Ozkan v Zambidis Predictions!

[Tony S]

Im a bit suprised how slow the boards (this and Tariks). Obviously, if during a PPV they are going to "announce" something in regards to this fight - IT'S ON! What - tarik is gonna get up there are say "I have an announcement - Ozkan and Zam are not gonna fight each other" LOL!! He would look like a goose and would be a waste of time.

The only question for me that needs to be answered is the date, probably late 03 id say.

Zam is extremelly talented, but I think the size difference will be too much. Sure, Stan was much bigger than Ozkan - But Stan was shot and shouldnt have been anywhere near a ring, Ozkan obviously isnt.

Im hoping for Zam, but I think Ozkan may be too strong down the stretch with genuine size and strength advantages.

[JANER]

where have you been man!? There was a thread which was 6 pages long... and read over 1500 times. Unfortunately some ****a ruined it for all and then admin had seen enough and deleted it.

Ozkan is tooo big, and far tooo strong. Gurkan will play with Zam and you will see Zam for the first time flat on the floor...

Edited by - janer on 03 Apr 2003 18:37:46

[Tony S]

Yea but it was deleted.

That thread was based on rumour tho. The fight has basically now been announced!

Time to get the discussion going again!

[Pete M]

i'd have to say ozkan
to strong to tough way to tough


toughtest SOB out there

[sethridge]

I dont like ozkan but in my personal and serious oppinion I think OZKAN would win.... Too Strong, Very Fit,and very hard puncher perhaps the strongest puncher zam has ever faced...... if anyone could beat zam under kickboxing rules it would have to be ozkan!! under K1 rules JWP and DAWSON....

[krama]

Janer - question is - has Ozkan received solid hits like the ones Zam thows? consistently and in abundance? -
Remember Zams defence is as tight as a nuns arsehole during communion so it will be hard to actually get a decent punch in there - and don't forget Zam is a very intelligent fighter -
After watching Ozkan against Grandpa Stan - I believe it will be close - I dont think Zam will be completely Ko'd though, maybe a TKO if that.

[Dynamite Drew]

Krama

To answer your question yes Gurkan has fought a fighter who was very good with his hands - Mark May

They fought when Gurkan was amateur world champion

Mark won the first fight in Sydney on points and Gurkan won the rematch in Melbourne on points.

Mark May was an accomplished boxer as well as kickboxer and narrowly missed going to Atlanta olympics for boxing

Both their fights went the distance , so a total of 14 rounds , and there was only one knockdown - Mark was knockdowned in the rematch in melbourne .
Some believed it was a slip ( including Mark) but the ref called a knockdown so hence its recorded as a knockdown.

Cheers
Drew



We who are truely brave will never live in fear!

Edited by - Dynamite Drew on 05 Apr 2003 13:34:29

[krama]

Drew - you are right - May was one tough nut!!

He was great to watch

Janer my man - I would have to disagree with the comment that Ozkan will play with Zam - Zam has taken on a number of World champs around the globe, many of them 6ft + tall and disposed of them with ease -
you need to take into account Stan Longinides comments on Zams punching power, from a bloke who has fought at K1 heavyweight level, stating Zam hits like a heavyweight, and then having Zam back that up - it will not be an easy slog for Ozkan
I respect both fighters immensely, so I just hope they have a solid non contraversial fight, to end on points, no one hurt and to remain good buddies afterwards.

"Adriaaaaaaaan!! - " (Stalone - Rocky 1,2,3,4,5,6,7,8,9,10,11,and Grandpa edition)

[harls]

I think Ozkan will have real trouble with Zambidis. I think Zam will get in close and unleash flurries of punches and Gurkan won't be able to keep him away. Also with Ozkan taking on bigger opponents lately, I don't think he be used to Zam's speed, unless he fights some quick buggers before the bout.

[Servant1]

How are use kiddiding ozkan is to fit for iron mike. I havent seen a fiter fighther than mike for years he will litruly run rings around ozkan he is fit and ready!!!!!

Once mike unleashes those powerfull punching combos ozkan wont now what hit him, his difeence is exellent he can punch and kick sorry to burst all ure babble but ozkan is hitting the canvas!!!!

Ozkan may think he can kick but he can think all he whants HE CANT KICK FOR **** with those chicken legs of his.

Iron mike is going to b all over him like a cheap suit and its going to b goodnight iren for chicken leg ozkan.

