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Hironaka
11-08-2006, 10:58 AM
I know it's not everyone's cup of tea, but I thought that there is enough people here who have an interest to warrant creating a thread dedicated to MMA news, events, fighters etc.

SO, PLEASE POST ALL MMA RELATED NEWS HERE!!!



Edited by - hironaka on 24 Aug 2006 11:14:35

Edited by - Hironaka on 27 Sep 2006 19:20:37

Edited by - Hironaka on 17 Oct 2006 10:38:11

Hironaka
11-08-2006, 11:01 AM
OK, let's start with UFC 62 coming up on August 26 with the Chuck Liddell vs Babalu LHW title fight. Who do you think takes it?

Me? Babalu. How? Waits out the first couple of rounds, takes Chuck to the ground, Chuck tries to stand up as he does, Babalu takes his back, sinks in the hooks and ends it with a RNC.

Anyone disagree??

humble
11-08-2006, 11:15 AM
Yeh. I think Chucks previous victory on him will be luring in his mind. That and the fact chuck has only improved. Babalu has also improved leaps and bounds, so could be a tough feeling out process the whole night.

What I wanna see is Franklin go back up in weight and take on Chuck.

"Everyone has a plan until they get smacked in the face."

-Mike Tyson

Hironaka
11-08-2006, 11:41 AM
Apart from Silva and Marquardt, there really isn't a hell of a lot lined up for Franklin at 185, unless Lindland comes back, which is highly unlikely, so maybe he will make the move. He will need to be on top of his game to get past Silva though.

Speaking of the 185 division, the Bushido 185 GP airs on the same day as UFC 62:

Quarter-Final Match-Ups

Dan Henderson vs. Kazuo Misaki
Paulo Filho vs. Ryo Chonan
Denis Kang vs. Amar Suloev
Akihiro Gono vs. Gegard Mousasi

Meh, to be completely honest, none of these match-ups really interest me too much. If it wasn't for the STACKED undercard, then I probably wouldn't even bother.

-Tatsuya Kawajiri vs. Chris Brennan
-Takanori Gomi vs. David Baron
-Hayato “Mach” Sakurai vs. Luciano Azevedo
-Mitsuhiro Ishida vs. Cristiano Marcello
-Gilbert Melendez vs. Nobuhiro Obiya
-Shinya Aoki vs. Jason Black
-Hatsu Hioki vs. Jeff Curran

Good to see Hioki, Aoki, Obiya and Melendez get their chance in the big show

cut cut strike
11-08-2006, 10:08 PM
Babalu is awesome. But for me the Iceman all the way. Can't wait for this one.

samuaythai
12-08-2006, 03:53 PM
i would really love to see babalu sub chuck im with you on this one hiro.
bushido im going
henderson
chonan
kang
gono
nice undercard.
and i have just read not 100% positive but it now looks like the wandyvschuck fight is now not going to go ahead please mma gods change your minds.

Zviggy
12-08-2006, 05:45 PM
I think Babalu will win the rematch.

BTW, looks like the Wanderlei Silva vs Chuck fight will not happen.

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Hironaka
13-08-2006, 09:37 AM
quote:
bushido im going
henderson
chonan
kang
gono


Chonan over Filho?

muay thai ff
13-08-2006, 11:16 AM
hey hironaka do you know why they dont have the ufc on pay per view any more?i think the last one was a few years ago when tito ortiz fought ken shamrock in a big grudge match it was a great fight ortiz won shamrock came out of retirement to fight him because ortiz beat one of shamrocks fighters and put a shirt on saying the fighter he just knocked is my *****

muay thai ff
13-08-2006, 11:19 AM
that last word was btich lol

Hironaka
13-08-2006, 12:13 PM
I believe that the last live PPV shown in Australia was UFC 45 which was a toilet of a fight card headlined by the Matt Hughes/Frank Trigg Welterweight Championship bout.

I have inquired a couple of times as to the chances of getting Pride shown on PPV down here, but Fox's response has always been that the buys for the UFC shows were disasterous and there is no plans to bring back the UFC or show Pride anytime soon.

Personally, I am a little indifferent towards the UFC. Although they are capable of putting on some great match-ups (Liddell/Babalu, GSP/Penn spring to mind), i believe they show a great unwillingness to bring in new bonafide talent other than cheap TUF rejects who couldn't cut it on a reality show and their LHW and MW divisions especially are feeling the effects now.

My main interest lies in Shooto, Hero's, Pride and Japanese promotions.

Hironaka
13-08-2006, 12:18 PM
Shiv, if you are reading ...

With the next Pride Bushido show being broadcast free-to-air on Fox Sports in the States, is there any chance of it being shown here???

Adambjjoz
13-08-2006, 03:42 PM
You can watch direct live free broadcasts of all the UFC, Pride and K-1/K-1 Hero's event's over broadband internet, by signing up for a free account with a Korean TV sports channel.

That's what we do now, because we cant get PPV's (Hell, why pay when you can get it legally and for free?).

Link gives instructions on how to do it: teamliquid.net/forum/vie...07&currentpage=1

Once you get the TV channels up and running, just search for "UFC", "Pride" or "K-1", depending on what your trying to watch live.

The guys over at the Australian MMA forum (Infinitemma.com) use connections between 512k and 1.5k (and above) and have a reasonably successfull bag of results between them.

I have a 1.5m true-unlimited connection with IndependentSP and i have no issues streaming the whole 3 hour events at 200k, 400k, 600k and 800k without interruption. Anything 800k or above becomes choppy for me, though.

Cheers,

Adam.

Adambjjoz
13-08-2006, 03:46 PM
Sorry for the double-post, but on the up-coming Pride Bushido GP event, Denis Kang vs. Amar Suloev and Akihiro Gono vs. Gegard Mousasi are both going to be contenders for most exciting fight's of the year, Pound for pound.

Filho and Henderson should quite easily crush their opponents. In fact, Henderson KO'd Misaki in about 15 seconds of the first round, when they fought little less than a year ago.

Zviggy
13-08-2006, 05:25 PM
Hiro is right. The reason UFC is not shown in Australia is because not enough people purchased it. Bit hard when they didnt advertise the shows and no one knew what it was. If they could market it by showing the TUF to build up exposure and then putting the UFC events on PPV, they would get more buys. Enough? Im not sure.

What i dont understand is how New Zealand gets the UFC and Australia doesnt. Are the PPV buys bigger in NZ than Australia?

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Hironaka
13-08-2006, 07:27 PM
quote:
You can watch direct live free broadcasts of all the UFC, Pride and K-1/K-1 Hero's event's over broadband internet, by signing up for a free account with a Korean TV sports channel.


Which works fine if a Korean is competing.

Hironaka
13-08-2006, 07:30 PM
quote:
In fact, Henderson KO'd Misaki in about 15 seconds of the first round, when they fought little less than a year ago.


No, you're thinking of Ryo Chonan. Misaki took Decision Dan to the judges at Bushido 10

Hironaka
13-08-2006, 07:31 PM
Good Lord ... from Sherdog.com

Former NCAA wrestling champion and WWE star Brock Lesnar made official his debut in K-1 HERO's, reports Sherdog.com's Mike Sloan from ringside at K-1 USA's "Battle At Bellagio" tournament in Las Vegas.

Invited to the ring Saturday evening by announcer Jimmy Lennon Jr., the 285-pound Lesnar announced his planned October debut against a yet-to-be-decided opponent.

Joining the Webster, South Dakota native in his announcement, three-time UFC tournament champion Royce Gracie stated that he would help prepare the former WWE pro wrestler for his mixed martial arts debut.

Adambjjoz
13-08-2006, 11:10 PM
quote:
quote:
You can watch direct live free broadcasts of all the UFC, Pride and K-1/K-1 Hero's event's over broadband internet, by signing up for a free account with a Korean TV sports channel.


Which works fine if a Korean is competing.

Thanks for a pointless response, but the last 4 events held by UFC, Pride and K-1 have all shown live and for free - most not containing Korean fighters last time i checked.

Why are you bagging something that comes for free, live & direct ?

Zviggy
14-08-2006, 08:16 AM
Adambjjoz is correct. The place shows events live even if koreans arent competing.

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Hironaka
14-08-2006, 08:22 AM
Wow, OK, Hironaka's a ****er. Can you please post/e-mail me the proper link then so I can sign up. I was sure that they only offered it if a Korean was competing. Well at least the hook-up that I have been using does ...



Edited by - Hironaka on 14 Aug 2006 09:41:13

Adambjjoz
14-08-2006, 01:17 PM
No worries Hironaka, heres the link:

http://teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=38307&currentpage=1

Hironaka
14-08-2006, 01:21 PM
Thanks dude

Hironaka
15-08-2006, 10:36 AM
For all those grapplers out there ...

Apparently current ADCC Absolute Division Champion, Roger Gracie, has signed to make his MMA debut against none other than Don Frye in the MFC event on November 4th.

