Parr V Zambidis 2

[upacut]

Has any one heard of a rematch schedualed for 23/2/2008? a friend of mine said he heard this on SEN1116 radio station in Melbourne last night, Barry Michael was talking on the station and confirmed it.

[ChrisQ]

Any idea on where?

*crosses fingers* Melbourne!!

[admin]

No, that is incorrect... Barry would have heard Tarik mention Sunday night that Feb 23 2008 is the next big Vodafone Arena show and Zambo WILL be on it but the opponent is NOT yet confirmed... there are a few names being thrown around, among them is PARR and also ABDALLAH MABEL (who broke Ozkan's arm in Turkey and broke Kara Murat's nose in Cyprus).

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[JWP]

?????????
Nope, no nothing about it.
Good luck to Parr though if it happens.

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[upacut]

That is what was on the radio last night, would be good to see happen again. Good luck to Parr too :)

[admin]

Hahah... yeah go J-Dubya!!

But yeah, you wouldn't have heard yet, as I said just a few names being "thrown" around... will see what happens over next few months.

You'll be seeing all the six shows from Cyrpus on Fox soon folks... some very good fights in there and this new heavyweight Tarik has found, Patrice Qauterone of France -- wow -- 200cm and powerful... very impressive even if he is a bit if a nutter!

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[allanf]

Yes Patrice Qauteron is a animal and knocked out all of his 4 opponents easily, some awesome fights happened in Cyprus the viewers will be happy.

Admin also forgot to mention Abduallah Mabel last year put Senol Kiziltas to sleep in the ring looked really bad and also reached the semi finals of the A-1 only to lose in a close 1 to the favourite and winner Fahrid Villaume, now Gurkan Ozkan is out for revenge Novemeber 1st in Turkey against Mabel which looks to be a very dangerous but the biggest fight for Ozkan yet.

Last time out Abdullah Mabel broke Gurkans arms and the fight had to be stopped in the 2nd round, Ozkan hasnt fought since that fight.

[P-DYNAMO]

Parr vs Zambidis 2 would be one i'd love to see..Maybe JWP will win "again"<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>
Gem

[Bushi]

Parr v Zambo 2...

How about we get some Queensland Judges this time ?? <img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Big pay day tho if it happens..

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[upacut]

That is what was on the radio last night, would be good to see happen again. Good luck to Parr too :)

[admin]

Yep AllanF, Mabel is excellent, tough tough rematch for Gurkan... also we may see Willy Borel vs Jenk Behic... Jenk had two great fights in Cyprus, though he was hard done by not to get the decision against Stam Bitakos in three rounds (it took two extensions for Jenk to get it).

Also, how about Azat Anneyev? Devastating back kicks... he looks like A-1's answer to Badr Hari.

Also interesting to see A-1 tournament runner-up YOHAN LIDON of France call out WAYNE PARR, BRUCE MACFIE and MIKE ZAMBIDIS in Cyprus... Lidon vs Bruce would be fantastic.

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[allanf]

Willy Borel is a pocket Dynamo reminds me of Mike Zambidis and it will be a big fight for Jenk behic. The fight against Bitakos was the fight of the night Jenk really impressed and fought very brave.

Admin, Azat Anyev the guy can kick he has great technique and can really fight, it will be good to see him fight hear in Australia as he is really enjoyable to watch.

Yohan Lidon = champion, the guy can fight and i hope Tarik Solak brings him down hear to Melbourne to face 1 of our boys.

[Bushi]

quote: Also interesting to see A-1 tournament runner-up YOHAN LIDON of France call out WAYNE PARR, BRUCE MACFIE and MIKE ZAMBIDIS in Cyprus... Lidon vs Bruce would be fantastic.



Under what rules, cos you have 1 of the worlds best kickboxers and 2 of the worlds best FTR exponents ??

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[Hironaka]

quote:
quote: Also interesting to see A-1 tournament runner-up YOHAN LIDON of France call out WAYNE PARR, BRUCE MACFIE and MIKE ZAMBIDIS in Cyprus... Lidon vs Bruce would be fantastic.



Under what rules, cos you have 1 of the worlds best kickboxers and 2 of the worlds best FTR exponents ??


Probably either. Lindo is fighting Lamsongkram for WBC middleweight title in September.

[perrycale]

Get Cung Lee down here ASAP , i watched the undercard of Elite XC of Baroni vs Shamrock, this guy was amazing & his triumph in his personal life is even more inspiring.

He beat up former UFC fighter Tony Frickland in his fight that he made Fricklands dog Retarted ! <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Im here to kill you -next time keep that chain letter going!!!

[Hironaka]

quote:
Get Cung Lee down here ASAP , i watched the undercard of Elite XC of Baroni vs Shamrock, this guy was amazing & his triumph in his personal life is even more inspiring.

He beat up former UFC fighter Tony Frickland in his fight that he made Fricklands dog Retarted ! <img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Im here to kill you -next time keep that chain letter going!!!


I rarely will call work on anything, but I have no doubt in my mind that fight was complete work.

[perrycale]

I rarely will call work on anything, but I have no doubt in my mind that fight was complete work.


[/quote]

If thats a work they should both be in the WWE , nevertheless it looked great.



Im here to kill you -next time keep that chain letter going!!!

[U.LOCO]

Zambo will not be on any of Tariks shows,not now not never.

"WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING IT'S JUST THE ONLYTHING THAT MATTERS"

[Hironaka]

quote:
If thats a work they should both be in the WWE , nevertheless it looked great.


Have you seen much of Tony Fryklund before? Certainly not A-Grade quality fighter, but he is much better than that. I personally found that fight embarrassing to watch.

[rushshah]

Tony Fryklund never tryed to take him to the ground but other than that cung lee is highly entertaining considering hes only had 3 mma fights.

It will be intresting to see what cung lee is able to do on the ground, potentionaly could have the best takedowns in the sport.

[johnny_619]

quote:
Zambo will not be on any of Tariks shows,not now not never.

"WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING IT'S JUST THE ONLYTHING THAT MATTERS"


Yes he will, once his k1 season is over.

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[P-DYNAMO]

It will be good to see Zambo back in Oz..Like him or not he is a very entertaining fighter and can realy pull a crowd..

[wildaction]

Would love to see Zambo back here again.....

Zambo v Parr 1 = Zambo win !! (fair and square!!)

It would be fantastic if the rematch happened ....and tough one to pick!!

Stu.

[imported_n/a]

quote:Zambo v Parr 1 = Zambo win !! (fair and square!!)
Only if you were standing on your head, looking the other way.

Russ
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[imported_n/a]

quote:


Would love to see Zambo back here again.....

Zambo v Parr 1 = Zambo win !! (fair and square!!)

It would be fantastic if the rematch happened ....and tough one to pick!!

Stu.




