The Asian Muay Thai Championships August 2007

[pioneer]

The World Muay Thai Federation (WMF) and Federation Amateur Muay Thai of Asia (FAMA) under the guidelines of the Olymic Council of Asia and The National Olympic committee presents

The Asian Muay Thai Championships and Pre-Indoor Games
from August 19th-21st, 2007
At Sree Kanteerava Indoor Stadium, Bangalore, India.

&

The 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau, China,
from October 26, 2007 to November 3, 2007


For more details coming soon check:
www.muaythaipromotions.com
www.worldmuaythai.org






Edited by - pioneer on 26 Jun 2007 21:32:35

[pioneer]

This will be a multi-million sport event. All 19 sports together. This year will have Kick-boxing as a demonstration sport at the second Asian indoor games. It also includes Muay (Thai).

Check out the site for more details:
http://www.maigoc2007.com/05.php.htm

[Imsta]

Looks good. How many Aussie are we going to see there?


Kun Khmer Renaissance

[babyface]

do fighters get selected?
how does it work?

[pioneer]

Hi Im, yes I'm sure that Aussies can go and watch but Cambodians will be fighting for sure! LOL

Babyface, there will have to be selections because of rules and regulations of International Olympic Rules.

[Sicarii]

I am sure that Australians can go watch, but they certainly can't compete because Australia is not part of the Asian games (which includes many countries in the middle east) nor part of the Southeast Asian games, whether general, indoor or winter games.

[pioneer]

http://muaythaipromotions.com/images/fama_championship_posters.jpg

This tournament has been approved by The National Olympic Committees/The Olympic Council of Asia also; the European Championship in October is to be held in Portugal.

www.maigoc2007.com/05.php.htm
www.worldmuaythai.org
www.muaythaipromotions.com










Edited by - pioneer on 29 Jun 2007 20:52:37

[pioneer]

We are included in the Asian Championship as we are of the Oceania region. Keep in mind that this is a World Championship outside of Thailand in March 2008. Any one keen?

The World Martial Arts Games (including Muay Thai) April 2008 in Bangkok- A huge event with martial artists coming from around the world to participate. Organised by the IOC (The International Olympic Committee)
Confirmation is to come...

www.martialartsgames.org






Edited by - pioneer on 26 Jun 2007 21:32:04

[muaynewsthailand]

Dear Readers,

As much as one would try to convince his followers to believe in the story he created, one day the truth will surface and it will cause him much embarrassment. This statement conveys deceptive information and is unacceptable in my point of view and within Muaythai community. Thus I take this opportunity to clarify several details as follows:

1) The WMF Championships is not and will not be recognized by the IOC nor has an affiliation with the IOC or any organization recognized by the IOC. One should not make public statement with misleading information.

2) In contraire, IFMA is a full member of GAISF, an association recognized by the IOC. This is a factual information, evidence can be obtained from the following –
> Type in the IOC homepage, www.olympic.org
> Search, International Sports Federations
> Go to, Contact the GAISF
> Click GAISF homepage, www.agfisonline.com
> Click, Members
> Click, Muaythai – details of IFMA as member will be displayed

With regards to the statement on the Asian Championships in India being recognized by the IOC and OCA, and apparently sanctioned by the Olympic Committee of Thailand. This is a complete misinformation, especially as the Olympic Committee of Thailand has no right to sanction an event in India. I suggest the person who posted this information should do some research on the Olympic movement.

Furthermore, the organizers of this event have called themselves and have been using the name and logo of the existing Federation of Amateur Muaythai of Asia (FAMA), a member of IFMA, under the presidency of Mr. Karim Massimov who is the current Prime Minister of the Republic of Kazakhstan and the Vice President of the Olympic Committee of Kazakhstan. This action has created problems and confusion within Asian member countries and therefore will be presented to the Court of Arbitration of Sport by representatives from these member countries.

