Jason Suttie Challenges Gurkan! [Archive] - International Kickboxer Forum

Lucy Tui

21-02-2003, 08:47 AM

I was reading the international kickboxer and Jason has put a challenge out to Gurkan,Tarik was meant to give him a rematch ..
a while back because he fought Gurkan on short notice......
Should be a great fight Jason Suttie has beaten Peter Graham
What do you readers think?????
Regards
Lucy Tui

mick

21-02-2003, 11:21 AM

Ozkan is the man to beat at the moment but i don't think Suttie is the one to do it

Lucy Tui

21-02-2003, 12:19 PM

1. Jason Suttie is a worthy opponent...his record speaks for himself...

2. KB4 Champion Superheavyweight 2002

3. NZK1 Champion Superheavyweight 2002

4. Smarter fighter.

5. Tarik said they will give him rematch, he did them a favour when they needed someone on 6days notice 1990's..

6.He is a warrior like Gurkan...

7. Jason has come up from middleweight and has World titles
in 7 different divisions..

8.He has beaten Peter Graham...

9. I think he has been more succesful as a heavyweight than
Gurkan...

10.He has the chrisma and style and has a huge following in Australia & NZ.........

Mike remember we are talking about a CHALLENGE HAS BEEN MADE HERE, GURKAN SAYS HE WILL FIGHT ANYONE ANYTIME......JASON SUTTIE HAS PUT UP THE CHALLENGE...
Just stating status and fact as why I think Jason is a worthy opponent to fight Gurkan.....
Regards
Lucy Tui

paul c

21-02-2003, 12:27 PM

Does Jason only want to fight at heavy-weight or is he willing to come down to a middle ground?

Perhaps Cruiser-weight.

I personally have seen enough of Gurkan's heavy-weight fights.
Sure they make an interesting spectacle, but I don't think it's doing his long term carreer as middle-weight much good at all.
It's my hope that Tarik will bring over the worlds biggest middle-weight names.

Lucy Tui

21-02-2003, 12:39 PM

Hi Paul,
If Gurkan puts out a challenge he fights Stan at his weight which is heavyweight why can't he fight Jason at his weight remember they are not natural heavyweights so whatever weight they agree with in which I think should be heavyweight as the same as he fought Stan...if he wants to be the reining King of the sport .Jason
to me is a better and smarter fighter..that is why they should fight.
If Gurkan whats to fight a middleweight there is John Halford if Tarik whats to put that on.now that John has recovered from riverina...mmmmm....just a opinion Gurkan has my respect as a fighter and he is to me Australia's best as far as heart is concerned....
Regards
Lucy Tui

remy

21-02-2003, 02:22 PM

Lucy, a lot of fighters want the opportunity to fight Gurkan and main event a Tarik Solak promotion. If Gurkan was intent on fighting somebody like Suttie he might as well go into the k-1 oceania and maybe end up meeting him there if the draw falls that way. Suttie is an accomplished fighter but what is beating Suttie alone going to do for Gurkan's career?
I also rather see Gurkan fight at supermiddleweight rather than give up so much weight to the big boys.

mick

21-02-2003, 02:41 PM

on the other hand, if Gurkan was to fight Suttie he should do it soon as he has already beefed up, this way he doesn't have to drop weight to make the super middles then put it back on.
Is Gurkan going to fight in the K1 eliminator?
He is already talking of fighting the contenders so why not go for it.

paul c

21-02-2003, 03:53 PM

I think it's only fair they fight on middle ground.

Jason looks about 105 Kg,

Let them meet up at say 90 or 95.

I still would like to see someone else do the weight shifting. Ozkan has led the way and his attitude is "I don't hide behind a single weight division".

I'd like to see the fight but absolutely think Gurkan is silly staying heavy. Trust me guys, it gets harder and harder to loose weight in your mid 30s.

I used to be able to drop 30kg in 6 weeks when I was 30, but not any more.