Stu,

If you think that was a clear win then you do not know the rules that were in force at the time. Total ownage by JWP in the grapple and knee department (blocking knees with your forearms is not a defence and those knees score high), pretty even in the kick department and Zambo slightly winning in the hand department equals win to JWP or if you were generous a draw with an extension round.

Zambo's supporters continually score that fight like a KB fight when in reality the K-1 rules at the time were closer to MT rules and thus JWP won quite well.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 03 Aug 2007 16:32:11

[Random]

The Bias Judges had to be greeks

[RE]

Keep crying about the decision <img src=icon_smile_sad.gif border=0 align=middle> but Zambidis came to fight and got the decision. Maybe they'll meet in the K-1Max one day, Oh forgot JWP is not in the Max.

[johnny_619]

quote:
The Bias Judges had to be greeks




It was part of the bias future development program



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[wildaction]

Hi guys (pira , russ) .....

It's understanable that you see it the way you do as you are both big JWP fans and actually so am I ..big fan! but I attended the fight and watched it about a hundred times on dvd etc and yes JWP did throw a lot of knees and under K1 rules they would certainly score very highly , BUT after watching the dvd again and again and again it became evident that a "LOT" of knees just never landed at all...but they "looked" great ( ...if a boxer throws a punch and it doesn't land , he doesn't get scored etc etc), Zambidis totally outscored JWP with hands in a big way ...and had him totally rocked towards the end of the first round (the opposite never happened during the 3 rounds) . Don't get me wrong I would LOVED to have seen an extra round , I think we all would on the night as it was a ball tearer of a fight , but Zambidis got a close decision , personally I thought it was a good decision but not one that everyone would agree with , end of the day it has set up probably the most anticipated rematch in years in australia ...lets all keep our fingers crossed that it does happens someday !! and best of luck to both boys if it does , they are BOTH champions .....and we are the actual winners on the day !!!!

Stuart .

[RE]

Well said Wildaction.

[Hironaka]

No it's not a great response.

At the end of the day, with the rules it was under Zambidis won that fight.

[John K]

quote:
quote:


Would love to see Zambo back here again.....

Zambo v Parr 1 = Zambo win !! (fair and square!!)

It would be fantastic if the rematch happened ....and tough one to pick!!

Stu.




Stu,

If you think that was a clear win then you do not know the rules that were in force at the time. Total ownage by JWP in the grapple and knee department (blocking knees with your forearms is not a defence and those knees score high), pretty even in the kick department and Zambo slightly winning in the hand department equals win to JWP or if you were generous a draw with an extension round.

Zambo's supporters continually score that fight like a KB fight when in reality the K-1 rules at the time were closer to MT rules and thus JWP won quite well.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 03 Aug 2007 16:32:11


K-1 was never scored like a MT fight. K-1 scorig never gave preference to grappling and knees. This is a fabrication made up by some people to justify their complaining about the decision.

[Hitman]

Zambidis vs Mabel! PHOAWWWWWWWW WHAT A MATCH!!!

the bigger they are the harder they fall.

[sniper]

i personally think willy borel would be a better match with zambo. he would be up mabel in my opinion. nice guy though!!!

[johnny_619]

If Mike Zambidis was asked what fight he would want if he came to Australia, in my opinion, it would be against JWP.

If you ask Mabel, he'd want to fight the world at the minute.





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[Turkmen]

Parr beat zambidis fair and square.. and as for mabel, he was playying with kara murat, he absolutely demolished him, zambidis beat him on split points decision.

[allanf]

Kara Murat aiint nothing special anyway, he cant punch he cant kick he just has good movement.

[Zambo Rambo]

quote:
Parr beat zambidis fair and square.. and as for mabel, he was playying with kara murat, he absolutely demolished him, zambidis beat him on split points decision.




Sorry to disappoint you but Mike Zambidis beat Parr!

Look Winner!
http://img221.imageshack.us/img221/5334/k1maxzamvparria8.jpg

and

Mike Zambidis beat Kara Murat on both occasions by
UNANIMOUS POINTS DECISION!

Winner in Greece!
http://img169.imageshack.us/img169/6319/zamvmurat11ng8.jpg

Winner in Australia!
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/4431/zamvkaramelbbf5.jpg

Next Please! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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www.ironmikezambidis.com

[Axekick157]

Arrrgggghhh but he never got to beat Mike Cope or Harry Potter <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

[johnny_619]

Who is Mabel? What has he done? He got in the final and lost to Villaume who is an A grade fighter.

Maybe Villaume against Zambidis, but thats made for Europe. Maybe in Athens next year.

If Mike fights here as I said, there is only 1 person the people want to see him fight.



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[atlas06]

If Zambidies took the fight no doubt he wouldnt want knees,if thats the case Parr should forget about a rematch! Parrs been the more active of the 2 and has many other fight options anyway!Let Zambidies continue to fight these old school kcikboxers.

OG

[Zambo Rambo]

quote:
If Zambidies took the fight no doubt he wouldnt want knees,if thats the case Parr should forget about a rematch! Parrs been the more active of the 2 and has many other fight options anyway!Let Zambidies continue to fight these old school kcikboxers.

OG


If JWP took the fight no doubt he would want knees!

That's great to see JWP fight Tom, **** and Harry!
The more fights, the more money for him!

Mike ZAMBIDIS (not Zambidies) is concentrating to win this Years
K-1 World Max Championship and when your contracted to them (The K-1), you don't really need to worry about fighting anyone else in between. Good Money and Good Sponsors!

I'm sure JWP would love to have been apart of the K-1 this Year! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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www.ironmikezambidis.com

[RE]

Mike fights the best of the best in the world as only the best fight in the "K-1" and incase your not fimilar with K-1 it is with knees. Its funny how Mabel is now the man to beat Zambidis, first it was Nezif, Ozkan, Jenk and Murat now Mabel. I guess the anti Zambo fans need a hero to :)

[Bushi]

quote: and incase your not fimilar with K-1 it is with knees

I'd disagree...

They say it's with knees, but they really don't "allow" them...except for the odd flying knee..

You grapple, 1 knee then they break it..so i'd hardly call ti "with knees".. Mod Thai is with knee's K1 isn't..

Just MHO..

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[harls]

quote:

Maybe Villaume against Zambidis, but thats made for Europe. Maybe in Athens next year.



This would be a great fight(almost as good as a Villuame v JWP match up). However I think Villuame would beat Zambidis to within an inch of his life.



"Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience."

[harls]

As for the "K-1 rules", I agree bushi.

These rules certainly favour kickboxers as it is basically kickboxing with very limited knees and grappling. The amount of points I seen taken off Thai stylists who unconsciously violate the rules renders the use of knees almost pointless. Waste of time in my opinion, as it is not a happy medium for KB and MT stylists.

MOD Thai is still the best compromise if these two, Zam and JWP, were to meet again.



"Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience."