Hironaka
17-08-2006, 05:24 PM
Ultimate Fight Night August 17, 2006 (tomorrow our time)

Main Card Bouts:
-Karo Parisyan vs. Diego Sanchez
-Dean Lister vs. Yuki Sasaki
-Josh Koscheck vs. Jonathan Goulet
-Chris Leben vs. Jorge Santiago

Preliminary Bouts:
-Joe Riggs vs. Jason Von Flue
-Sam Morgan vs. Forrest Petz
-Anthony Torres vs. Pat Healy
-Jake O'Brien vs. Kristof Midoux
-Crafton Wallace vs. Martin Kampmann

Parisyan/Sanchez is some of the finest UFC matchmaking this year. Should be good. I couldn't really care less about the rest of the card ... Riggs/Von Flue could be fun though.

Bushi
17-08-2006, 05:41 PM
Wonder if Diego's nickname is "Dirty"..<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

Bushi
"Yours in Bushido"

"Go as far as you can see, and when you get there you'll see further"

Hironaka
17-08-2006, 05:51 PM
quote:
Wonder if Diego's nickname is "Dirty"..<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>


It should be ... tell me that this guy is not screaming to be called 'Dirty' Sanchez

http://www.sherdog.com/_images/pictures/16223.jpg

samuaythai
17-08-2006, 08:37 PM
im with karo diegos getting a bit 2 cocky but hey 17-0 i spose he can be but karo is a sub specialist and has a good ground game to take to diego and i think it should be interesting in the standup i just hope karo doesnt gas.as for the rest of the card sh$te.

how good is this ufc and xplosion both for free tommorow im a happy chappy.for those of u who would like to watch{i dont mind sharing }one of my favourite sites is back up and running better than ever http://www.mma-tv.net/mma-tv just join up {free}and watch live pride,ufc,heros,k1,kotc,wfa and many more events live absolute top site all they ask for is a {small donation} every now and then to help keep server up and running and if u donate u have access to better streams. and yes i use liquid also.



now they also have tvschedule of all there evens for the year so u dont miss out yahoooooooo.



Edited by - samuaythai on 17 Aug 2006 19:43:48

southpaw
18-08-2006, 08:55 AM
quote:It should be ... tell me that this guy is not screaming to be called 'Dirty' Sanchez

damn! that's Dirty Sanchez alright... and trust Bushi to be the one to bring it up.

With proper diet, rest, and exercise a healthy body will last a lifetime.

Hooky
18-08-2006, 09:01 AM
Hope Goulet beats the shi t out of koscheck.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

Zviggy
18-08-2006, 09:18 AM
Agreed Hooky

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Hironaka
18-08-2006, 10:28 AM
Wishful thinking guys, Koscheck is literally going to **** Goulet. It will not last a round.

Hironaka
18-08-2006, 12:32 PM
Pat Healy (Pictures) vs. Anthony Torres
R1
Both fighters trade strikes early in the bout. Torres scored with a right hand that stunned Healy. Anthony shoots in for a single but he gets stuffed and has to settle for pulling guard. After a failed triangle attempt, Torres swept his opponent, took his back and secured a rear naked choke at 2:37 of the first round.

Forrest Petz (Pictures) vs. Sam Morgan (Pictures)
R1
Petz dominated the opening period, scoring three takedowns and stunning Morgan with several punches. Near the end of the round, Petz landed a big left hand and followed up with some ground and pound. Morgan, clearly hurt, was saved by the bell.

R2
Another dominating round for Petz. Forrest connects on a left hook that drops Morgan. Petz tries to pounce but Morgan is still game. Pets stands up from his opponent's guard and Morgan follows. Another left hand drops The Ultimate Fighter veteran. Morgan is able to survive the round once again, but it presumably down by 2 points or more.

R3
Round three starts with a front choke attemp from Morgan, which Forrest easily escapes. Yet another left hand scores for Petz. Forrest doesn't sit in his guard long, as he stands up while Morgan is still on his back (A manuever often repeated in the bout). The fight ends on the floor, where Petz held side control for a brief period. Forrest Petz wins by unanimous decision (30-26, 30-23 and 30-27).

Kristof Midoux (Pictures) vs. Jake O'Brien (Pictures)
R1
O'Brien scores an early takedown via ankle pick. O'Brien pushues his opponent against the fence and lands some punishing strikes. Referee McCarthy restarts the action. O'Brien with another takedown. Again the ref restarts thew action.

R2
Midoux is taken down early in the round. O'Brien crawls his opponent to the cage and starts unleashing some brutal ground and pound. "Big" John halts the action at 52 seconds of the second period.

Jason Von Flue (Pictures) vs. Joe Riggs (Pictures)
R1

Riggs starts the bout by lifting Von Flue into the air and slamming him down to the mat and straight into side-control. Von Flue gave Riggs his back, and fought off a rear naked choke before reversing the position and ending up in Riggs' guard. From there, "Diesel" wasted little time before finsing a trianlgle choke at and forcing the tap at 2:01 of the first stanza.

Crafton Wallace (Pictures) vs. Martin Kampmann (Pictures)
R1
Wallace throws some head kicks to begin the action, but nothing lands solid. Wallace tries another kick, but it's caught by Kampmann. Kampmann scores a takedown into side-control. Martin now working from Wallace's back, looking for the choke, but Wallace defends as Martin gives up the choke and starts blasting away at his opponent's head. Kampmann goes back to the rear naked choke and forces a tap at 2:59 of the first round.

Jonathan Goulet (Pictures) vs. Josh Koscheck (Pictures)
R1
Koscheck catches Goulet with a right hand to kick off the action. Josh quickly pounces and secures a guillotine choke. Goulet survives the onslaught and now is controlling from half-guard. Goulet working for a Kimura. Koscheck escapes and lands several hard elbows to the Canadian’s face. Koscheck moves to mount, then to Goulet’s back shortly after. Josh pounding on the back of his opponent’s head with heavy strikes. Referee “Big” John McCarthy calls a stop to the action at 4:10 of the first round. Very impressive performance from Koscheck.

Yuki Sasaki (Pictures) vs. Dean Lister (Pictures)
R1
Lister goes for a takedown but Sasaki stuffs it and pushes his opponent against the cage. The referee restarts the fight due to the lack of action. Sasaki throws a few out of range punches and Lister throws a high kick that misses its mark. Lister jumps on his opponent’s back with one hook in. Lister working for the rear naked choke. Lister gives up the hook but still has Sasaki’s back in a standing position. Lister works Sasaki down and gets both hooks in. Sasaki rolls out to his feet. Lister throws Sasaki back to the canvas and applies a body triangle from the back. All Lister in the first period.

R2
Sasaki lands an uppercut to start the second phase. Sasaki falls into Lister’s guard. The ADCC champ switches his hips high and is looking for a submission. Lister secures an arm and looks for the armbar. Lister rolls him over and switches to a triangle choke. Lister is pulling the head down and peppering the Japanese fighter with elbows. Lister now looking for an inverted armbar while still in the triangle position. Sasaki escapes to his feet after a scramble and lands several punches that stun Lister. The round ends with Lister looking tired and hurt.

R3
Sasaki lands a straight right to Lister's abdomen. Lister looks very uncomfortable standing with the PRIDE veteran. Lister tries to pull guard but Sasaki won’t follow. Sasaki lands a left hand that rocks Dean. Lister is out of gas and fighting on pure heart. With 60 seconds remaining, Lister scores a takedown but Sasaki quickly gets back to his feet. Lister scores a suplex as the horn sounds to end the contest. The judges score the bout 30-27 x 3 for Dean Lister.

Jorge Santiago (Pictures) vs. Chris Leben (Pictures)
R1
Santiago lands a huge straight right that stuns Leben. Chris scores a takedown, and escapes an armbar that was quickly being applied by Santiago. Leben, working from half-guard, is now bleeding from the nose. Leben stands up and jumps back into his opponent’s guard. Chris digging in some body shots from Santiago’s guard. Referee Herb Dean restarts the action at the 2-minute mark. Santiago lands a right hand and scores a trip takedown into half-guard. Round one goes to Jorge Santiago.

R2
Leben scores a huge left hand that knocks Santiago out cold. Chris quickly jumps in and lands two more before the action is stopped. Chris Leben wins at 35 seconds of the second stanza.

Hironaka
18-08-2006, 12:32 PM
^^^^ Stolen from Sherdog.com ^^^^

Hironaka
18-08-2006, 12:33 PM
quote:
Wishful thinking guys, Koscheck is literally going to **** Goulet. It will not last a round.


Man, you are so ****ing awesome.

Hironaka
18-08-2006, 01:23 PM
Diego 'Dirty' Sanchez (Pictures) vs. Karo Parisyan (Pictures)
R1
Diego lands a right uppercut and scores a quick takedown. Diego quickly moves to Karo’s back with two hooks. Karo is bleeding heavily. Diego now working a body triangle from the back. Parisyan manages to rise to his feet and scores a takedown on his own. Karo now working from Diego’s guard with solid puches. Diego reverses and hops on his opponent’s back. An amazing Judo throw plants Diego on his head. Another Judo throw puts Diego on the canvas. Parisyan now finding his rage with the punches. Round one goes to Karo.