SUPERKICK

[krama]

Superkick - maybe you can teach Ozkan and train him up in the leg kicking department - so he can throw a few 'superkicks' himself

Zam will not win this fight convincingly - and this is coming from a massive ZAM fan - my top three fighters at the moment are ZAM, JWP,OZKAN
for me it will be a tough fight to watch as I respect both fighters immensely,
unfortunately Supa-spinning heal- kick you are falling into the Ozkan cant fight for **** bandwagon - he has proven his doubtors wrong many times before - never underestimate ozkan - especially now that he has teamed up with the legendary Fiefield.
Lets hope Tarik - I'm sorry - GOD - doesnt jump in and decide the outcome - remember he is a 4th dan black belt in SUPAKICK Taekwondo - and could kick the crap out of both ZAM and Ozkan while wearing his Armani suit and 2000 dollar shoes that we paid for.

[SDM]

This will be one of the best fights seen in a fair while if it goes the way it should (without any dodgy hiccups or interruptions from Tarik-GOD) Gurkan to win, though i wouldn't say easily.

[ShinSlinger]

My prediction...just a bit of fun, no offence to those mentioned.

It's nearing the end of the fourth round, both fighters have given it their all and taken a tremendous amout of punishment. The bell rings and the boys are still swinging and have not heard the bell, Ozkan accidentially elbows Zam in the head, and Zam is down, blood splattered over the canvas in quantities rarely seen before. Stan storms the ring and KO's Ozkan with one single hook to the head. Sam Greco, who is in Zam's corner then jumps the ropes and KO's Stan with two straight punches to the head. Dropped him like a sack of potatoes. Tarik then enters the ring and anounces his next supershow...Zam V's Ozkan, Sam V's Stan and Tarik V's Lucy Tui...the 30,000 seat venue is sold out within an hour of the tickets going on sale, even the $2000 ringside tickets are all gone within this time. The supershow was a total success and Tarik is never heard from again.

PS: No offence to Ozkan and his many fans...the story just flowed better that way...

[da GhOsT]

eheheehehe.....shinslinger you should take over schiavello's place in commentating<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> what a pisser!!!1

[ozkan_the_second]

i reckon its gonna be a great fight and i reckon that ozkan will come out on top. ozkan has the style to come out strong and zambidis will have the momentum to revenge for stan - it'll be a close fight but i got the money on gurkan

You have just been hit with the Big Bok Choy by the SuPrEmE fIgHtIng MaChInE!

[The Rhino]

Hey Dynamite Drew...are you the same guy who fought against the Thai on the undercard of The Crowning back in 1995?

Regards
Michael

[bambam]

This is why aussie kickboxing is never going to get anywhere. Look at boxing on a whole. It stands head and shoulders above aussie kickboxing in the proffessionalism stakes. Imagine if we saw a bloody middleweight boxer running around all weight division fighting everyone, it would not be allowed. What is he trying to prove. He is the best fighter, maybe he is, that he has balls of steel, definitely. If Ozkan beats everyone and gets a world title . Which division would he take it out in . Or shall we just make up a division. This cheapens the sport. We need to be governed by an independant international rep from a sanctioning body. Not just by the promoter. Their are ranking systems in place but with lack of orginisation we never see the end result a true champion. All we see is a "guy who`s beaten him who lost to that guy but was knocked out by him but he was over the hill......." so on and so.
Just say for argument sake say Ozkan fought stan and Ozkan was killed or brain damaged as a result of weight difference. Where would that leave our sport in the public eye. It is not worth putting our fighters and sport at risk.
I believe Ozkan should do it like such greats as Jones Jnr spend the time and do it properly.

[Roids]

Ozkans style is custom made for zam.
Ozkan is a brawler and will try to throw down with zam and will get KO'ed!

He will open himself up for zams vicious shots,and i dont see him taking them for long.
Zam is phenominal puncher,whos skill and power are far superior to gurkan who is more of a brawler than a skilled puncher.

[paul c]

I really think that Fyfield has managed to tame Ozkan's fight style, but maintain his workrate.

What do the rest of you guys reckon, think back to the last time you saw him brawl.

For me it was pretty much gone at the Tsakonas fight.

[ShinSlinger]

BamBam,

Yes it is a bit of a joke. Why can't they just import the best in their weight range from around the world for a fight?

Well, as usual it all comes down to money. The promoter can get more money from putting on Zam V'd Ozkan as both fighter have a really good following in Aus, and you just know that this will be a war for as long as it lasts. Bringing in a world ranked import at their weight, and even though the fight may be just as good or better, not many people outside of kickboxing fanantic will know the fighter, and hence will see a reduction in ticket sales.

The promoter has no interest in the weight difference between the fighter, they just want to put on the fight that the fans want to see (and therefore make more money). The fighter need to earn a living, so they will take the fight....Catch 22 really...fighters need an income, promoters need fighters...