[Kano]

Hey Harls,
Had to laugh at the K1 rules on saturday night... continual kneeing

I would love to see Parr V Zambidis 2, I hope it does happen, and I hope it happens in Melbourne, which it most likely would if Tarik promotes it.

[berzerker]

quote:
I would love to see Parr V Zambidis 2, I hope it does happen, and I hope it happens in Melbourne, which it most likely would if Tarik promotes it.




and jwp will most likely get ripped off there again...just a shame they can't hold this fight in jwp home state...or on neutral ground in nsw

"A man can't stand, he can't fight!"

[allanf]

all this talk comon Tarik just organise this fight for the fans, JWP V Zambidis and then the real winner can be settled.

[harls]

Hey Kano,

Your right about the continual kneeing in the k-1 rules fight last night. In defence of the ref though, it was officially listed as a Mod Thai fight and not a k-1 rules fight(big difference). The first time everyone I spoke to knew of it being a k-1 fight(including myself), was just before the fighters touched gloves. The result would have been the same anyway for either set of rules. I also didn't think k-1 rules were allowed on wmc shows..


Back on topic, I think JWP would get the nod if these two faced again..



"Never Argue With The Ignorant Because They Will Simply Pull You Down To Their Level And Beat You With Experience."

Edited by - harls on 05 Aug 2007 23:20:05

[johnny_619]

Just to set the record straight, Mike wants the fight...best rules to decide it, k1.

Kickboxing fans can argue, the old K1 was pro-thai without elbows. All the thai fighters that where against Mike, used the clinch as a defence and good technique, but no doubt, it was abused and didnt allow for a quick impact 3 by 3m fight. The worst abuser was Kohi. K1 didnt like that. K1 likes a big of action, a bit of a KO, the fans like it.

Now, it incorporates all the skills and doesnt favour one or the other. Bukaw, Kraus and Masato have changed their styles for this, no doubt every fighter needs to base their style around them. Thats why Mike had to learn more knee techniques when he went to k1.

And yes, JWP will get ripped off in Australia, he will fly 2 hours for the fight compared to Mikes 28 hour flight. Why not have the rematch in Greece? The first fight was in Australia

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[atlas06]

As mentioned by the other guys K1 rules could hardly be called proper incorporated knee fighting,at best maybe one knee before the grapple is broken or the big "Hollywood" flying knee!

OG

[RE]

I think K-1 rules are more exciting. K-1 like A-1 is all about keeping the action flowing and mod thai can really be draining to watch. Also we all know Mike is a Kickboxer, K-1 fighter why should he fight mod thai etc.

[johnny_619]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYvmWNhDcJU

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Edited by - johnny_619 on 08 Aug 2007 00:28:58

Edited by - johnny_619 on 08 Aug 2007 00:31:23

[SPADA]

quote:first it was Nezif, Ozkan, Jenk and Murat now Mabel

Kader Marouf ????

Remember .... He came out to Australia to " DESTROY " Mike Zambidis.
I guess Kader must have had second thoughts ???? hehehe

cheers Spada

[Rocky]

JWP hasnt really done anything good or improved the last 2-3 years since his loss to Zambo.

Zambo will beat JWP on points if 3 rounds. And will get a knockout if its a 10 rounder.

[imported_n/a]

quote:
JWP hasnt really done anything good or improved the last 2-3 years since his loss to Zambo.

Zambo will beat JWP on points if 3 rounds. And will get a knockout if its a 10 rounder.




LOL - might want to check your facts there son. Has only cleaned up his entire backyard, won S-1, fought numerous big Thai names.

[Zambo Rambo]

He's probably talking about the bad patch JWP
had when he LOST Four in a row!

Yodsaenklai - December 05
Wakeling - March 06
Oomsin - April 06
Wanlop - June 06

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[imported_n/a]

Couple of big names, WBC world champ, also some controversy.

I don't think I would call it a bad patch when you take on the best in the world.

Quentin
The Ad-man
International Kickboxer Magazine

[imported_n/a]

quote:
He's probably talking about the bad patch JWP
had when he LOST Four in a row!

Yodsaenklai - December 05
Wakeling - March 06
Oomsin - April 06
Wanlop - June 06

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com


Yep - all world renowned opponents there.

The key factor is stepping out of the comfort zone - JWP has fought and beat quality opponents in a variety of formats (shootboxing, boxing, Muay Thai, kickboxing and K-1) and it seems everyone expects him to come to their format - why is it JWP must come down in weapons, why not ask the question why not move out of the comfort zone and come up in weapons to meet him?

[DazMon]

quote: Your right about the continual kneeing in the k-1 rules fight last night. In defence of the ref though, it was officially listed as a Mod Thai fight and not a k-1 rules fight(big difference). The first time everyone I spoke to knew of it being a k-1 fight(including myself), was just before the fighters touched gloves. The result would have been the same anyway for either set of rules. I also didn't think k-1 rules were allowed on wmc shows..

Thanks Harls.
That fight was very hard to control.

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[Bushi]

Best thing I've read from you in ages Paul...(since the splashing eyes in the water)..<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

Normally the sign of a TRUE champ is someone who "steps up"..

JWP = TRUE CHAMP

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[berzerker]

quote:
Yep - all world renowned opponents there.

The key factor is stepping out of the comfort zone - JWP has fought and beat quality opponents in a variety of formats (shootboxing, boxing, Muay Thai, kickboxing and K-1) and it seems everyone expects him to come to their format - why is it JWP must come down in weapons, why not ask the question why not move out of the comfort zone and come up in weapons to meet him?






cause not everyone has the balls or heart to do what jwp has done...the guy is a true warrior

he is one guy that you can never say was afraid to fight anyone anywhere under any rules.



"A man can't stand, he can't fight!"

[berzerker]

quote:
JWP hasnt really done anything good or improved the last 2-3 years since his loss to Zambo.

Zambo will beat JWP on points if 3 rounds. And will get a knockout if its a 10 rounder.




you are a tool if you really consider jwp hasn't improved in the last 2-3 years...yeh he may not have won as many fights but that doesn't mean he hasn't improved...just look at the calibre of fighters he has battled...every fight has gone the distance.

and it's a dumb argument by saying that zam would ko jwp if it was a 10 rounder...i could turn around and say jwp would carve up zam if it was a 5 rounder FT fight but that's dumb.

i'm sure if jwp was offered a fight with zam in a 10 rounder i would bet he would take it (if the purse was right of course) but flip the coin around the other way i'm sure zam prob wouldn't take a 5 rounder FT fight with jwp.

at the end of the day, we as fans should be grateful if these 2 guys ever get it on again...

"A man can't stand, he can't fight!"

[imported_n/a]

quote:(since the splashing eyes in the water)..<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>.