R2
Karo lands a head kick then works a steady jab. Parisyan rocks Diego with a left and a right and follows it with a takedown into Diego’s guard. Diego spins from the bottom and nearly scores a kneebar. Now standing, both fighters trade punches in the center of the Octagon. Diego answers with a swift takedown. Sanchez working punches and elbows from Parisyan’s closed guard. Diego transitions to Parisyan’s back after a scramble as the round ends. Round two goes to Diego.

R3
Parisyan closes the distance and gets a clinch but can't drag Sanchez to the floor. Diego lands a big uppercut that rocks Karo. Parisyan scores a takedown against the cage. Diego explodes up and trips Karo and nearly secures a rear naked choke. Sanchez on Karo's back with one hook. An exhausted Parisyan eats several visious body shots before landing another Judo thow. Diego now on top, pounding away. The fight ends with Diego in complete control.

Official score:
29-28
29-28
30-26
Sanchez wins a unanimous decision.


Sounds like a great fight, can't wait to watch this later tonight.

Hooky
18-08-2006, 01:48 PM
Good to see Leben get another win.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

southpaw
18-08-2006, 01:55 PM
quote:Diego now working a body triangle from the back.
Dirty Sanchez working from the back, eh?

and then
quote: Diego spins from the bottom
dirty Sanchez spins from the "bottom"... i see... <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

sorry had to do it <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

With proper diet, rest, and exercise a healthy body will last a lifetime.

Edited by - southpaw on 18 Aug 2006 12:56:56

shaunw
18-08-2006, 02:13 PM
<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

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samuaythai
18-08-2006, 03:38 PM
good fight my prediction not so good diego is a very talented fighter and deserved the win karo looked gassed love those judoka takedowns i think diego has earnt his title shot nice ko by leben in his fight and a suprise seeing diesel finish by triangle..

Adambjjoz
18-08-2006, 07:28 PM
How has Diego earnt a title shot, when he hasn't even faced any of the divisions top 3 fighter's yet ?

Hughes, GSP, Penn ?

Zviggy
18-08-2006, 07:33 PM
How is Penn top 3 in the division when he his record in UFC in the last 30 months is 0-1?

Diego's in that same period of time is 5-0.

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Rob McIntyre
18-08-2006, 11:38 PM
hey Hiro,

has bonello ever fought in UFC or Pride? he is supposed to pretty good has he had a crack overseas yet?


Rob McIntyre - Gladstone
"in your training do not forget the spirit or the humility of a beginner"

samuaythai
18-08-2006, 11:47 PM
i think kotc but not 100% on that.

Zviggy
19-08-2006, 12:26 AM
He has fought in KOTC only. Apparentily has signed with Pride but whether that happens or not is a big question mark.

Needs to step up and fight better guys IMO.

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Downcut
19-08-2006, 01:19 PM
No disrespect to his opponents, but I really think he is wasting his time here. If he really has what it takes he should be O/S. Pride/UFC. He's the perfect weight for it. I'd like to see how he shapes up against the likes of Liddell/Ortiz and a whole listing of Pride and UFC fighters.

I think he's playing with his marbles here.
Just my opinion.

Hooky
21-08-2006, 10:09 AM
How tough was Jamie Te Huna, dislocating his shoulder, popping it back in then enduring the whole fight to win on descision at Xplosion friday night. Crazy!!!

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

Hironaka
21-08-2006, 10:19 AM
Rob, I don't really know a whole lot about Bonello myself apart from the fact that his has fought in KOTC before and that there was some sort of controversy regarding his fight with Bobby Hoffman.

Hironaka
21-08-2006, 10:21 AM
Also, I have read on a number of other boards that people are disputing the decision in the Sanchez/Parisyan fight. I saw the fight over the weekend and those who truly believe that Karo was robbed are smoking crack and obviously were not watching the same fight that I was.

Zviggy
21-08-2006, 10:59 AM
Agreed Hiro. No way did Diego lose that fight.

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Hironaka
21-08-2006, 11:09 AM
It was a great fight, but I think that people gave Karo's throws in the first round too much weighting on the score cards. When you break it down, despite the brillance in technique, they still only count as one takedown and when the opponent stands straight back up or reverses position, as Diego did, they shouldn't really score that much at all. Just my opinion.

Potential Fight of the Year candidate though.

What other nominations for FOY do people have thus far?

My list would be something like:

Sanchez/Parisyan
Menjivar/Tokoro
Matsune/Mizugaki (from Shooto 21/7)

whitelightning
21-08-2006, 06:02 PM
Does the UFC do any package deals to Las Vegas to watch fights live?? Flights/accomodation/tickets ect?? If so has anyone been?

Mina
21-08-2006, 06:20 PM
what a load of crap jamie tahunas fight was. he should have lost what is the deal with popping your shoulder out taking a time out going over to your corner and them fixing it for you. what crap he should have lost tko

mmafan
21-08-2006, 06:45 PM
yeah, i agree. What a load of crap. He even faked the dislocation, i have never seen anyone in this kind of sport who was able to carry on after a dislocation. No one has.

Zviggy
21-08-2006, 10:45 PM
mmafan, your a complete idiot. His shoulder is absolutely buggered because of it in the days after the fight.

Get your facts straight before you open your gob and question someone who put in ALOT of heart and determination to continue.

I do think it was questionable decision but i dont know the rules, and the referee in charge was the leading MMA referee and a well respected guy.

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Edited by - Zviggy on 21 Aug 2006 21:49:39

Zviggy
21-08-2006, 10:52 PM
Can i ask why he would fake it and risk losing???????

as for it not being done before, havnt you seen Best of the Best?:-) Seriously though iv seen it done in local amateur football games.
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Edited by - Zviggy on 21 Aug 2006 21:57:45

Hooky
22-08-2006, 08:23 AM
I thought that jamie was controling the fight prior to his shoulder popping out. He appeared more dominant on the ground and was causing more damage. I know it was early in the fight but he was looking stronger. It was the ref who stood him up and called the doc into the ring. The crowd was impressed anyway, they roared into applause and cheers when his trainer put it in and he said he was ready to fight. Good on him.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

Downcut
22-08-2006, 09:45 AM
Whether he was dominating or not, he lost that fight end of story.

What a load of crap that was.

Hironaka
22-08-2006, 10:04 AM
Fight of the Year candidates thus far, anyone?

Zviggy
22-08-2006, 10:21 AM
Downcut, just about what we were talking about in the other thread.

Yeah, i thought it may have beeen KOTC you went to. Although i havnt seen it, from all reports what happened between Bonello and Hoffman was a complete and utter joke. Thats what you get when Bonello pretty much runs KOTC in Australia and he is main event. Another note, 10 out of Bonello's 14 opponants have come from the KOTC/Gladiator Challenge organisation (coincidence??) which Bonello has very close close links to.

Anyways what im trying to say is that most MMA fights are run pretty well (at least here in QLD).

Hironaka, fight of the year i liked

GSP/Penn
Hansen/Azeredo
Karo/Diego
Tito/Forrest
Hunt/TK

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Hironaka
22-08-2006, 10:35 AM
quote:

Hironaka, fight of the year i liked

GSP/Penn
Hansen/Azeredo
Karo/Diego
Tito/Forrest
Hunt/TK


Hansen/Azeredo was fun, I forgot all about that, thanks for the reminder. I will watch it again tonight.

Tito/Forrest was actually better than I thought. Man, Tito was an animal in that first round. That was the best that he had looked ever in my opinion. It also had that element of drama and tension in it, but when you look back on it in a year's time, I don't think you will view it the same way, if you know what I mean.

Much in the same way I look at Bonnar/Griffin from last year now. When I first saw it I thought it was the tits, best fight ever, now when I watch it and that all the dust has settled, it seems like it is just a sloppy brawl. You can not deny the significance of the fight though.

Hunt/TK just didn't do it for me, I thought that Barnett/Aleks Emelianenko was a much better fight from that event and was probably one of the better Pride fights from this year, mind you, there hasn't been a whole lot of quality matches from the regular Pride series.

On the other hand, Bushido continues to churn them out. I was almost tempted to name Ishida/Aurelio as one of my favorite fights ... due to Ishida's relentless dominance of a fighter who had just defeated the king of the 155lbs division. Ishida has well and truly arrived.

I am so pumped for Melendez/Obiya this week, awesome matchmaking.

Also looking forward to Aoki putting on a clinic against Black. If none of you guys have seen Shinya Aoki fight before then you are in for a treat. This guy is the tits.

Zviggy
22-08-2006, 11:29 AM
Hiro, agreed that Tito in that first round looked great. The main reason i put Tito vs Forrest and GSP vs Penn was that i was fully hyped for the fights and the tension was just brilliant.