Axekick157

21-02-2003, 04:22 PM

We all know that Gurkan is an excellent fighter and has accomplished a lot throughout his fighting career, but why should he be the one to move weights, It's just silly he should be concentrating on some of the better international opponents in his own weight division.

The guy has proved enough lets see him bring some of those world titles to Australia and even try his luck in the M/T scene.

He is only hurting himself and his body if he keeps jumping up and down on his weight.

Enough of the different weight division challenges Gurks, start fighting at your own weight, there are still plenty of guys out there.

Lucy Tui

21-02-2003, 04:54 PM

Thanks for the feed back,as you guys missed my point it was not about this that or the other it is about the Challenge if you are going to be King of the sport in all divisions lets see how he goes with Suttie..he fought Stan at heavy what is wrong with fighting at heavyweight against Suttie, if he goes in the K1 Oceania then lets hope they meet in the final..but it will be hard on Gurkan because he has to fight 1 or two other fighters to get to each other lets have them as a one off fight........
Com'on Tarik this fight will be a ripper....Jason has fought the same fighters as Gurkan in there weight divisions lets get it on...
Jason is a world champion in his own right,he beat Trevor Ambrose,Ivan Hippolyte,he has fought Ian jacobs I am not sure once or twice if it is one to them both.....
Regards
Lucy Tui:)

paul c

21-02-2003, 05:06 PM

Lucy,

I understand your point,
but,
I think Jason has more to gain than Gurkan, so what's wrong with meeting him half way.

I'll have to read the article more carefully, but at this point is sounds like Jason wants it all his way.

Don't get me wrong, I think it's a great fight in the making, but for pete's sake lets give Gurkan a break.

I asked him yesterday about the Oceania, and he didn't sound particularly interested in the heavy-weights.

Edited by - paul c on 21 Feb 2003 16:40:33

remy

21-02-2003, 05:44 PM

That's good to hear, that Gurkan isn't that interested in the heavyweights. He doens't have anything to prove there. Maybe Tarik can reorganise the tournament at supermiddleweight that they cancelled for the Stan fight. Or just single fights bringing on the best from around the world.

remy

21-02-2003, 05:47 PM

Lucy, you have rallied fights for your NZ boys before. But I don't see Ozkan gaining much by fighting Suttie. Suttie should concentrate on the k-1 oceania. There are many more fights for Ozkan that would draw larger crowds. He doesn't have that much longer in the sport. He has to carefully pick who he has to fight. If we are looking for a rematch they should bring Ambrose back down or if Vermes comes back then go for that. These are fights that will really mean something to Ozkan.

And Gurkan isn't really beefed up. He probably weighs only 83kg at the moment. 5kg over his usual fighting weight.

Lucy Tui

22-02-2003, 12:11 AM

So let me know who you think he should fight..what more recognition does Gurkan need he is the best isn't he so no matter who he fights it will be the same...aleast by fighting Jason
who is a more established heavyweight who has proved he can mix it with the big boys is better recognition if Gurkan beats him..
So what you guys are saying if he fights Paul Solwinski he would get more out of that fight please....you would love to see that fight
why? or a fighter from overseas with a name and Jason hasn't got a name in fighting.....
Jason has challenged him so Gurkan should accept,because of the 10reasons as written above,there is know more fighters out there other than Stan that could bring as many people .......
Regards
Lucy Tui<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Steve

22-02-2003, 12:47 AM

I want to see Gurkan fight Suttie!!!
Both are warriors and will not back down.
I believe they should fight 5 x 3 under K1 rules.

I am sure that it would be better than Stan v Gurkan.
Although Ozkan was considerably well beaten by Paul Briggs in their boxing fight, I know that I love to watch Gurkan fight - because winning, losing, or in a close one Gurkan is there to fight.
And let's face it - we want to see - as fans, good fights.
I believe this would be guaranteed.