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi







Farkkkk - that's hardcore Bushi. You take the eyes out and splash the water with them?<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

[Bushi]

quote: i'm sure if jwp was offered a fight with zam in a 10 rounder i would bet he would take it (if the purse was right of course) but flip the coin around the other way i'm sure zam prob wouldn't take a 5 rounder FT fight with jwp.



END OF ARGUEMENT....well said berzerker..

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[wildaction]

Well firstly ...ONLY the fighters themselves would decide if they would take the fight under FTR rules or 10 Rounder rules , and let's be perfectly and brutally honest ...they would BOTH beat each other under their own preferred rules !

They are both great champions/great fighters and could certainly beat each other on the day ...end of story really!

Stu.

[RE]

quote:

i'm sure if jwp was offered a fight with zam in a 10 rounder i would bet he would take it (if the purse was right of course) but flip the coin around the other way i'm sure zam prob wouldn't take a 5 rounder FT fight with jwp.



No he wouldnt want to fight JWP but will fight Buakaw,Souwer and anyone else but not JWP!!

[johnny_619]

Why is the same issue being bought up? FT or KB. It's K1 thats the fair and square rules.

I think what they meant was a 10 round K1 fight, thats the universal rules.

Although has anyone ever asked Zambo what he thinks of a fight with JWP under thai rules? I know someone has asked him that before. Mike has never backed down from a fight and takes on the worlds best in K1.

If the K1 favours mostly kickboxers, name all the finalists who are of a kickboxing background?

Mike has fought mod-thai, K1, kickboxing and boxing, so he has evolved as a fighter.

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[nagas]

Why would Zambidis fight anyone under FT rules? he has'nt had 1 fight under FT rules, let alone to take on Australias best FT fighter those are really stupid comments.
Like Johnny said they are both K1 fighters so it's logical that they fight K1 rules. Im suprised noone has thrown in MMA rules where they're both out of their comfort zones. A 10 rounder K1 rules would be awesome, both these guys are great fighters and like you guys said the $$$ gotta be worthwhile.

"Alex your drunk & he's you brother"
"yes im drunk, tommorrow i'll be sober, but he'll always be a fag*ot" Van Damme

[imported_n/a]

quote:
Why is the same issue being bought up? FT or KB. It's K1 thats the fair and square rules.

I think what they meant was a 10 round K1 fight, thats the universal rules.

Although has anyone ever asked Zambo what he thinks of a fight with JWP under thai rules? I know someone has asked him that before. Mike has never backed down from a fight and takes on the worlds best in K1.

If the K1 favours mostly kickboxers, name all the finalists who are of a kickboxing background?

Mike has fought mod-thai, K1, kickboxing and boxing, so he has evolved as a fighter.

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Zambidis has not fought Mod Thai to my knowledge and has never fought in any established boxing bout that is verifiable.

All of the finalists in K-1 share one thing in common - they do not compete in Muay Thai bouts whilst engaging in K-1 - except JWP. please name one that currently engages in Muay Thai bouts?
JWP has not failed to answer any challenge from up and coming Muay Thai fighters whilst also engaging in S-1 and K-1 rules bouts. One of the reasons why he is not in K-1 - he will not sign exclusivity contracts that would effectively prevent him from engaging in his core sport.

[imported_n/a]

quote:
Why would Zambidis fight anyone under FT rules? he has'nt had 1 fight under FT rules, let alone to take on Australias best FT fighter those are really stupid comments.
Like Johnny said they are both K1 fighters so it's logical that they fight K1 rules. Im suprised noone has thrown in MMA rules where they're both out of their comfort zones. A 10 rounder K1 rules would be awesome, both these guys are great fighters and like you guys said the $$$ gotta be worthwhile.

"Alex your drunk & he's you brother"
"yes im drunk, tommorrow i'll be sober, but he'll always be a fag*ot" Van Damme


JWP has fought MMA rules, shooto, Muay Thai, KB and K-1. He has regularly stepped out of his comfort zone - when might Zambidis? Or is fighting Gurkan in KB the limit?

[Hooky]

quote:
JWP has fought MMA rules, shooto, Muay Thai, KB and K-1. He has regularly stepped out of his comfort zone - when might Zambidis? Or is fighting Gurkan in KB the limit?


And boxing.

"Then, the doctor told me that BOTH my eyes were lazy! And that's why it was the best summer ever." - Ralph Wiggum

[Bushi]

quote: please name one that currently engages in Muay Thai bouts?

Baukaw when he won the WMC title 12 months or so ago, but I think that was probably his only recent FTR fight (oh and the one in Sweden recently, which SHOULD have been against JWP)

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[johnny_619]

Once upon a time,

When he was 11 he won his first Karate fight against, Aristos Poutsos in Athens.

When he was 15 he took on another sport and won a Greek title in boxing.

When he was 20, he finished the Greek army and was flown to a land far away and knoced out a world champion in kickboxing.

When he was 22 he went to a near by country called Italy and fought a THAI boxing tournament and knocked out a world champion Matteo Sciacca, sent Peter Polak into a deep sleep and became the king of the ring. He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.

When he was 23 he stepped out of his comfort zone again and went to another far away land and fought the current champion of the be and end all, K1. He Ko'd the world champion Albert Kraus.

To let you all know, Mike has developed and fougt out of the "comfort zone" many times. He lives in Greece and fights his big fights in different continents. Will anyone challenge him in Greece?

He wants to win the K1 and has prepared himself for this so he can reach his goal. Fighting in other forms of fighting for $$ or to prove a point is not what his aim is.

Maybe when his career is on the slide he can venture in MMA, or even snow boarding, who knows?

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Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!

[SPADA]

quote: He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.


I think that may be incorrect???
When Zambidis fought Wanlop for the " King Of The Ring " title,I am sure that was under kickboxing rules.

Not that it matters,cause the guy ( Zambidis ) can end the fight with a single shot.

cheers Spada

[Bushi]

Just not an elbow...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>, he's too short in the grapple @ 70kg anyway..

But I DO LOVE his flying knees... actually I LOVE his whole ring presence....just LOVE JWP's more..<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Anyway, here's hoping it IS a match made for Australia....it WILL BE THE MOST hyped fight in YEARS...

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[imported_n/a]

quote:
Once upon a time,

When he was 11 he won his first Karate fight against, Aristos Poutsos in Athens.

When he was 15 he took on another sport and won a Greek title in boxing.

When he was 20, he finished the Greek army and was flown to a land far away and knoced out a world champion in kickboxing.

When he was 22 he went to a near by country called Italy and fought a THAI boxing tournament and knocked out a world champion Matteo Sciacca, sent Peter Polak into a deep sleep and became the king of the ring. He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.

When he was 23 he stepped out of his comfort zone again and went to another far away land and fought the current champion of the be and end all, K1. He Ko'd the world champion Albert Kraus.

To let you all know, Mike has developed and fougt out of the "comfort zone" many times. He lives in Greece and fights his big fights in different continents. Will anyone challenge him in Greece?