Maybe Tito vs Shamrock III will be a fight of the year? <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Voice
22-08-2006, 11:43 AM
quote:yeah, i agree. What a load of crap. He even faked the dislocation, i have never seen anyone in this kind of sport who was able to carry on after a dislocation. No one has.

mmm, you speak what many have thought!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hey, you MMA fans will remember when Elvis went in the UFC and had a great win (commentators gave him big accolades after that) only to be matched with Tito Ortiz (for a 'title' fight if I'm not mistaken) who gave him a rather nasty touch up?
On Xplosion last week I didn't think Elvis looked anywhere near as sharp as those earlier fights.
Anyone else think the same?

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Downcut
22-08-2006, 11:57 AM
Absolutely!

Zviggy
22-08-2006, 11:59 AM
Voice, why the heck would he fake it?? Jamie popped his shoulder in a grappling tournament earlier this year and went on to win his match. Of course he must of been faking it there as well hey?? <img src=icon_smile_question.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Voice
22-08-2006, 04:37 PM
mate no idea. I've seen plenty of popped shoulders from football to wrestling. I suffered one in a karate demo and it simply goes DEAD, no strength. NO ONE simply has it popped back in and continues with 100% strength and without unbearable pain. There were no pain killers administered.

I'm not accusing him of anything, just I've never seen a seemingly serious injury 'popped' back into place Mr Miyagi style and the fighter quite comfortably going on to a painless victory.

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Hironaka
22-08-2006, 06:03 PM
Not true. Riggs on Lethal Weapon 2 could pop his shoulder in and out anytime he wanted and then go and bash corrupt South African diplomats.

justees
22-08-2006, 06:18 PM
quote:
NO ONE simply has it popped back in and continues with 100% strength and without unbearable pain. There were no pain killers administered.

I'm not accusing him of anything, just I've never seen a seemingly serious injury 'popped' back into place Mr Miyagi style and the fighter quite comfortably going on to a painless victory.



lol, because thats what it looked like, a painless victory. Put down the crackpipe and step away from the keyboard.

justees
22-08-2006, 06:24 PM
If anybody should be questioned regarding the incident it should be the referee it was his decision to allow the shoulder to be popped back in.

Implying that James faked an injury(which i can assure you has been a recurring problem for him,) in the hope the ref wouldn't award a TKO victory to his opponent is retarded. Especially when he went on to dominate the rest of the fight.

Voice
22-08-2006, 07:53 PM
long time viewer, first time poster!? LOL.
And how are you related to Jamie?

Seriously, one can be excused for doubting some of the MMA incidents in NSW.
There is far too little outrage from the fans here with regards to the incredulous happenings that take place and as such no pressure for tighter surveillance. You may well be right about Jamie and I hope you are, but he suffers from being tarred with the same brush as other Sydney shows.
In this regard, Qld seems lightyears ahead, from the few tourneys I've seen there.

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justees
22-08-2006, 09:48 PM
I've fought MMA on shows in Both states and i agree QLD is light years ahead, but they have been puttin on MMA shows regularly for the last 6+ years and have at least 3 dedicated MMA promotions, in NSW the only dedicated MMA promotion is KOTC (although now a lot of Kickboxing promoters are putting MMA fights on too).

I agree that there has been a few dodgy incidents in MMA here but i dont see how the fighter should be judged by the actions of the referee in this case.

bigbrother
22-08-2006, 11:01 PM
Ok guys i'm here to put everyone straight. James TeHuna first popped his shoulder out when he fought Api Hemara in the Gold Coast about four years ago. He did not know what had happened and he got submitted about 10-15sec later and lost of course. Since then it's popped out at least 10 times in training etc. It's got to the stage when it pops out he knows exactly how to put it back in with a helping hand. Every time it pops out he ices it gives it rest and then trys to strengthen it with various dumbell exercises. This is only the second time it has come out in an actual fight.
He is considering having a shoulder reconstruction but it will take him out for too long and it would be a hard road for him to get back at where he's at now. He is also at the turning point of his career and being half Maori he thinks "It'll be sweet!" As for the controversy James was dominating from the start and when his shoulder first popped out he was clearly in no trouble and clearly was showing that his shoulder was out to his opponent and the ref for 10-15sec at least. And remember his shoulder came out from just going through the motions. His opponent did not pop it out and did not submitt him. He just wanted a couple of seconds to just put his shoulder back in and carry on with the show cause he is a fu**ing warrior. He went back out there and dominated the fight again. It was a shame he couldnt use his right hand after that because he has the sickest hands and makes pro boxers look silly. It was obvious during that fight he couldnt defend on the right cause he kept getting rolled on that same side from top mount. And check this out his gets kicked in the head while he was still on the ground the fight was stopped for him to recover from an illegal strike. He could have played on that but no he went out and fought again like a warrior. So for all these people who said this fight was a load of crap and that James was faking it you obviously don't know what a "fight" is all about. I bet you guys are just skinny little nerds who have never had a fight in your life and like to get all staunch behind a keyboard. I'm James Te Huna's older brother "Tama" and if you would like to talk about this further come and see me on the next shows. Ha ha some people just make me laugh. Keep going Jamie your going to make it to the top.

justees
22-08-2006, 11:43 PM
Thanks for clarifying Tama.

Voice
22-08-2006, 11:47 PM
good on you for clearing that up Tama. That pretty well makes it clear now. I hope he does get an operation at some stage as these things never improve much with constant trauma.
And yes, he did dominate the fight, but the refereeing did confuse even the most die-hard of MMA fans.

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Downcut
23-08-2006, 11:09 AM
It's good that you're on here Tama.
Since you're a ref too, what would the ruling be in a situation like the one that your brother was in? Are you allowed to ask the ref for time to recover or is it just hard luck?

Hironaka
23-08-2006, 11:28 AM
Bushido & UFC 62 this weekend guys, what is everyone looking forward to from these events?

hudsonhawk
23-08-2006, 01:20 PM
Don't know if anyone's interested in this but George Sotiropolous competed in Enson Inoue's Kokoro:Kill or Be Killed on 8/15. Not sure if the result was posted or not but the link to the event report is here:

http://kakuto.com/article.php?sid=1714&mode=&order=0&thold=0

Hironaka
23-08-2006, 02:37 PM
Is this the same George LongGreekName that bailed out of a fight with Lion Takeshi Inoue due to gastro 10 days out from the event?

If so, I am glad that his tummy is better.

Zviggy
23-08-2006, 03:09 PM
Hironaka, yeah its the same guy. Also you should participate in our fantasy mma betting comp we have going here:

http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/board,42.0.html

We will hopefully have odds for UFC 62 and Bushido in the next 24 hours or so.

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Adambjjoz
23-08-2006, 10:33 PM
Zviggy's just plugging the tipping comp because for once in his life, he's winning something :)

Hironaka
24-08-2006, 12:16 PM
Just changed the title to reflect the massive news that Georges St Pierre is officially out of UFC 63 and his replacement to take on Matt Hughes for the Welterweight title is the man to last defeat him, BJ Penn.

Massive news, what a win for the UFC ...

Discuss

Hooky
24-08-2006, 12:21 PM
This is a good little thread you got going hiro.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

samuaythai
24-08-2006, 12:26 PM
quote:
Just changed the title to reflect the massive news that Georges St Pierre is officially out of UFC 63 and his replacement to take on Matt Hughes for the Welterweight title is the man to last defeat him, BJ Penn.

Massive news, what a win for the UFC ...

Discuss


great news warrrrrrrrr penn and i also seen ian schaffa vs genki sudo on k1card warrrr ian.

Hironaka
24-08-2006, 12:40 PM
I would seriously be so happy if Schaffa KO's Sudo, however that is under K1 rules and is not relevent to this thread.

Hironaka
24-08-2006, 12:43 PM
Also, do you seriously wish to see Penn beat Hughes?

And I guess this means that the rumoured match-up between Penn and my favorite and your favorite, Kuniyoshi HIRONAKA, will not be taking place ... that sucks.

samuaythai
24-08-2006, 01:08 PM
quote:
Also, do you seriously wish to see Penn beat Hughes?

And I guess this means that the rumoured match-up between Penn and my favorite and your favorite, Kuniyoshi HIRONAKA, will not be taking place ... that sucks.


yes i do seriously wish to see penn tap hughes out i thought that was u fighting penn hiro.

Hironaka
24-08-2006, 01:26 PM
Well, I guess I am alone in my hatred for cocky, chubby fighters named BJ Penn.

It certainly would make things very interesting if Penn does beat Hughes though, Zuffa would be able to stretch out the Hughes/GSP/Penn triangle for at least another year.

Zviggy
24-08-2006, 01:31 PM
Ok odds in the betting comp for UFC 62 and Pride Bushido 12 are up at

http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/board,42.0.html

Dammit i really wanted to see Hughes vs GSP II instead of Penn vs Hughes II. Will be interesting though.

If Penn beats Hughes, does GSP fight Hughes before the winner of that gets a shot at Penn? and then the winner will fight for title? Where will it leave Sanchez?

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Hironaka
24-08-2006, 01:40 PM
quote:
Dammit i really wanted to see Hughes vs GSP II instead of Penn vs Hughes II. Will be interesting though.

