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Glass Jaw
30-01-2003, 09:51 PM
Not in the ring unfortunately, or fortuantely Michael however you want to look at it :) (just kidding), just interested in your opinions.

Reading the post a couple of days ago, based on a mega tourney or event, i had a few ideas re-enter my mind.

A mega 16 man tournament featuring Australia's top fighters from the 70-76kg division. Mind you, as argued before, these aren't all the guys, or perhaps the top guys, but anyhow -

Under usual K-1 rules,

Behic
Collard

Elson
Raph Tai

Baris
DeVanna

Zam
Chopper Chapman

Nandex
Dawson

Eugene Ekkelboom
Halford

Curovic
Cope

JWP
J. Allen

How would the event pan out, what are the most promising 1st round match-ups, and what are the most anticpated 2nd round etc brackets?

What should the winner be awarded?

Would it be more feasible to exclusively award the winner with a large sum of money -

or, alternatively, award $3000 (or so) to make 2nd round, $8000 for semi, $20, 000 runner up, hence $55, 000 for the winner or something along those lines?

Any ones opinions other than endorsing that i'm a d*ck head with too much time on my hands most welcome of course.

Tony S
31-01-2003, 09:40 AM
Being from more a boxing background, but enjoying kickboxing/MT, ive often thought about the tournament type events Kickboxing/K-1 seems to love.

I see some advantages of them, and they are good to watch, but what about the negatives? Guys going into fights underdone, cut, injured, tired etc effects how they performe against another competitor, and could compromise the competition.

For example, watching the latest Tarik Solak offering, Zam-JWP was a very closely fought final, however to me it seemed Zam had a harder run into that final, and looked very flat. JWP seemed a lot fresher. Zam was in one of the fights of the year in the semi.

Are single night tournaments the best way to determine a victor?

Glass Jaw
31-01-2003, 12:39 PM
Your correct in that it can heavily affect the consistency as such of the tournament; perhaps there could be a tournament panning over a few individual nights (not necessarily consecutively) that wouldn't hinder the fighter's performances to the extent of which would occur should they fight as per usual.

Everybody will have conflicting opnions, i agree with your negatives, yet what i believe sets these style of tournaments apart from the rest - is that they provide more quality entertainment with the suspense of hoping to see crowd favourites return to the next round, and test their "endurance" against another such entity.

Having the opportunity to see "your guy" or guys, as it may be, battle it out (possibly) on several occasions on the same night, against more than one opponent adds a certain level of excitement in my opinion.

Although only in its infancy, my opinion, is that the 16 or 32 premier fighters should battle it out to truly determine who is the man of the moment.

32 down to 16 on 1 night, 16 down to 8 on another, then 8 down to 1 on the final mega-card.

- I mean Zam took out the last one
- JWP has many who beleived he deserved the nod
- Halford took the KB4
- Rock and Chopper have won before
- Elson, Cope, Collard, Behic and J. Allen performed well
- Prince, Tui, Raph Tai, Soliman, Baris and Harvey (if i recall) made the semis
- Curovic, DeVanna and Hull had their moments
- Ekkleboom won an 8 man WA tournament
- Nandex is an up-and-comer
- Many more warriors you can include -
Reece, Kempson, Misich's, Pond, Le, Zammit, Douett etc

Hypothetically, make it a PPV (INT).

I think it can only help the sport grow, and despite boxing perhaps having the larger International audience, i would prefer to see this event versus KT's most recent card, and i'm a huge boxing fan!!!

Many names on KT's card were unknown to the US and International audience, so this fact would have little impact i think in selling to Japan etc, who know of JWP, Chapman, Collard, Dawson to name a few.

Just a few concepts anyhow ???