Next item is the World Martial Art Games. This is a mere event being organized by a group of martial arts that have no recognition from the IOC or GAISF, which a quick internet search will confirm. The fact is the next meeting of Martial Arts Commission Working Group of GAISF will be held in Thailand on December 5, 2007 where presidents of all 13 martial arts recognized by IOC and GAISF will attend and discuss the organization of the GAISF World Martial Art Games 2010, for which Muaythai, under IFMA, will be one of the 13 martial arts. This meeting will be hosted by the IFMA, with support from the Ministry of Tourism and Sports and the Sports Authority of Thailand, and chaired by the President of GAISF and the Chairman of the IOC Coordination Committee for the Beijing 2008 Olympic Games. Already 3 important meetings for these Games have been held – one in Seoul, one at the NOC Headquarter in Brussels and one at the IOC Summer & Winter Olympic and GAISF meeting in Beijing (I was present at all meetings) and I was personally part of a coordination meeting at the IOC Headquarter in Lausanne, in which the criteria for such Games was discussed.


The 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau during October 26 – November 3, 2007. Please feel free to visit the 2nd Asian Indoor Games website, and you will see the IF is the Macau Muaythai Association, which by the way is a member of IFMA. As for the 24th Sea Games which will be held in Thailand during December 6 – 15, 2007, IFMA has been appointed the controlling body. The sport in these games is called Muay, which we are not in agreement with, as the official sport is Muaythai under GAISF, and we are proud to be affiliated with it. On that note, Pioneer’s statement that the “Asian Championship” in India is apparently recognised by the OCA is a little funny, as the OCA does not recognise the sport of Muaythai, but the sport of Muay.

We all live in the advanced information technology era it is so easy to find out the facts when uncertain information is posted on the net. Evidence can be seen on the homepages of the IOC, GAISF and IFMA. Details of IFMA activities such as meetings at the IOC Headquarter and GAISF General Assembly at the Sport Accord in Beijing are available for public viewing. Comparing this to the WMF homepage, there is information on the annual world championships that shows minimal support and virtually non-existing audience.

The upcoming IFMA World Championships this year has 100 member countries participating and the presidents of all martial arts recognized by the IOC and GAISF will be present. This indeed demonstrates that IFMA has been accepted and given full support from all other members of the world sport community.

I ask all our friends in Australia to be more open-minded. Once you see these statements, you should search further to rectify the facts. For example the number of WMF events in comparison to WMC and IFMA events in Australia per year, you will find 1 or 2 WMF against 50 WMC and IFMA events. Needless to say, these facts reflect the situation in the world. Instead of posting misinformation on the net, these people should join us so that Muaythai in Australia could grow stronger and everybody can work under the umbrella of one recognized federation for the benefit of the athletes and Australia.



Stephan Fox
General Secretary IFMA

[pioneer]

by muaynewsthailand:

quote:
The 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau during October 26 – November 3, 2007. Please feel free to visit the 2nd Asian Indoor Games website, and you will see the IF is the Macau Muaythai Association, which by the way is a member of IFMA. As for the 24th Sea Games which will be held in Thailand during December 6 – 15, 2007, IFMA has been appointed the controlling body. The sport in these games is called Muay, which we are not in agreement with, as the official sport is Muaythai under GAISF, and we are proud to be affiliated with it. On that note, Pioneer’s statement that the “Asian Championship” in India is apparently recognised by the OCA is a little funny, as the OCA does not recognise the sport of Muaythai, but the sport of Muay.

Dear Readers,

My aim in informing you is not to cause a stir or rather a 'ping pong' effect that will soon become very exhausting for all you readers. Instead I aim at informing you of happenings with our sport of Muay Thai or 'Muay' as known in particular international tournaments from credible sources.
In achieving what I have set out to do I will submit various valid documentation for you to read and evaulate for yourselves.

#1 Below are letters from the MAIGOC inviting Mr. Santiparph Intaraphartn (president of FAMA) (Federation of Amateur Muay Thai of Asia) to attend the 3rd OCA (Olympic Council of Asia) Coordination Commitee in Macau; it also states the necessary information.

http://img167.imageshack.us/img167/2808/fama071ub0.jpg
http://img300.imageshack.us/img300/7714/fama081yy2.jpg


#2quote: With regards to the statement on the Asian Championships in India being recognized by the IOC and OCA, and apparently sanctioned by the Olympic Committee of Thailand. This is a complete misinformation, especially as the Olympic Committee of Thailand has no right to sanction an event in India. I suggest the person who posted this information should do some research on the Olympic movement.
-There is nothing in this thread that mentions that the Olympic Committee of Thailand is sanctioning the event in India. We are speaking of every NOC National Olympic Committee in Asia bodies.