He wants to win the K1 and has prepared himself for this so he can reach his goal. Fighting in other forms of fighting for $$ or to prove a point is not what his aim is.

Maybe when his career is on the slide he can venture in MMA, or even snow boarding, who knows?

-----------------------
Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!


LOL - lifted right off the fan page. Only a couple of problems - Greek boxing title? What title - no record of it in boxrec or AM records. Stack it up against Parr's Aust. title and fights against ranked world contenders. KOTR 2002 - no 5 x 3 Full Thai rules there and who was in it again?

Naming some small unverified tournament in that powerhouse of Muay Thai (Italy) does not stack up. Feel embaressed when measuring up against living and breathing in the world's home of Muay Thai and winning the King's Cup, green jacket, etc.

[wildaction]

Can't you guys just agree that BOTH these guys are excellent champions and fighters ...none of us have any idea who would win under K1 /Muay Thai..Kickboxing etc until these 2 guys walk back into the ring ....either one could end it in one punch !!!

It certainly will be no walk in the park for either one.

[imported_n/a]

quote:


Can't you guys just agree that BOTH these guys are excellent champions and fighters ...none of us have any idea who would win under K1 /Muay Thai..Kickboxing etc until these 2 guys walk back into the ring ....either one could end it in one punch !!!

It certainly will be no walk in the park for either one.




No we can't agree because that would be boring. There is nothing better than stirring a Zambo supporter.

No problems picking a winner in a MT bout - JWP all the way. Zambo can't grapple or elbow hence his preference for K-1. As for a K-1 bout that is a pickum but how about going all the way Zambo FTR or has Cope and JWP put you off for life?

[Zambo Rambo]

At the end of the day we all know Mike Zambidis came to AUSTRALIA as a 20 year old, 5ft nothing from Greece and beat, smashed, anilated, KO'ed nearly every opponent in sight apart from Mike Cope who was easily getting belted before he got a lucky knee to TKO Zambidis.

If anyone can say they beat Zambidis in Aus, it's Cope!
Every other fighter that got beat, just has to put it in there fightography!

17 fights for 16 wins and 12 KO's not bad hey for 'Iron' Mike Zambidis to do in far away land as Johnny say's.

Now, Mike Zambidis has a K-1 World Max Title to Win and it will
be done this Year 07!

Paul, i credit you for fighting Kara Murat!
one of a few fighters that took it up to Mike!

Peace!

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

Edited by - Zambo Rambo on 09 Aug 2007 15:23:22

[Voice]

what was really remarkable about Zambo was his ability to adapt to the K1 format...obviously it didn't help to have switched trainers several times, but you can visibly see his style change from the early days in Aus compared to recently in the K1.
One could even say he was a little naive in his approach to the JWP fight (no, this is not a criticism), simply attempting to kill JWP's lead leg but with no real defence to the grapple (if JWP didn't showboat quite as much in the final 30secs and pressed his advantage then it may have been a different result, hehe).

I guess this year is his best and final shot...we all know the patience level of the K1 bigwigs when it comes to the Max.

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Live long and prosper...

[John K]

quote:
quote:
Once upon a time,

When he was 11 he won his first Karate fight against, Aristos Poutsos in Athens.

When he was 15 he took on another sport and won a Greek title in boxing.

When he was 20, he finished the Greek army and was flown to a land far away and knoced out a world champion in kickboxing.

When he was 22 he went to a near by country called Italy and fought a THAI boxing tournament and knocked out a world champion Matteo Sciacca, sent Peter Polak into a deep sleep and became the king of the ring. He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.

When he was 23 he stepped out of his comfort zone again and went to another far away land and fought the current champion of the be and end all, K1. He Ko'd the world champion Albert Kraus.

To let you all know, Mike has developed and fougt out of the "comfort zone" many times. He lives in Greece and fights his big fights in different continents. Will anyone challenge him in Greece?

He wants to win the K1 and has prepared himself for this so he can reach his goal. Fighting in other forms of fighting for $$ or to prove a point is not what his aim is.

Maybe when his career is on the slide he can venture in MMA, or even snow boarding, who knows?

-----------------------
Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!


LOL - lifted right off the fan page. Only a couple of problems - Greek boxing title? What title - no record of it in boxrec or AM records. Stack it up against Parr's Aust. title and fights against ranked world contenders. KOTR 2002 - no 5 x 3 Full Thai rules there and who was in it again?

Naming some small unverified tournament in that powerhouse of Muay Thai (Italy) does not stack up. Feel embaressed when measuring up against living and breathing in the world's home of Muay Thai and winning the King's Cup, green jacket, etc.






It's amusing that you dump on everything Zambidis has done and achieved, yet on another thread you heap praise on a C-Level clubfighter for what a great fighter he is.
Is it some kind of mental deficiency that prevents some of you from liking Wayne Parr and Mike Zambidis at the same time? Do you think you are doing an injustice to your hero if you don't bag the other?
Where to begin? In this thread it's been stated Mike has never fought Mod Thai rules. Incorrect, he has. Twice. In Holland.
In this thread it's been stated JWP constantly "steps up" and Zambidis doesn't. Hmmm. A natural kickboxer becoming a K-1 fighter isn'y considered fighting out og your comfort zone? I remember 5 years ago guys like Pira Pira (not him specifically, but baggers like him) were saying Mike would never fight in K-1 because he was "scared" or he'd get "brutally knocked out". Zambidis is now more K-1 fighter than kickboxer. He went from a loss to Mike Cope to KO'ing established K-1 fighters in about 6 months. That's not stepping up?
Fighting Mod Thai against Dutch fighters in Holland. That's not stepping up?
Fighting guys up to 10kg heavier than him (a big deal in those lower weight divisions) isn't stepping up?
A regular competitor in K-1, 2 world kickboxing titles, a King Of The Ring tournament title and you guys act like he's accomplished nothing. Shame on you. The problem is, in your never ending quests to idolise JWP and dump on someone else, nothing is good enough unless it involes JWP himself, Muay Thai or Thailand. Nothing else is good enough. Our sport has apparently become that close minded. Heres something to stew on, in the one set of rules that could be described as a happy medium for these two (K-1 rules) Zambidis has the better record. Food for thought. Thought I'd add that since it's becoming fashionable to downplay everything the guy does.

Kind of on a different tangent here, but why is JWP regarded as a God because of that MMA bout? This is some sort of proof of his inhumane bravery and guts? Guys, it doesn't take a warrior to step into a fight he knows he is going to get destroyed in when the payday is that big. Hey, I'm not bagging the guy, that's called business sense. I'd do it, and so would anyone if the opportunity was there. Hell, Stephan Leko made a second career out of embarrassing himself in Pride in a series of 30 second to 1 minute losses for HUGE paydays. But give the warrior thing a break sometimes, it's good business, nothing else.
Remember that JWP once said he wouldn't fight Mike in a kickboxing bout, but if the $$$ were there, of course he would.