If Penn beats Hughes, does GSP fight Hughes before the winner of that gets a shot at Penn? and then the winner will fight for title? Where will it leave Sanchez?


Yeah, good point. It is the only division in the UFC with any real drama in it. I think if Hughes wins, GSP has to get the next shot while I think Sanchez will get a tune up scrub as they won't want to jeopardise the massive drawing power of a Sanchez/Hughes title fight.

If Penn wins, I think we will see BJ/Sanchez with Hughes/GSP II on the undercard for the number one contendership. Maybe ... who knows, a lot of possibilities there.

Zviggy
24-08-2006, 01:44 PM
Yeah deinfately Hironaka. Would they do Penn vs Hughes III if Penn takes first two?

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Hironaka
24-08-2006, 02:01 PM
Hard to say, if Hughes loses to BJ I can see him taking a back seat to the 'new blood', for lack of a better term, of GSP and Sanchez.

Adambjjoz
24-08-2006, 04:32 PM
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/pict/200402/01/040201_kak_ufc_penn010_b.jpg


It will happen again.

Matt has nothing new to offer since the last loss.

cut cut strike
24-08-2006, 08:23 PM
No chance. Hughes has improve heaps since Hughes Penn 1, he is a more rounded fighter since their last meeting and he will continue to rule the division.
Hughes all the way

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 06:34 PM
bushido time.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 06:40 PM
allright jeff curran vs hioki
hioki by dec



Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 18:01:28

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 07:06 PM
jason black vs shinya aoki

aoki by sub rnd1

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 18:12:34

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 07:08 PM
lovely canarie yellow pants on aoki<img src=icon_smile_dissapprove.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 07:19 PM
gilbert melendez vs obiya nobuhiro

melendez by dec


Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 18:37:45

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 07:46 PM
chris brennan vs tatsuya kawajiri

that was fasssssst kawajiri by tko rnd1

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 18:51:30

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 07:58 PM
cristiano marcello vs ishida mitsuhiro

ishida by dec

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 19:19:29

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 08:26 PM
luciano azevedo vs hayato sakurai

sakurai by stoppage due to cut from knee

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 19:36:32

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 19:37:50

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 08:44 PM
butterbean vs ikuhisa minnowa

minnowa by sub armbar rnd1

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 19:50:36

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 09:19 PM
denis kang vs amar suloev

denis kang by sub choke rnd1

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 20:25:38

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 09:33 PM
ryo chonan vs paulo filho

filho by sub armbar rnd1

""yeah hiro i know i picked chonan what was i thinking""

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 20:41:29

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 09:46 PM
akihiro gono vs mousasi

akihiro gono by sub armbar rnd2

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 21:07:32

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 10:18 PM
dan henderson vs misaki kazuo

misaki kazuo by dec

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 21:37:13

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 10:46 PM
takanori gomi vs david baron

gomi by sub rnc rnd1

well thats it for another bushido.

Edited by - samuaythai on 26 Aug 2006 22:04:14

samuaythai
26-08-2006, 11:06 PM
now for lidell vs babalu <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_approve.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

""not long now""

<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Edited by - samuaythai on 27 Aug 2006 10:29:38

samuaythai
27-08-2006, 03:31 PM
lidell tko rnd1 fassssst and easy.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

babalu<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Kuri Kinton
27-08-2006, 07:06 PM
The Bushido event last night was great. I put some of our pix up here if anyone is interested. http://kakutougi.info/index.php?option=com_rsgallery&catid=25

As for Hughes vs BJ II...it is indeed a good fight, but I was far mnore interested in seeing GSP get his shot as he has really earnt it.

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Hironaka
29-08-2006, 10:30 AM
Ok, some big events in the past few days, my thoughts ...

- What did I tell you about Aoki? Dude has some of the slickest BJJ in all of MMA. Truth be told, Black was never that good, but Shinya made him look like an amatuer.

- Melendez, one of my favorite fighters, is an animal, if the rumours are correct that he is in the mix to fight Gomi for the title, then you can mark that down as a potential fight of the year already.

- I didn't see much of the Henderson match, but I am glad he got beat.

- I hear that FSN in the states butchered the Bushido show, so download the Jap/Korean versions.

- Another UFC PPV sucks, big suprise.

- What the **** was Babalu thinking? I feel like knocking him out myself.

Adambjjoz
29-08-2006, 11:42 AM
What the hell was Babalu thinking ?

It looked like he just stopped fighting & started chasing a bug like a retarded kid or something............... I mean......... chasing a fighter with both hands extended out like that? And one that counterpunches like a sledgehammer?

What is it with Liddell's opponents having brain farts when they fight him?


*And on a lighter note*: I'd like to once again remind (and rub it in to all) those in the infinitemma.com tipping contenst that i've now picked the winner 23 out of the last 25 fight's, across K-1, UFC, Pride FC, Pride Bushido and WFC events :)

Zviggy
29-08-2006, 03:53 PM
Yet Adam, your pick percentage and total purse is still lower than mine :-)

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Hironaka
29-08-2006, 04:55 PM
I can't even talk about the Babalu/Liddell fight ... I am seriously that pissed off about it.

The rest of the card sucked, as expected, except for my nigger (not meant in a racist way), Cheick Kongo. This dude is screaming to be matched with Arlovski in the future, should be a very rare technical war in the Heavyweight division.

While killing **** in a business sense, talent-wise the UFC is in the worst shape it has been in since Zuffa took over, in my opinion.

Adambjjoz
29-08-2006, 11:56 PM
LOL, Zviggy.

About my luck, too.

I managed to bet large on Gomi, Arlovski and Suloev - all when they had their like 2 or 3 year run of being undefeated, ended by upset losses :(

If i hadn'r put money on those fight's, i'd be ahead of you right now....

*Waves clinched fist in your general direction*


Hironaka - The UFC has only gotten worse and worse since Zuffa LLC took over the show. With limited funding and PPV not in all US states, this was Bob Meyorwitz's last UFC card:

1. Tony DeSouza vs Steve Berger
2. B.J. Penn vs Joey Gilbert
3. Matt Lindland vs Ricardo Almeida (MW Title Eliminator)
4. Semmy Schilt vs Pete Williams
5. Shonie Carter vs Matt Serra (LW Title Eliminator)
6. Chuck Liddell vs Kevin Randleman (LHW Title Eliminator)
7. Carlos Newton vs Pat Miletich (WW Title fight)
8. Randy Couture vs Pedro Rizzo (1st Title Fight) (HW Title Fight

Now fast forward 5 years in time, with the UFC having a botomless pit of money from it's billionare owners and the ability to sign up to fight, whomever they'd like too....... Dana White gives the world at U.S. $50.00 per PPV:

UFC 58:

1. Tom Murphy vs Icho Larenas
2. Jason Lambert vs Rob MacDonald
3. Sam Stout vs Spencer Fisher
4. Mark Hominick vs Yves Edwards
5. Nathan Marquardt vs Joe Doerksen
6. Georges St. Pierre vs B.J. Penn (WW Title)
7. Mike Swick vs Steve Vigneault
8. Rich Franklin vs David Loiseau (MW Title)


Disgracefull.

Zviggy
30-08-2006, 09:41 AM
1. Tony DeSouza vs Steve Berger
2. B.J. Penn vs Joey Gilbert
3. Matt Lindland vs Ricardo Almeida (MW Title Eliminator)
4. Semmy Schilt vs Pete Williams
5. Shonie Carter vs Matt Serra (LW Title Eliminator)
6. Chuck Liddell vs Kevin Randleman (LHW Title Eliminator)
7. Carlos Newton vs Pat Miletich (WW Title fight)
8. Randy Couture vs Pedro Rizzo (1st Title Fight) (HW Title Fight

Adam, that was not Bob Meyorwitz's last card. Zuffa were in control of these event. Might want to add how much the fighters were getting paid on Bob's last show.

UFC's heavyweight division sucks. The light heavyweight is quickly running out of fighters. The Middleweight division isnt looking too bad with Nate, And. Silva and Franklin. Welterweight division is the bomb with lots of fighters lining up for their shot. Lightweight division is SLOWLY making its way back.

Yes not ideal but if anyone thinks that any North American organisation is doing better, they are kidding themselves.

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samuaythai
30-08-2006, 10:31 AM
well finally got my infinitemma.com account up and running for some reason i couldnt seem to post in forum oh well.ladz dont mind a bit of a bet so i will be interested in your fight betting sounds like i have got alot of catching up. <img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Zviggy
30-08-2006, 10:42 AM
SAMuaythai, whats your username on infinite? Looking forward to seeing your bets. Only 6 out of 25 participants have managed to make a profit so far. LOL

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samuaythai
30-08-2006, 05:06 PM
zviggy satapnyaout fella hope to be cashing in<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Adambjjoz
31-08-2006, 02:06 AM
OK guys,

The PrideFC Openweight Grand Prix Finals are on in 10 days time.