Please check back from time to time and keep up to date with news. In the end all I wish is for Muay Thai fighters Australia-wide to have the opportunity to build experience from eventually competing in one of these prestigious events as we are apart of the Asia Pacific Region.





Edited by - pioneer on 29 Jun 2007 21:09:16

[pioneer]

ttt,(take to the top)

[muaynewsthailand]

First of all, it is very important for all Muaythai enthusiasts to understand that our sport is called “Muaythai”, not Muay or any other names. The Asian Indoor Games is not so much of our concern as the sport is called Muay. The only sport we know is Muaythai and we are proud to be a part of it. We all, as foreigners, have fought very hard to get the name and the sport accepted and recognized in the world sporting community (see details in GAISF website). It is an achievement in which you could not even comprehend to conquer.

Your message posted 25 June 2007 quoted, “The World Martial Arts Games (including Muay Thai) April 2008 in Bangkok- A huge event with martial artists coming from around the world to participate. Organised by the IOC (The International Olympic Committee)
Confirmation is to come...”

I must say that it is a misleading statement and you should be careful of the messages you posted. The fact is the IOC would never organize martial art games for unrecognized martial art federations, of which you are a member. The IOC will not recognize your federation. GAISF, the association recognized by the IOC, in contraire will organize the World Martial Art Games in 2010 which every Australian Muaythai enthusiast has a chance to qualify to participate.

The documents you posted do no justice to the matters being discussed here and they do not mention anything about the WMF. The letter you posted was an invitation to the President of the Thai Federation to attend the Coordination Committee Meeting for the 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau. The list of technical delegates was created on a blank sheet of paper with no letterhead, the representatives from Macau do not have names, and there is no prior approval from organizing committee.

At the end of the day, I am mainly concerned by the misinformation about IOC involvement in your post, and I must state one more time that IFMA is the only recognized World Federation under GAISF, who are a partner of the IOC.

[pioneer]

Hi All, please see below an official WMF letter regarding The National Olympic Committee of Thailand's recognition of the World Muay Thai Federation (WMF)...

http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/3963/noctregdocok9.jpg

Also; the World Martial Arts Games (letter below) accepted the World Muay Thai Federation (WMF) in 2006. The World Martial Arts Games are held every 2 years with the next in 2008 in April, Bangkok, Thailand.


http://img162.imageshack.us/img162/9708/iocrp2.jpg

Edited by - pioneer on 06 Jul 2007 12:39:54

[pioneer]

t.t.t..

[muaynewsthailand]

There are several points to consider regarding the Congratulatory Message from the IOC President. One, this message which was posted under the link to 2nd International Martial Arts Games that was held in August 2006 in Korea, was addressed to the participants and organizers of the Games. The message did not convey that the IOC was involved in organizing the Games nor mentioned that the Games is recognized by the IOC, in anyway. Two, this message was quoted, produced and posted by the Martial Arts Games Council of Asia 2006; it does not show the original text from the IOC President or his signature on the message. Three, all the federations listed in this message are not recognized by the IOC nor GAISF.

With regards to the recognition letter for the WMF, from the National Olympic Committee of Thailand; similarly IFMA also received the recognition letter from the National Olympic Committee of Thailand which was dated back in 1998.

IFMA recently held an Executive Board Meeting, which was opened by His Excellency Dr. Suwit Yodmanee, Minister of Tourism and Sports – Thailand. Also present in giving support, was the President of the National Olympic Committee of Thailand, His Excellency General Yuthasak Sasiprapa. Full details under IFMA Top News, at www.ifmamuaythai.org

In Australia the WMC and IFMA is represented by numerous clubs and gyms in all states all over the country, whereas the WMF is existed in merely several gyms in one state. This reflects the situation worldwide.

The Portugal Muaythai Federation which is recognized by its National Olympic Committee and the Government is a member of IFMA only. Which federation will be the organizer of this European Championship in Portugal that was quoted to be held in October 2007?

FACT – The Asian Indoor Games in Macau is under the directive of the Olympic Council of Asia. See details at www.maigoc2007.com

FACT – There is no International Federation (IF) appointed as controlling body for the sport of Muay for the Asian Indoor Games. Read Short List of Designated Sport, Muay, Technical Handbook, at www.maigoc2007.com

FACT – The IOC does not recognize the WMF; and the World Martial Arts Games in 2008 is not listed in the International Sports Calendar, at www.olympic.org

FACT – The IFMA is the only recognized International Federation for Amateur Muaythai by GAISF. Details in Member, Muaythai, at www.agfisonline.com

FACT – It is only three months away to October, details of the European Championship in Portugal cannot be found anywhere on any websites.