BTW - Slowinsky v Gurkan would be a good fight also, and I lean towards Slowinsky.
But if I'm going to depart with my ca$h, I want to see fights and Gurkan definitely provides one - EVERYTIME!

Regards,

Steve

remy

22-02-2003, 01:20 AM

Lucy, I don't think Gurkan should fight Slowinski. I want to see him fight at middleweight. Bring the biggest stars from around the globe and fight them. Maybe in a k-1 for supermiddleweights like Tarik had planned. That's where I want to see Gurkan. Gurkan can't fight everybody that challenges him cause there are too many.

paul c

22-02-2003, 02:06 AM

Remy,

That's exactly what Gurkan said he would like to happen.
A tourny of the worlds best at 75kg, with Tarik offering a nice payday for the worlds elite to be interested.

remy

22-02-2003, 02:28 AM

Paul, it's good to hear that's what he wants next. They were gonna offer $100,000 weren't they for this tourny before it was cancelled?

paul c

22-02-2003, 02:48 AM

I think so Remy.

Originally, I believe that I read somewhere that Tarik was given a go ahead by K-1 Japan to hold the world event here. This would have been spectacular, as K-1 World Max is in Japan. So, Australia would have been the centre of the world as far as Super Middle-weights are concerned. Not surprising I guess considering we have Ozkan, Hallford both living in Aus. I'd easily rate them at no 1 and 2. Both hold ISKA titles I believe.

With $100,000 as prize money, perhaps slightly lighter greats Parr and Dawson would consider giving it a crack also. To me, Parr, Zam and Dawson coming up slightly to fight the likes of Ozkan, Hallford in such an event would just be mindblowing.
Imagine Parrs boxing skills. Dawson's ability to outpoint just about anyone in the world ( hehe, less Parr off course) and Mike's mad phenominal combos could be very serious threats to the established Super Middles.

remy

22-02-2003, 03:02 AM

Yeah, but they have their own tournament in the k-1 max. The U-78 could have maybe 2-3 from oz and the rest from around the globe.

paul c

22-02-2003, 03:08 AM

I've forgotten all the original details remy, but wasn't it going ot start with 16 fighters.

The Under 78kg.

It sounded very different from the regular K1 Max if I remember correctly.

remy

22-02-2003, 04:24 AM

That was the original idea Paul. But end of last year they were organising the k-1 U-78 tournament. It was meant to be feb 17, later cancelled and changed to Stan vs Gurkan. The tourny had names such as Ambrose, Jacobs was a chance, and Dekkers was rumoured to be coming out of retirement for the big purse.

Lucy Tui

22-02-2003, 10:17 AM

That sounds great guys K1 78kg style, definetly suit Gurkan, I am planning a KB4 75kg end may June so watch out who will be on that.....we have some fresh fighters coming through..
Regards
Lucy Tui

sethridge

22-02-2003, 07:22 PM

all you guys r making excuses now. fact is suttie would demolish ozkan and you say what would ozkan get out of fighting suttie about the same as suttie would get out of fighting ozkan.. in case you havnt noticed ozkan isnt that big outside of melbourne and sydney. you fellas make him out to be like lennox lewis or something.. for a world champion he never fights international oppenents so how is he gonna get reconised around the world. i dont mean to bag him ozkan is a good,tough fighter i think for someone of his stateur should be fighting better oppenents than aurther zcarness,stan... he should be fighting world class fighters who are peaking and hungrey for the sport, then you can judge how good he really is!! thats my opinion anyway and iam sure everyones got one. but slowinski would be ozkans toughest fight to date, ian backing slowinski but would be a tough fight and at the end of the day both boys would be winners cuz they are and will be great champions for many years to come...

Koshy

22-02-2003, 07:25 PM

I think that Jason is a top fighter but I have no interest in seeing him fight Ozkan. Why not one of the young guns that are going around at the moment, its time for someone to try and take Gurans mantle from him. But I would rather see this done at his proper weight instead of seeing him bounce around divisions like he has for the last few years.