[imported_n/a]

quote:
quote:
quote:
Once upon a time,

When he was 11 he won his first Karate fight against, Aristos Poutsos in Athens.

When he was 15 he took on another sport and won a Greek title in boxing.

When he was 20, he finished the Greek army and was flown to a land far away and knoced out a world champion in kickboxing.

When he was 22 he went to a near by country called Italy and fought a THAI boxing tournament and knocked out a world champion Matteo Sciacca, sent Peter Polak into a deep sleep and became the king of the ring. He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.

When he was 23 he stepped out of his comfort zone again and went to another far away land and fought the current champion of the be and end all, K1. He Ko'd the world champion Albert Kraus.

To let you all know, Mike has developed and fougt out of the "comfort zone" many times. He lives in Greece and fights his big fights in different continents. Will anyone challenge him in Greece?

He wants to win the K1 and has prepared himself for this so he can reach his goal. Fighting in other forms of fighting for $$ or to prove a point is not what his aim is.

Maybe when his career is on the slide he can venture in MMA, or even snow boarding, who knows?

-----------------------
Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!


LOL - lifted right off the fan page. Only a couple of problems - Greek boxing title? What title - no record of it in boxrec or AM records. Stack it up against Parr's Aust. title and fights against ranked world contenders. KOTR 2002 - no 5 x 3 Full Thai rules there and who was in it again?

Naming some small unverified tournament in that powerhouse of Muay Thai (Italy) does not stack up. Feel embaressed when measuring up against living and breathing in the world's home of Muay Thai and winning the King's Cup, green jacket, etc.






It's amusing that you dump on everything Zambidis has done and achieved, yet on another thread you heap praise on a C-Level clubfighter for what a great fighter he is.
Is it some kind of mental deficiency that prevents some of you from liking Wayne Parr and Mike Zambidis at the same time? Do you think you are doing an injustice to your hero if you don't bag the other?
Where to begin? In this thread it's been stated Mike has never fought Mod Thai rules. Incorrect, he has. Twice. In Holland.
In this thread it's been stated JWP constantly "steps up" and Zambidis doesn't. Hmmm. A natural kickboxer becoming a K-1 fighter isn'y considered fighting out og your comfort zone? I remember 5 years ago guys like Pira Pira (not him specifically, but baggers like him) were saying Mike would never fight in K-1 because he was "scared" or he'd get "brutally knocked out". Zambidis is now more K-1 fighter than kickboxer. He went from a loss to Mike Cope to KO'ing established K-1 fighters in about 6 months. That's not stepping up?
Fighting Mod Thai against Dutch fighters in Holland. That's not stepping up?
Fighting guys up to 10kg heavier than him (a big deal in those lower weight divisions) isn't stepping up?
A regular competitor in K-1, 2 world kickboxing titles, a King Of The Ring tournament title and you guys act like he's accomplished nothing. Shame on you. The problem is, in your never ending quests to idolise JWP and dump on someone else, nothing is good enough unless it involes JWP himself, Muay Thai or Thailand. Nothing else is good enough. Our sport has apparently become that close minded. Heres something to stew on, in the one set of rules that could be described as a happy medium for these two (K-1 rules) Zambidis has the better record. Food for thought. Thought I'd add that since it's becoming fashionable to downplay everything the guy does.

Kind of on a different tangent here, but why is JWP regarded as a God because of that MMA bout? This is some sort of proof of his inhumane bravery and guts? Guys, it doesn't take a warrior to step into a fight he knows he is going to get destroyed in when the payday is that big. Hey, I'm not bagging the guy, that's called business sense. I'd do it, and so would anyone if the opportunity was there. Hell, Stephan Leko made a second career out of embarrassing himself in Pride in a series of 30 second to 1 minute losses for HUGE paydays. But give the warrior thing a break sometimes, it's good business, nothing else.
Remember that JWP once said he wouldn't fight Mike in a kickboxing bout, but if the $$$ were there, of course he would.






Geez - what a monotone! Must have done your homework to get those "facts" pertaining to me however you have made one huge glaring oversight John K - I dont bag Zambidis but rather his nuthugger fans who spew out verbatim the same lines.


As for stepping up fighting Mod Thai against the Dutch? (never known elite Dutch fighters to fight Mod Thai but I will let you continue) - good but nowhere near living in the home of Muay Thai and fighting the best under total rules and winning the creme de la creme - the King's Cup. Mod thai or KOTR tournament - no comparision John K is that so hard to comprehend?

PS Your reference to a C class fighter (your words) is pathetic.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 16:33:21

[John K]

quote:
quote:
quote:
quote:
Once upon a time,

When he was 11 he won his first Karate fight against, Aristos Poutsos in Athens.

When he was 15 he took on another sport and won a Greek title in boxing.

When he was 20, he finished the Greek army and was flown to a land far away and knoced out a world champion in kickboxing.

When he was 22 he went to a near by country called Italy and fought a THAI boxing tournament and knocked out a world champion Matteo Sciacca, sent Peter Polak into a deep sleep and became the king of the ring. He fought Wanlop, Zanifko and Soares in thai rules also.

When he was 23 he stepped out of his comfort zone again and went to another far away land and fought the current champion of the be and end all, K1. He Ko'd the world champion Albert Kraus.

To let you all know, Mike has developed and fougt out of the "comfort zone" many times. He lives in Greece and fights his big fights in different continents. Will anyone challenge him in Greece?

He wants to win the K1 and has prepared himself for this so he can reach his goal. Fighting in other forms of fighting for $$ or to prove a point is not what his aim is.

Maybe when his career is on the slide he can venture in MMA, or even snow boarding, who knows?

-----------------------
Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!


LOL - lifted right off the fan page. Only a couple of problems - Greek boxing title? What title - no record of it in boxrec or AM records. Stack it up against Parr's Aust. title and fights against ranked world contenders. KOTR 2002 - no 5 x 3 Full Thai rules there and who was in it again?

Naming some small unverified tournament in that powerhouse of Muay Thai (Italy) does not stack up. Feel embaressed when measuring up against living and breathing in the world's home of Muay Thai and winning the King's Cup, green jacket, etc.