Our federation deals with facts, not fabrications. At the recent Executive Board Meeting details of the upcoming IFMA World Championships that has been finalised and the Championships was endorsed as one of the projects under the Thai Government. The Championships will be held in honour to the Celebrations on the Auspicious Occasion of His Majesty the King’s 80th Birthday Anniversary on December 5, 2007. Approximately 1,500 athletes and officials from 100 member countries will participate in this event. We are able to achieve this milestone because IFMA is recognized by GAISF. We follow the ethics of the sport and the Olympic Movement; and only through this the IFMA has a better chance of getting IOC recognition.

[pioneer]

Please find invitation with competition information of European Championship 2007 all of these competitions will be held in Pavillion das Travessas,VIGO city, Galicia – Spain The AEMT (Spanish Association of Muay-thai) & thePortuguese Federation is inviting you and your team for participation. The above federations are now proud to be apart of the WMF.

http://img104.imageshack.us/img104/2034/docotodaylh9.jpg

[pioneer]

ttt..

[pioneer]

You accuse me of deceptive conduct, while your organisation claims the support of the OCA (Olympic Council of Asia) in spite of the 2nd Asian Indoor Games in Macau officialy citing FAMA (Federation of Amateur MuayThai of Asia) as an affiliate on its website, Under Mr Santipharp Intaraphartn the president of FAMA, as is evidenced by the report below.

http://www.maigoc2007.com/Eng/picsub/53.shtml

Results from 2nd Asian Indoor Games organised by our Federation of Amateur Muaythai of Asia (FAMA)

Flyweight 48kg - 51kg
G:CHAN KAI TIK, Hong Kong
S:CLARO ROLAND, Philippines
B:KUJUR ALBERT, India & MENNOI ARTIT, Thailand


Bantamweight 51kg - 54kg
G:PAYUNHAN SUPACHAI, Thailand
S:VELASCO BRENT, Philippines
B:CHAN KAI CHUNG, Hong Kong & VONGCHAMPA BOUNMA, Lao

Featherweight 54kg - 57kg
G:KWANGKHWANG WEERAPON, Thailand
S:HUDOYBERDIEV ABDULLO, Uzbekistan
B:LARUAN ZAIDI, Philippines & PHAVANHDY LAMTAKHONG, Lao


Lightweight 57kg - 60kg
G:PUNTUMA SANGUAN, Thailand
S:ZHANG BO, China
B:MOHAMMED IMAUDDIN NA, India & ULZIIBAT ENKHBAYAR, Mongolia

Light Welterweight 60kg - 63.5kg
G:SUMIDO RUBEN, Philippines
S:KHETNOK METTA, Thailand
B:SIVONGSA SENGCHANH, Lao & YAGHMOUR MUSTAPHA, Lebanon

Welterweight 63.5kg - 67kg
G:KAHHOROV MAVLONBEK, Uzbekistan
S:ISHII HIROKI, Japan
B:ABUSAFIYAH YASER, Jordan & MOTAMEDI CHALESHMI J, I.R. of Iran

Light Middleweight 67kg - 71kg
G:KADIRKULOV ARTUR, Uzbekistan
S:ROSHANI NASAZ VAHID, I.R. of Iran
B:MAGSARJAV BATJARGAL, Mongolia & SHETTY BALKRISHNA SH, India

Middleweight 71kg - 75kg
G: ABDOLLAHI MOSTAFA, I.R. of Iran
S: SHUKLA SANDEEP, India
B: AL RAFAI SAYYAD, Kuwait & EL KAISSI WAEL, Lebanon

Light Heavyweight 75kg - 81kg
G:MATSUMOTO TOSHIO, Japan
S:LI BAOMING, China
B:ALI ALI, Jordan & MUHAMMED MUHAMMED, Iraq

http://img113.imageshack.us/img113/9224/8ac594c2ro8.jpg http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/517/u14p1t3d3848f26dt200711fx7.jpg

[imported_n/a]

kool

[pioneer]

WMF (World MuayThai Federation) committee responsible for organising the Muay at highly successful 2nd Indoor Asian Games in Macau

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2368/1917208570_6c2bd19c8b_o.jpg

[pioneer]

The following is what "muaynewsthailand" said on behalf of IFMA, however, these are actually fictions which are intended to mislead. Please read the fiction and the evidence refuting the claims and presenting the truth, that the WMF (World Muaythai Federation) is the only official member of IMGC (International Martial Art Games Committee) and the one and only Federation representing Muaythai at the IMGC Championship starting on April 12, 2008 with the IOC and GASIF Presidents in attendance for the grand opening ceremony.