Here's the card:

1. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (Brazil) vs. Cyrille Diabate (France)
2. Yosuke Nishijima (Japan) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (Brazil)
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura (Japan) vs. Yoshihiro “KISS” Nakao (Japan)
4. Open-Weight GP: (Reserve Match) Sergey Kharitonov (Russia) vs. Emelianenko Alexander (Russia)
5. Open-Weight GP: Vanderlei Silva (Brazil) vs. Mirko Cro Cop (Croatia)
6. Open-Weight GP: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil) vs. Josh Barnett (USA)
7. Ricardo Arona (Brazil) vs. Alistair Overeem (Holland)
8. Open-Weight GP: Final

cut cut strike
03-09-2006, 04:26 PM
Chuck THE ICEMAN Liddell just keeps on knocking these guys OUT!!
I guess he got lucky AGAIN, Chuck gets lucky alot:)
Iceman all the way baby............

Jay 1
03-09-2006, 10:33 PM
quote:OK guys,

The PrideFC Openweight Grand Prix Finals are on in 10 days time.

Here's the card:

1. Mauricio "Shogun" Rua (Brazil) vs. Cyrille Diabate (France)
2. Yosuke Nishijima (Japan) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (Brazil)
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura (Japan) vs. Yoshihiro “KISS” Nakao (Japan)
4. Open-Weight GP: (Reserve Match) Sergey Kharitonov (Russia) vs. Emelianenko Alexander (Russia)
5. Open-Weight GP: Vanderlei Silva (Brazil) vs. Mirko Cro Cop (Croatia)
6. Open-Weight GP: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil) vs. Josh Barnett (USA)
7. Ricardo Arona (Brazil) vs. Alistair Overeem (Holland)
8. Open-Weight GP: Final



The winners will be:
1. Shogun
2.Cyborg
3. Nakamura
4. Kharitonov
5. Crocop
6.Nogueira
7.Arona


By the way, Tito Ortiz vs Ken Shamrock III should be awesome. Shamrock wants to retire on a high and Tito doesnt care. (Tito by K.O!!!)

cut cut strike
04-09-2006, 12:11 AM
Im tipping Cro cop to take out the open weight GP.

Hironaka
04-09-2006, 10:38 AM
No love for Barnett? Style wise, I think he takes Nogueira. I can see this fight looking a lot like Nogueira/Ricco, with the only difference being that Barnett has a better gas tank than Ricco. I think Barnett takes Nogueira down and stays active enough on top, avoiding subs and taking the decision. Either that or he will stand with Nogueira the entire fight, with Nogueira shooting, but never getting the takedown because his takedowns are rubbish.

Zviggy
04-09-2006, 12:20 PM
Tito vs Shamrock III awesome?? I think we could see a death in the cage. Shamrock got saved from getting hurt badly in their last meeting.

Jay1, my tips for Pride openweight exactly the same as yours.

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Hironaka
04-09-2006, 12:24 PM
I can see Arona really really hurting Overeem.

Adambjjoz
05-09-2006, 06:37 PM
Full and updated PrideFC Heavyweight GP Card and fight order, for this coming weekend:

http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/topic,5824.msg45330.html#msg45330
quote:1. Ricardo Morais (Brazil) vs. Lee Tae Hyun (Korea)
2. Yosuke Nishijima (Japan) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (Brazil)
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura (Japan) vs. Yoshihiro “KISS” Nakao (Japan)
4. Ricardo Arona (Brazil) vs. Alistair Overeem (Holland)
5. Open Weight GP Alternate/Reserve Match: Sergey Kharitonov (Russia) vs. Emelianenko Alexander (Russia)
6. Open-Weight GP Semi #1: Vanderlei Silva (Brazil) vs. Mirko Cro Cop (Croatia)
7. Open-Weight GP Semi #2: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil) vs. Josh Barnett (USA)
8. Mauricio Shogun (Brazil) vs. Cyrille 'The Snake' Diabate (France)
9. Open-Weight GP Final: Winner Semi #1 -vs- Winner Semi #2

Hironaka
06-09-2006, 10:33 AM
When was The Mutant added to the card? Must have missed that.

samuaythai
08-09-2006, 04:28 PM
ok owgp almost here cc by dec over wandy, barnett dec over nog,alexander will ko sergey,arona by sub,shogun by brutal im back tko.<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

petepunter
09-09-2006, 12:26 PM
Call me crazy but if i could whack $$ down and get 5-1 or more i would be putting money on Wanderlei Silva to KO Cro Cop.
I was rewatching Final Conflict 2005 earlier in the week and in his fight with fedor he was gassed and out on his feet in two rounds which got me thinking if Cro Cop is so tired from the work rate of a plodding HW he might have trouble with silva's speed .
Silvas power impressed me against fujita heres a guy that is almost impossible to KO and he bombed the **** out of him.
If Silva can take cro cops brutal kicks to the legs and body and gets past the first round and can get on the inside and be successful with combos watch cro cop go down




1. Ricardo Morais (Brazil) vs. Lee Tae Hyun (Korea)-Ricardo Morais via Big KO
2. Yosuke Nishijima (Japan) vs. Evangelista "Cyborg" Santos (Brazil)-Nishijima via Decision
3. Kazuhiro Nakamura (Japan) vs. Yoshihiro “KISS” Nakao (Japan)-Nakamura
4. Ricardo Arona (Brazil) vs. Alistair Overeem (Holland)-Alistair Overeem
5. Open Weight GP Alternate/Reserve Match: Sergey Kharitonov (Russia) vs. Emelianenko Alexander (Russia)- too even to predict
6. Open-Weight GP Semi #1: Vanderlei Silva (Brazil) vs. Mirko Cro Cop (Croatia)-Silva
7. Open-Weight GP Semi #2: Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira (Brazil) vs. Josh Barnett (USA) -Nogueira
8. Mauricio Shogun (Brazil) vs. Cyrille 'The Snake' Diabate (France)-Shogun Rua

Adambjjoz
09-09-2006, 02:33 PM
Infinitemma.com fantasy betting comp lik, for this round of Pride, including full odd's: http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/topic,5913.0.html

Get your tip's in before tomorrow, guys.

Adambjjoz
10-09-2006, 06:15 PM
Pride GP live play-by-play is being done here: http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/topic,5824.30.html

4 fight's in, now.

samuaythai
11-09-2006, 10:44 PM
great event well done pride<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>WARRRRRRRRR CROCOP.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>


WANDY<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>

Adambjjoz
12-09-2006, 12:03 AM
Well done to samuaythai, he won this round of the tipping comp.

Hironaka
13-09-2006, 11:24 AM
Just watched the event last night and what I thought would be a pretty lacklustre event was actually pretty damn entertaining. While it certainly wasn't the best show EVA!!!111 as some sites and boards are reporting, it managed to hold my attention from start to finish, which is extremely rare for a Pride show this year.

Obvious Highlights ...

- Barnett/Nogueira was one of the better heavyweight fights this year. Too bad there had to be a loser in this one, I was hoping and praying for a third round.

- Cro-Cop's annihilation of Silva. Cro-Cop has never looked more ferocious ... ever.

Adambjjoz
13-09-2006, 02:26 PM
Another top notch event from pride.

The GP Semi's and the final were all great fight's. Arona busting Overeems knee with a leg kick had to be the suprise of the night (Other than the dreadfull decision in the Barnett/Nog fight), IMO. Cyborg and Shogun Rua both completely dismantled their opponents in dominating fashion, too. The head-stomp/soccer kick/head-stomp/soccer kick x3 combo to finish the fight off by Shogun was just brutal.

adrian
13-09-2006, 04:10 PM
I can't believe how dominant CroCop was. Silva's loss to Belfort wasn't as bad because he just got caught by a flurry and went down but not out. Against Tito he just got layed on. CroCop just destroyed him though.


http://youtube.com/watch?v=xmc9Wk-Cd50

Checkout the massive cut on Silva's head after the left high kick.

Adambjjoz
19-09-2006, 02:52 PM
There was recently a Fedor article in "Maxim" magazine. Thought some of you may be interested in a quick read of it:

http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/topic,6023.0.html

Hironaka
19-09-2006, 03:50 PM
Nice read ...

So, anyone have any thoughts on the upcoming UFC event ...

Adambjjoz
19-09-2006, 10:23 PM
Well, apart from the fact that it will suck balls harder than a night out with a drunken Elton John........... No.

Here's the card:

Main Event:
Matt Hughes vs BJ Penn (WW title match)

The Rest:
Mike Swick vs David Loiseau
Jens Pulver vs Joe Lauzon
Rashad Evans vs Jason Lambert
Gabe Ruediger vs Melvin Guillard
Jorge Gurgel vs Danny Abaddi
Roger Huerta vs Jason Reinhardt

Hironaka
20-09-2006, 10:49 AM
Man, that card is disgusting ... but then again, so was the card for UFC 37 (Lindland/Busta) and that remains one of my favorite Zuffa produced events ever.

Great main event though. If BJ wins, all hell will break loose in that division. I guess it will be BJ/GSP for the title next, but will they put Sanchez up against Hughes in a title eliminator and risk the massive payday that would come from a Sanchez title fight? Will Hughes get another shot anytime soon?