It's amusing that you dump on everything Zambidis has done and achieved, yet on another thread you heap praise on a C-Level clubfighter for what a great fighter he is.
Is it some kind of mental deficiency that prevents some of you from liking Wayne Parr and Mike Zambidis at the same time? Do you think you are doing an injustice to your hero if you don't bag the other?
Where to begin? In this thread it's been stated Mike has never fought Mod Thai rules. Incorrect, he has. Twice. In Holland.
In this thread it's been stated JWP constantly "steps up" and Zambidis doesn't. Hmmm. A natural kickboxer becoming a K-1 fighter isn'y considered fighting out og your comfort zone? I remember 5 years ago guys like Pira Pira (not him specifically, but baggers like him) were saying Mike would never fight in K-1 because he was "scared" or he'd get "brutally knocked out". Zambidis is now more K-1 fighter than kickboxer. He went from a loss to Mike Cope to KO'ing established K-1 fighters in about 6 months. That's not stepping up?
Fighting Mod Thai against Dutch fighters in Holland. That's not stepping up?
Fighting guys up to 10kg heavier than him (a big deal in those lower weight divisions) isn't stepping up?
A regular competitor in K-1, 2 world kickboxing titles, a King Of The Ring tournament title and you guys act like he's accomplished nothing. Shame on you. The problem is, in your never ending quests to idolise JWP and dump on someone else, nothing is good enough unless it involes JWP himself, Muay Thai or Thailand. Nothing else is good enough. Our sport has apparently become that close minded. Heres something to stew on, in the one set of rules that could be described as a happy medium for these two (K-1 rules) Zambidis has the better record. Food for thought. Thought I'd add that since it's becoming fashionable to downplay everything the guy does.

Kind of on a different tangent here, but why is JWP regarded as a God because of that MMA bout? This is some sort of proof of his inhumane bravery and guts? Guys, it doesn't take a warrior to step into a fight he knows he is going to get destroyed in when the payday is that big. Hey, I'm not bagging the guy, that's called business sense. I'd do it, and so would anyone if the opportunity was there. Hell, Stephan Leko made a second career out of embarrassing himself in Pride in a series of 30 second to 1 minute losses for HUGE paydays. But give the warrior thing a break sometimes, it's good business, nothing else.
Remember that JWP once said he wouldn't fight Mike in a kickboxing bout, but if the $$$ were there, of course he would.






Geez - what a monotone! Must have done your homework to get those "facts" pertaining to me however you have made one huge glaring oversight John K - I dont bag Zambidis but rather his nuthugger fans who spew out verbatim the same lines.


As for stepping up fighting Mod Thai against the Dutch? (never known elite Dutch fighters to fight Mod Thai but I will let you continue) - good but nowhere near living in the home of Muay Thai and fighting the best under total rules and winning the creme de la creme - the King's Cup. Mod thai or KOTR tournament - no comparision John K is that so hard to comprehend?

PS Your reference to a C class fighter (your words) is pathetic.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 16:33:21


Pathetic? Fair enough, so is your armchair-expert powered theories that an elite world class fighter has never "stepped up" in his career.
We're even, one pathetic comment deserves another.

[Zambo Rambo]

Hassan Kassrioui
Younes El Hamsan
Noel Soares

There is a lot that you wouldn't know about Zambidis!

If you think your bagging us Zambidis fans, pfff keep trying!

Here, i'll be a kid for a Day! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Zambidis - 1
JWP - 0


........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

Edited by - Zambo Rambo on 09 Aug 2007 16:48:43

[johnny_619]

Straight off the fan page....actually, because I'm deeply in love with Mike, it was all off the top of my ahead apart from remembering who that guy Peter Polak was, who has fought in the Superleague before. Matteo Sciacca was a world champion at the time Mike knocked him out. Thats the honest truth but I made that first guy up, it actually means Aristos **** in Greek.

John K pretty much summed it up..enough said.



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Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!

[imported_n/a]

quote:
Pathetic? Fair enough, so is your armchair-expert powered theories that an elite world class fighter has never "stepped up" in his career.
We're even, one pathetic comment deserves another.

Gotta love how you insert a definitive description such as "never stepped up" to gain those extra yards in order to try to give weight to your points - to the extent that you even read and memorise other unrelated posts and introduce them as "evidence" to somehow lessen an opinion. That's a strawman arguement used to deflect logic.

To put it simply - JWP has achieved significantly higher honours in more sports than Zambidis. Has Zambidis achieved more in K-1? Yes he has. Are there various reasons? Yes. Have I bagged Zambidis because of this? To a Zambo fan probably however to me it is simple logical points. Take it how you will.
The simplistic arguement that becuase Zambidis is in K-1 that he is better is nonsense yet it is line demonstrated time and time again from Zamnatics.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 17:23:12

[Hironaka]

You know what I find so hilarious about this thread? Muay Thai elitists are just as one-eyed as the Zambidis fans, but they don't even know it because they are in the majority.

Hitler had a lot of people agree with him, but does that make him correct?

We have successfully proven Godwin's Law!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law

[imported_n/a]

quote:
You know what I find so hilarious about this thread? Muay Thai elitists are just as one-eyed as the Zambidis fans, but they don't even know it because they are in the majority.

Hitler had a lot of people agree with him, but does that make him correct?

We have successfully proven Godwin's Law!!!!!!!!!!!!!111111111

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_Law




Hiro,

Shsssh - you are spoiling the entertainment. I was going to get this up to 20 pages and knock off Russ' thread.

[rebel]

quote:
[quote]


To put it simply - JWP has achieved significantly higher honours in more sports than Zambidis.



Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 17:23:12


like what? muay thai and...??

[rebel]

quote:
[quote]


The simplistic arguement that becuase Zamidis is in K-1 that he is better is nonsense yet it is line demonstrated time and time again from Zamnatics.





Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 17:23:12


yep, so is the simplistic arguemet that JWP is better just ecause he fights full Thai, yet it is line demonstrated time and time again from Parrnatics.

[Zambo Rambo]

GOLF!

He Won the Green Jacket as Pira said! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

[johnny_619]

Zambidis has achieved more in K1 than JWP, the worlds best kickboxing organisation...so why would he fight in a less prestigous organisation to prove his worth or that he is a better fighter?

The K1 was made to unite all rules and all fighters and it has.

To prove his worth though, Mike hardly fights in Greece. Where as JWP, has had many fights, including the first fight against Mike in his native land. Why not be fair and have the rematch in Greece?

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Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!

[upacut]

LOL at you all,

All I said was a friend told me that they were gonna fight after he heard it on the radio, now you guys are tuffing it out trying to work out who is the best in the ring.

Hopefully they just get it on again and it is now a draw (GO JWP <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)

[Voice]

now all we need to do is slip a slur in about Gerks and we will have the whole damn forum at everyone's throats!
And on the same thread too! hehe
Love it!

-----------------------------
Live long and prosper...

[allanf]

To prove his worth though, Mike hardly fights in Greece. Where as JWP, has had many fights, including the first fight against Mike in his native land. Why not be fair and have the rematch in Greece?

Johhny-619 -- why not be fair i think we have been fair since Greece has invaded Australia its a home fight for Zambo anyway whenever he fights in Australia.

[Zambo Rambo]

You got half a Wish Voice, only if he'd mention the word Gerk. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

[johnny_619]

quote:
To prove his worth though, Mike hardly fights in Greece. Where as JWP, has had many fights, including the first fight against Mike in his native land. Why not be fair and have the rematch in Greece?