FICTION – There is no International Federation (IF) appointed as controlling body for the sport of Muay for the Asian Indoor Games. Read Short List of Designated Sport, Muay, Technical Handbook, at www.maigoc2007.com
FICTION – The IOC does not recognize the WMF; and the World Martial Arts Games in 2008 is not listed in the International Sports Calendar, at www.olympic.org
FICTION – The IFMA is the only recognized International Federation for Amateur Muaythai by GAISF. Details in Member, Muaythai, at www.agfisonline.com

REALITY

Dear Mario

IMGC (International Martial Art Games Committee) is multi sport event not our WMF Champiomship ; Only WMF people work for IMGC organizing commitee

We decided to host IMCC around September next years but request by IMGC President

Mr.President of GAISF and IOC can come for opening ceremony on 12 Apl 2008

My advise due to WMF have many group of Muaythai in one country want to join WMF

WMF can accept only one Federation as FULL MEMBER ( Member of your NOC) have
a right to join World championship

for this reason the other group ( Gym or Non Gov or Non NOC ) become
Asociate member of WMF can go to IMGC Championship

The principle of IMGC founder ( Prof'.Chang Ung) to welcome every body in
Martial Art no NOC no Gov

For your question I'm recommend go to WMF in Bulgaria !

If some body want to come to BKK just making small team ( 2-3 Fighter) come
to BKK

Sincerely

Nopporn

BIMAG


----- Original Message -----
From: "Mario Da Silva"
To: "Nopporn"
Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 1:01 PM
Subject: Question regarding IMGC


> To Colonel Nopporn Sutthent,
> Secretary General World Muay Thai Federation.
>
> Dear Sir,
>
> Please advise in regard to participation in the International Martial
> Arts Games to be held next year. My preference, as your legitimate
> representative in my country, is to participate in the WMF World
> Championships in March 2008. Will the IMGC Games tournament dates
> conflict with our World Championships and, if so, can you advise as to
> the importance of relevant participation on behalf of WMF at this
> event?
>
> Always wishing you well,
>
> Mario Da Silva,
> President Muay Thai South Africa.
>

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2172/2051813141_4b61147974_o.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2275/2051813235_fac7fe9e52_o.jpg

[pioneer]

We are very excited that the President of the IOC and the President of GASIF has taken an interest in Martial Arts and we hope this is the next step to more recognition of Martial Arts in the mainstream sporting arena world wide.

[Glass Jaw]

I'd like to watch that cat Cristian Lierabucci fight Nelson Pelegrino.

[pioneer]

Glass jaw,

Cristian VS Nelson fight on International Martial Arts games in Bangkok?.

[pioneer]

Col.Nopporn Sutthent the General Seceretary of WMF (World Muaythai Federation) has recieved a final confirmation letter from Dr. Suwit Yodmanee (Minister of Tourism and Sports) regarding WMF organising Muaythai for the 24th SEA Games.

The Minister appointed (1) Mr Thinakorn Numboonjit (SEA Games Chairman Muaythai Chief Organiser) and (2) Mr Sombat Khurbahn (Thailand Muaythai Team Manager compete for 24th SEA Games)

Request your Thai friend help to translate.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2280/2072855095_5fdd00ce60_b.jpg

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2260/2072855499_c8bff5fb36_b.jpg

(right) Col. Nopporn Sutthent (WMF General Seceretary)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2374/2073650680_e9fd08f325.jpg

(top left) Col. Nopporn Sutthent (WMF General Seceretary)

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2390/2073651430_890a3c6983.jpg

[pioneer]

.

[pioneer]

..

[pioneer]

Read from the top till below.....

[pioneer]

The 24th Sea Games is kick off in Nakornrachasrima (Korat)tomorrow.

If you are all still in Thailand,come down to support Muaythai to become medals sport.