ShinSlinger

[bambam]

Good point shinslinger but also what about creating a following for a group of excellent fighters vs the rest of the world. Have imports fight on x amount of shows per year allowing fans see the progression of a few aussie fighters regularly, like a team. I think this may attract people who dont know much about the sport if it is promoted properly. For example in introduce a quality ranking system and advertise it on the bill. Eg Australias Gurkan Ozkan No6 Wkbf , No 4 Iska Vs Americas Joe Blogs No 4 Wkbf, No 2 Iska. Promote the aussies through mainstream media through say, four fights a year. Promote Zam the exact same way. With a year of this type of progression( and let people know about the progression)people will no exactly how fighters are getting there shot. People love ladders and ranking then at the end of year OZKAN V ZAMBIDIS. The team people were coming out to see take on the world are going to get it on.HOLY ****!! What do you think??

[ShinSlinger]

BamBam,

I am all for what you are saying 100%. But from a promotional point of view the expenses would be enourmous for that type of promotion. Say 5 internationals fighters and 5 trainers, airfaires, accomadation and fees to fight...huge dollars. Why would you pay all this (and not get that new Monaro because you just paid for 10 guys to have a holiday)when you can get local guys to do the same job?

What you are saying is great as long as the promoter is prepaired to put everything on the line, and considers it a long term investment, but unfotunatly, promoter also need to earn a living and pay their bills.

Any K/B promoters out their like to comment?????

[ozkan_the_second]

gurkan is a smarter fighter now - he can hit hard - he can do the damage. zambidis is small and quick, and also has a lot of power. but gurkan is the better man and i agree with Janer - gurkan will play around with zambidis for a few rounds and sit him on his arse!

You have just been hit with the Big Bok Choy by the SuPrEmE fIgHtIng MaChInE!

[Servant1]

Ozkan_the_second i think u have over looked a few things iron mike is stronger, fitter and a smarter fighter than ozkan his deffence is exellent and has an other advantige HE CAN KICK, wich i have said before ozcan may think he can kick, but he can think all he wants he cant kick for ****!!!!

No doubt it will be a good fight but sorry to say ozkan wont have time to play with iron mike cos ozkan will get k.o with in the first three rounds.

Lets just hope polatics dont get in the middle of all this and we end up seeing a good clean and fair fight.

If the fight goes as it should no doubt iron mike will be victorios!!!!

[ozkan_the_second]

superkick - i think u are wrong. know hard feelings or anything. but i havent underestimated zambidis. i believe he is a great fighter but im only supporting gurkan cos he is my idol and hero - he will win!!

You have just been hit with the Big Bok Choy by the SuPrEmE fIgHtIng MaChInE!

[ozkan_the_second]

in some ways superkick i do agree with u. im not going to say anything in reply to u saying gurkan cant kick. my defence would be well look at him and stan - people will just start saying that stan was out of it - gurkan probably can kick - it doesnt matter about who has better shots - its gunna be a great fight!




You have just been hit with the Big Bok Choy by the SuPrEmE fIgHtIng MaChInE!

[Glenn]

Not that I'm a big fan of either, but one point I'd like to make is that Ozkan didn't get ko'd by Briggs and Briggs punches a lot harder than Zambidis.

[ozkan_the_second]

hey glenn - i totally agree. i wonder what the critics are gonna say to that one? lolz



You have just been hit with the Big Bok Choy by the SuPrEmE fIgHtIng MaChInE!

[sethridge]

ozkan lose the silly quote.. i know your only 7 and might think it looks cool,but NEWSFLASH it doesnt..

[sirbillyg]

in the words of mike tyson
zambidis defence is impregnable his gonna eat ur children
ahahha lol jk
gonna b a great fight


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[Adam Houlahan]

Hello everyone. Zam is shorter than me! and I've been the butt of too many short guy jokes. So, aside the obvoius height difference, there is the difference in weight. Does anyone have an idea of what weight division this would be held at?. Whos going up or whos going down?
Aggressor

[paul c]

The general theory seems to be that Zam will come up to about 73-75 and Ozkan about 80.

Personally, Ozkan has freaked me out far too often. I reckon he'll probably step in at around 77. Just cause I think he'll want to be able to try and keep up with Zam's speed.

[mehmet]

i think gurkan will be to big for zambo

[VICEROY]

THE GREEK LEGEND WILL KO

[remy]

Ozkan has fought most his career at supermiddleweight so i would be surprised if he came in heavier than 78kg especially against Zam.