Johhny-619 -- why not be fair i think we have been fair since Greece has invaded Australia its a home fight for Zambo anyway whenever he fights in Australia.




In real life, its a 28 hour flight into a country he is unfamiliar with and somewhere he has to change his whole system to adapt with it all.

The crowrd isnt the issue, Mike will have the crowd with him in most places.

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Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!

[Voice]

quote:Johhny-619 -- why not be fair i think we have been fair since Greece has invaded Australia its a home fight for Zambo anyway whenever he fights in Australia.


LMAO...
so there Johnny...INVADED!

Off come the gloves now...<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle> hehe

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Live long and prosper...

[Zambo Rambo]

Voice, will you be in Japan for the K-1 Final?

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

[Voice]

yes sir. Oct 3rd at the Bukokan...just down the road...saw Guns 'N Roses there the other day. Can't wait.

-----------------------------
Live long and prosper...

Edited by - voice on 09 Aug 2007 19:36:20

[Zambo Rambo]

Anyway of getting in contact with you whilst im in Japan?

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

[Voice]

of course...drop me an email (on profile) and i will revert with my mobile. Look forward to meeting and grabbing some beers in roppongi. I'm going to be buying my tickets tomorr i think.

-----------------------------
Live long and prosper...

[Zambo Rambo]

Likewise, see you in Japan!

........................
www.ironmikezambidis.com

[nagas]

Muay Thai the creme de la creme???
Think you need to check the facts Pira Pira MMA is the creme dela creme. Get your 5 best Full Muay Thai stylists to fight under MMA rules maybe 1 might win if the other fighter is not a strong wrestler with BJJ background.
Lets get real here.
Zambo & Parr i like them both and the rules that they fight that are the same are K1 rules.
Or they can play Lawn bowles..... i hear Zambo is a mean player at in the RSLs in Greece.

"Alex your drunk & he's you brother"
"yes im drunk, tommorrow i'll be sober, but he'll always be a fag*ot" Van Damme

[johnny_619]

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Muay Thai the creme de la creme???
Think you need to check the facts Pira Pira MMA is the creme dela creme. Get your 5 best Full Muay Thai stylists to fight under MMA rules maybe 1 might win if the other fighter is not a strong wrestler with BJJ background.
Lets get real here.
Zambo & Parr i like them both and the rules that they fight that are the same are K1 rules.
Or they can play Lawn bowles..... i hear Zambo is a mean player at in the RSLs in Greece.

"Alex your drunk & he's you brother"
"yes im drunk, tommorrow i'll be sober, but he'll always be a fag*ot" Van Damme


Mike is good at lawn bowls, he gave it a go and didnt even get paid for it. It will be up on the site next week. He has even stepped out of the ring onto the flat green to show he is not one dimensional.

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[imported_n/a]

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To put it simply - JWP has achieved significantly higher honours in more sports than Zambidis.



Edited by - PIRA PIRA on 09 Aug 2007 17:23:12


like what? muay thai and...??




Quite a few more - Australian boxing champion and lost a hotly disputed decision against ranked (WBC from memory at the time) Hamdan, beat the world shooto champ, Kings Cup winner,etc,etc.

[imported_n/a]

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Zambidis has achieved more in K1 than JWP, the worlds best kickboxing organisation...so why would he fight in a less prestigous organisation to prove his worth or that he is a better fighter?

The K1 was made to unite all rules and all fighters and it has.

To prove his worth though, Mike hardly fights in Greece. Where as JWP, has had many fights, including the first fight against Mike in his native land. Why not be fair and have the rematch in Greece?

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Sorry but WMC is more prestigous to a Thai fighter and living and fighting in Thailand fight camps stacked up against flying in first class to Australia - no comparision.

If K-1 unites all rules then why no elbows or grapple? Ahh - entertainment factor!

[imported_n/a]

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Muay Thai the creme de la creme???
Think you need to check the facts Pira Pira MMA is the creme dela creme. Get your 5 best Full Muay Thai stylists to fight under MMA rules maybe 1 might win if the other fighter is not a strong wrestler with BJJ background.
Lets get real here.
Zambo & Parr i like them both and the rules that they fight that are the same are K1 rules.
Or they can play Lawn bowles..... i hear Zambo is a mean player at in the RSLs in Greece.

"Alex your drunk & he's you brother"
"yes im drunk, tommorrow i'll be sober, but he'll always be a fag*ot" Van Damme


Nagas - off the point and the issue is not "facts" as you state. We are talking standup styles here so your analogy is incorrect - well Muay Thai is a style, K-1 is a set of rules promoted by a corporate organisation.

BTW how many MMA fighters and gyms have K-1 coaches? How many have Muay Thai coaches and programs?

Are there K-1 pads like Thai pads?

[johnny_619]

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Zambidis has achieved more in K1 than JWP, the worlds best kickboxing organisation...so why would he fight in a less prestigous organisation to prove his worth or that he is a better fighter?

The K1 was made to unite all rules and all fighters and it has.

To prove his worth though, Mike hardly fights in Greece. Where as JWP, has had many fights, including the first fight against Mike in his native land. Why not be fair and have the rematch in Greece?

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Greeks dont fight like heroes, heroes fight like Greeks!


Sorry but WMC is more prestigous to a Thai fighter and living and fighting in Thailand fight camps stacked up against flying in first class to Australia - no comparision.

If K-1 unites all rules then why no elbows or grapple? Ahh - entertainment factor!




Once again, you add elbows and a grapple, thats called a thai fight, K1 laucnhed their advertisment campaigns to entice viewers on the fact that combat sports would unite in one ring. This has never been an issue for Bukaw, Kraus and Masato. They have learnt to adapt their styles when the rules get adjusted year by year. Like Mike adapted from a boxer, to a kickboxer to a K1 fighter. He became a K1 fighter, thats why he is still on their shows, thats why they give him a contract. He hardly knew how to knee when he entered into K1. They have him there for entertainment.

Bukaw calls himself the "K1 World Max Champ" and from memory he also holds a WMC title. What does he regard as a greater achievment? Dont see him defending that "prestigous" belt too much.

Each to their own I guess.

Mike sparred the late Basam Chami at the Jeff Fenech gym and back then Basam was regarded as the next big thing until he passed away. Mike gave him a towling, so if Mike did ever fight in boxing again he wouldnt do that bad either. But its K1 all the way, why jepordise your dreams for dollars?

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[P-DYNAMO]

Will this never end???

[Bushi]

Not until Zambo steps up, out of his comfort zone to fight under FTR...<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
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Guys, just kidding..

"Yours in Bushido"

Bushi

[Hironaka]

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Quite a few more - Australian boxing champion and lost a hotly disputed decision against ranked (WBC from memory at the time) Hamdan, beat the world shooto champ, Kings Cup winner,etc,etc.


He beat the world Shooto champ?