If Hughes wins, I guess we see Hughes/GSP sometime, followed by Sanchez vs the winner. I don't think they are going to risk losing that Sanchez payday, so I see him getting safe fights leading up to his imminent title shot.

Swick/Loiseau could be fun, but Evans/Lambert is going to suck.

Mark 1
20-09-2006, 01:42 PM
its a pretty lack-lustre event in comparison to Pride last week, bit the final 3 fights are awsome for my money.

Mike Swick is on a tear and is stepping up to a higher level of competition against the Crow.

Jens Pulver being back is just awsome to me. Ive loved watching that guy for as long as i can remember and admire his heart. his striking these days looks phenomonal and even though lauzon is pretty mucha warm up fight to put Jens back on the map, im excited to see it.

Hughes v Penn will be good.. i think Matt will dominate this time, but its impossible to bet against Penn.

adrian
20-09-2006, 02:17 PM
Off topic question, Gomi is exciting to watch because of his KO's, but he always looks like the bigger guy in his fights. Do you think his dominance has a lot to do with him being heavier?

samuaythai
20-09-2006, 04:07 PM
like i said before just want to see bj sub hughes also good to see little evil<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>back in the mix and i think that loiseau will get dec over swick.

Adambjjoz
20-09-2006, 06:35 PM
Gomi is part of the "20 lb's" club.

He and a handfull of other fighter's (Tito, Dan Henderson, Baroni, Alexander Overeem, etc......) cut 20 lb's in the last 24 hours before weigh-in, then come to the fight the next day back at the heavier weight. It also doesn't help that many of Gomi's opponents are natural 135/145 lb opponents, coming up to face him at 159 lb's. Pride doesn't like it when Gomi faces legit fighters at his own weight, he keeps losing to them (Aurelio/BJ Penn/Joachim Hansen).

Kuri Kinton
20-09-2006, 08:27 PM
PReview of next UFC event up here for anyone interested.

http://kakutougi.info/content/view/316/2/

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samuaythai
20-09-2006, 10:22 PM
have been reading around the place mirko has put his hand up as a replacement for wandy to fight ufc rumors of course and there saying mirko versus chuck might be on the cards interesting wandy stepd up will chuck.

chucky<img src=icon_smile_blackeye.gif border=0 align=middle>lhk

Zviggy
21-09-2006, 03:55 AM
I can guarantee one thing though, chuck wont be as stupid as Wand.

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Kuri Kinton
21-09-2006, 07:26 AM
Chuck tends to fight in Crocops kill zone though. He is a counter fighter and likes some space. Silva was obviously trying to get past kicking distance, though he was not too successful.

The fight will never happen, but if it was to happen I see no different result other than Chuck lasting a bit longer.

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Zviggy
21-09-2006, 08:15 PM
Fantasy Betting comp for UFC 63 is now open. Deadline Sunday morning Australian time.

http://www.infinitemma.com/theforum/index.php/topic,6044.0.html

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samuaythai
23-09-2006, 10:21 AM
mma steve irwin
http://content.imagesocket.com/images/film210_600.JPGaf2.jpg


http://content.imagesocket.com/images/film206_600.JPG902.jpg

Edited by - samuaythai on 23 Sep 2006 09:25:19

Zviggy
23-09-2006, 01:11 PM
Those pictures are with my instructor Dan Higgins. Steve was very close to the team. :-(

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samuaythai
24-09-2006, 12:15 PM
quote:
http://sportsnavi.yahoo.co.jp/fight/pict/200402/01/040201_kak_ufc_penn010_b.jpg


It will happen again.

Matt has nothing new to offer since the last loss.


""lets get it on"".<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

Zviggy
24-09-2006, 12:39 PM
Go Hughes!!!

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Adambjjoz
25-09-2006, 12:12 AM
Hughes def BJ Penn via TKO in one of the later rounds of the fight, after Hughes was dominated for most of the fight. BJ then just gassed hard, got taken down and Matt G'n'P'd him for a TKO victory. Was a real ****ty case of one fighter winning the title fight clearly, untill he just puffed out of energy & then just got plastered.

Also today, Renzo Gracie choked Pat Miletich unconscious 3 minutes in to the first round via Guillotine choke, at the IFL 13-fight mega-event. That was a pretty big upset, IMO.

Kuri Kinton
25-09-2006, 01:41 AM
quote:
Was a real ****ty case of one fighter winning the title fight clearly, untill he just puffed out of energy & then just got plastered.



Word is BJ seperated his ribs in the attempt for sub at the end of the second.

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samuaythai
25-09-2006, 11:01 AM
matt won the fight unfortunately bj forgot to put some petty in the tank coming into the third rnd first two bj owned and apart from bj gassing thought bj looked impressive hughes is deffinetly a champion and deserved the win.i also think it was a fare call by matt at the end of the fight when he let bj know that he wasnt to impressed with his fitness but gsp call was a bit harsh.suprise of the night was lil evil getting koed.and my tipping was s..t.

interesting popped ribs.

Adambjjoz
25-09-2006, 01:19 PM
I thought GSP's call on Matt Hughes was correct. Hughes looked like utter poop untill BJ gassed in the 3rd round.



Edited by - adambjjoz on 25 Sep 2006 12:19:35

adrian
25-09-2006, 04:34 PM
Any confirmation on BJ's injury? Cuz if true, then BJ is better than Hughes and Hughes should get reduced credit for his win.

For those who haven't seen it here's the fight. It's streaming so no download necessary.

http://showfile.filevend.com/6325/4Mj6nf2c/ufc63_fight6.htm



Edited by - adrian on 25 Sep 2006 15:34:52

Hooky
27-09-2006, 12:13 PM
"reduced credit" ??? Hughes won the fight fair n square. Credit where credit is due and facts show that hughes was better than bj.
??? i don't understand your comment adrian.

thanks for the link by the way.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain

adrian
27-09-2006, 12:31 PM
quote:
"reduced credit" ??? Hughes won the fight fair n square. Credit where credit is due and facts show that hughes was better than bj.
??? i don't understand your comment adrian.

thanks for the link by the way.

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
Distributor of pain, your loss becomes my gain



What I meant is that if BJ's rib injury was caused by Hughes eg. giving him a big left hook then Hughes deserves full credit for the win.

But if BJ is telling the truth that he seperated his rib when he attempted a sub and moved the wrong way, then that self inflicted injury would have greatly contributed to Hughes win.

Also, if BJ is telling the truth then it really sucks that everyone is saying Hughes won because he had better stamina.

I'm crying a river for BJ.

Hironaka
27-09-2006, 08:19 PM
Australian Machado black belt George Sotiropoulos is set to fight Shooto Middleweight Champion Shinya Aoki on October 14.

Card looks like this ...

2006 Shooto Middleweight Rookie Tournament Semifinal
Class B, 76 KG, 2R 5M
Yuki Konishi vs. Yo****aro Niimi

2006 Shooto Lightweight Rookie Tournament Final
Class B, 65 KG, 2R 5M
Akiyo Nishiura vs. Daisuke Ishizawa

Class A, 70 KG, 3R 5M
Ganjo Tentsuku vs. Takashi Nakakura

Class A, 74 KG, 3R 5M
Shinya Aoki vs. George Sotiropoulos

For The Shooto Bantamweight World Championship fight
Class A, 56 KG, 3R 5M
Shinichi 'BJ' Kojima vs. Mamoru Yamaguchi

Also Scheduled To Participate:
Tatsuya Kawajiri
'Lion' Takeshi Inoue
Ryota Matsune

Awesome fight card, should be one of the best shows of the year.


From http://completevaletudoaccess.blogspot.com:


Edited by - Hironaka on 27 Sep 2006 19:21:01

samuaythai
11-10-2006, 04:39 PM
tito finishes ken off for the last time tko rnd1 ken looking to retire.

Hironaka
11-10-2006, 05:13 PM
Thank god, now everyone can get on with their lives and Tito can start fighting people who are relevent for once in his career.

Hironaka
11-10-2006, 05:15 PM
Now, moving onto other things ...

Look at this toilet of a fight card:

Fedor Emelianenko vs. Mark Coleman
Mauricio "Shogun" Rua vs. Kevin Randleman
Josh Barnett vs. Pawel Nastula
Dan Henderson vs. Vitor Belfort
Mark Hunt vs. Eric "Butterbean" Esch (boxing rules, not MMA)
Kazuhiro Nakamura vs. Marvin Eastman
Joey Villasenor vs. Robbie Lawler

Rumored Bouts (not confirmed):
-Phil Baroni vs. Yosuke Nishijima
-Kazuyuki Fujita vs. Sean O'Haire

Hironaka
11-10-2006, 05:17 PM
Now check out the awesomeness of Bushido!!!

