone involved in helping putting the show together a job well done.thank you to all the international and interstarte fighter for been part of our powerplay Promotion round 6.the first fight i didnt watch so i cant comment,2nd fight i thought wasn't much in it but Rahulla just did enough to win.3rd fight hui chen won the fight over the more experienced Coung Tran.Nicole looked very relaxed and in control good to see her in form again with a win over the N.Z.girl. Jarred grigor has what it takes to be a champion and he is all composed and class.to bad for Aaron who never says give up full credit to Aaron. Mike 300 what a composed and cool fighter with that thumping left leg was just to good for the french man,with mike doing what he wanted and looked the part. the fight everyone is talking about is the vasilis vs Judd Cornwall,in my opinion i think the Greek did not show his best but did drop Cornwall in the 2nd round with a body rip. and he really focused on that for the hole fight but could not achieve what he wanted to. and that was a k.o but full credit Cornwall for hanging in there and taking it back to the greek boy and not giving up to put him in front for the final decision. i think if the greek boy did throw some kicks during the fight he might have won it.as for Joel vs Brodie, well we have to class fighter who were very patient and both fought a smart fight only for Joel to have control of the fight and come home with the goods. to all you fans show some respect to all fighter for jumping in the ring, it is always easy to say if this or if that but it take courage to jump in there and perform.as far as the greek boy is concerned i spoke to him and he is not making excuses he is dissapointed for not putting on a good fight and letting the Australian fans down so dont bag him for trying.i spoke to Judd Cornwall after the fight and said to me geez that boy can hit and it was close. so full credit to all fighters and thank you to all trainers for participating on our powerplay show round 6. i will bring the greek boy out here again he has more to show and a point to prove. til next show on August 17 thank you all and i hope you enjoyed the show. keep em coming guys.lets not forget our special guests Sam Soliman and Jason Coleman Stan the Man

[khys]

what gym does nicole brolan train out of these days anybody know?

[Bushi]

Don Millar's, but Don's off o'seas for 6+ months as of today...

[khys]

thanks bushi and where is his gym use to be mkk or is it still.

[Bushi]

Was I think St.Kilda somewhere..not sure exactly..

[Nader]

CAN ANYONE TELL WHAT THEIR THOUGHTS ARE IF WE STARTED OUR SHOW ON SUNDAY AUGUST 17TH AT 6 PM INSTEAD OF 7.30PM.

[imported_n/a]

Would be easier for the kids. My youngest loves Powerplay shows and wanted to come to the last but with school the next day and a shortened school week something had to give. A 6 or 6.30 start and 10.30 - 11.00 finish sounds good Joe.

[brave]

Wouldnt mind earlier, work 5am monday mornings. Takes 1hr+ to get back home from the northside.
Need more events on a sat night. :)

[Kano]

It would be heaps better for those that travel from the country. We didn't get home until 2am so it makes it a late night.

[ChrisQ]

Interesting to see in the photos that Joel Fisher has another sponsor on board with Lojak Fightwear. He's definately doing something right in and out of the ring. Good on him!

[John Cav]

Hi Joe,
For a Sunday night show I would prefer an earlier start say 6pm.

From what I recall most fights went the distance which means a midnight finish, so an earlier start would be a good idea.

[Nader]

thats the kind of feed back i need and the next show august the 17th is on a sunday at the moonee valley race course doors will open at 5pm and the show starts at 6pm. i thank you all for support

[ASSASSIN]

quote:Originally posted by brave

Wouldnt mind earlier, work 5am monday mornings. Takes 1hr+ to get back home from the northside.
Need more events on a sat night. :)


agreed.. Kickboxing on Saturday nights is mad.