Bushido Grand Prix Semi-Final Match-Ups:
-Paulo Filho vs. Kazuo Misaki
-Denis Kang vs. Akihiro Gono
(The semi-finals and finals will take place on the same night)

Non-Tournament Bouts:
-Takanori Gomi vs. Marcus Aurelio
-Gilbert Melendez vs. Shinya Aoki
-Murilo Bustamante vs. Yoon Dong Sik
-Luiz "Buscape" Firmino vs. Nobuhiro Obiya
-Ikuhisa Minowa vs. Mike Barton

Hironaka
11-10-2006, 06:06 PM
UFC 64 - OCTOBER 14

-Rich Franklin vs. Anderson Silva for the UFC Middleweight Title
-Sean Sherk vs. Kenny Florian for the vacant UFC Lightweight Title
-Jon Fitch vs. Kuniyoshi Hironaka
-Spencer Fisher vs. Dan Lauzon
-Yushin Okami vs. Kalib Starnes
-Cheick Kongo vs. Carmelo Marrero
-Keith Jardine vs. Mike Nickels
-Clay Guida vs. Justin James
-Kurt Pellegrino vs. Cleuder "Junior" Assuncao

Hironaka
16-10-2006, 10:50 AM
Holy ****!

Did anyone else see Anderson Silva demolish Rich Franklin yesterday???

Hooky
16-10-2006, 10:55 AM
I heard that he used the good old muay thai clinch to sort franklin out. Repeatative knee's to the head and body. I thought "ace" was going to hold that belt for a lot longer.
Did you watch the Florian - Sherk match?

Drink up. Shoot in!
Let the beatings begin
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Hironaka
16-10-2006, 01:13 PM
quote:
I heard that he used the good old muay thai clinch to sort franklin out. Repeatative knee's to the head and body. I thought "ace" was going to hold that belt for a lot longer.

Indeed it was the thai clinch that brought Franklin undone, or more correct, it was his lack of ability to either escape or do anything in the thai clinch that brought him undone. I know this will sound hollow now, but I have never been completely sold on Franklin as the dominating force that people have portrayed him as. I thought he had a good all round game, but never really had like excelling talents in any facets of the MMA game. Just a good all round stud. And I always thought that whenever he met someone with a real specialty (ie Anderson Silva with his Muay Thai) he would be exposed.

quote:
Did you watch the Florian - Sherk match?


Kind of, but didn't pay much attention. If there is two fighters who could be in a UFC semi-main event/title match that I couldn't care less about, it's Sherk and Florian. Seriously, are these the best two guys that they could match up for such an illustrious title? The 155 pound division is the deepest in all of MMA, why would the UFC serve up this **** when I could name 10 better and more exciting fighters who I would rather see fight for the title.

This is kind of the reason why I am rather indifferent towards the UFC. Their management rely on a reality show to turn mid-tier fighters into marketable stars rather than going out and signing some real talent.

If you want a better example of this, wait until their number one contender Mike Swick challenges Anderson Silva for the 185lb title.

The only good to come from this show was the 185lbs title has been legitimised and the Hironaka/Fitch fight.

Fitch looks to be the real deal. After almost being caught early with a triangle choke, he dominated Hironaka, who seemed to struggle with the size and strength difference. I hope Hironaka is brought back.

U.LOCO
16-10-2006, 01:52 PM
quote:
Australian Machado black belt George Sotiropoulos is set to fight Shooto Middleweight Champion Shinya Aoki on October 14.

Card looks like this ...

2006 Shooto Middleweight Rookie Tournament Semifinal
Class B, 76 KG, 2R 5M
Yuki Konishi vs. Yo****aro Niimi

2006 Shooto Lightweight Rookie Tournament Final
Class B, 65 KG, 2R 5M
Akiyo Nishiura vs. Daisuke Ishizawa

Class A, 70 KG, 3R 5M
Ganjo Tentsuku vs. Takashi Nakakura

Class A, 74 KG, 3R 5M
Shinya Aoki vs. George Sotiropoulos

For The Shooto Bantamweight World Championship fight
Class A, 56 KG, 3R 5M
Shinichi 'BJ' Kojima vs. Mamoru Yamaguchi

Also Scheduled To Participate:
Tatsuya Kawajiri
'Lion' Takeshi Inoue
Ryota Matsune

Awesome fight card, should be one of the best shows of the year.


From http://completevaletudoaccess.blogspot.com:


Edited by - Hironaka on 27 Sep 2006 19:21:01
Can u pls get the flyer of this fight card thank u.

"WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING IT'S JUST THE ONLYTHING THAT MATTERS"

Hironaka
16-10-2006, 02:40 PM
quote:
Can u pls get the flyer of this fight card thank u.


Sure ...

http://www.x-shooto.jp/schedule/detail/2006/061014/images/poster_l.jpg

And the results ...

Yuki Konishi defeated Yo****aro Niimi Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Akiyo Nishiura defeated Daisuke Ishizawa Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Ganjo Tentsuku defeated Takashi Nakakura Draw 3 5:00
Ryota Matsune defeated David Lejenas Submission (Rear Naked Choke) 1 4:09
Akira Kikuchi defeated Ronald Jhun Submission (Armbar) 1 1:58
Takeshi Inoue defeated Navid Yousefi Submission (Rear Naked Choke) 2 4:35
Shinya Aoki defeated George Sotiropoulos DQ (Groin Strike) 2 0:05
Shinichi Kojima defeated Mamoru Yamaguchi Technical Submission (Rear Naked Choke) 1 1:38
Tatsuya Kawajiri defeated Per Eklund TKO (Punches) 1 4:10

Adambjjoz
16-10-2006, 05:31 PM
Just re-watched Franklin vs Silva again.

I think that's the first time in UFC history i've seen a fighter get trashed so badly by striking, that he regains consciousness 15 seconds after the end of the fight & then starts desprately tapping on the ground, to end the fight <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>:)<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Was really ****ty to hear that Australian fighter George Sotiropoulos, loat to Aoki via DQ (Groin shot) in the Shooto show. Mamoru pretty much lost his fight via strangulation !!!

U.LOCO
16-10-2006, 05:39 PM
Thanks Hironaka.I have spent some time with George,and glad to see him fighting in the show,bad luck but i know it will be a good leason for him,cant wait to see him when he gets back next week.

"WINNING ISN'T EVERYTHING IT'S JUST THE ONLYTHING THAT MATTERS"

Zviggy
16-10-2006, 05:41 PM
quote:
I know this will sound hollow now, but I have never been completely sold on Franklin as the dominating force that people have portrayed him as. I thought he had a good all round game, but never really had like excelling talents in any facets of the MMA game. Just a good all round stud. And I always thought that whenever he met someone with a real specialty (ie Anderson Silva with his Muay Thai) he would be exposed.


Well said Hironaka. I agree as well.

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Hironaka
16-10-2006, 05:53 PM
While I haven't seen the Mamoru/BJ II fight yet, I was suprised as hell when I read the results. Before Saturday night, I had Mamoru as one of the best in the world P4P at the moment.

Hironaka
16-10-2006, 05:56 PM
quote:
Thanks Hironaka.I have spent some time with George,and glad to see him fighting in the show,bad luck but i know it will be a good leason for him,cant wait to see him when he gets back next week.


I thought that George was based out of Japan training with Purebred full time these days?

I read from somewhere else that there were some claims of unsportsman-like comments and behavior from his corner after the dreaded kick to the balls that ended Aoki's night early. Wouldn't suprise me from the Purebred Gangsta's.

Adambjjoz
16-10-2006, 06:10 PM
quote:exert from sherdog:

Shooto middleweight (167 pounds) champion Shinya Aoki pulled a page out of his friend and training partner's Mazakazu Imanari's playbook, tirelessly going for leg submissions in his fight against Australian jiu-jitsu fighter George Sotiropoulos. In fact, the entire first round of his bout was a leg submission war, with both fighters trying to apply heelhooks and ankle locks.

But after a competitive first round, disaster struck in the second. After the bell rang, Sotiropoulos came flying out of his corner with a low kick that inadvertently struck Aoki hard in the groin. The middleweight champion went down in agony and remained there for several minutes until it was clear that he could not continue.

The fight was ruled a disqualification against Sotiropoulos, making it the second time this year that a big fight on a Shooto super-card has been derailed by a groin strike. The first, of course, was the infamous groin shot in the opening seconds of the main event title fight between Joachim Hansen and Tatsuya Kawajiri back in February.

Sounds like it was a good fight up untill the roshambo.

Hironaka
17-10-2006, 11:35 AM
Pride announces additional matches for the upcoming Bushido show ...

Gegard Mousasi (Armenia) vs Hector Lombard (Cuba)

Yoshiro Maeda (Japan) vs Joe Pearson (USA)

Mitsuhiro Ishida (Japan) vs David Bielkheden (Sweden)

Sanae Kikuta (Japan) vs Jean Francois Lenogue (France)

Other match-ups:

Nobuhiro Obiya (Japan) vs Luiz Firmino (Brazil)
Ikuhisa Minowa (Japan) vs Mike Burton (USA)
Murilo Bustamente (Brazil) vs Yoon Dong Sik (Korea)
Shinya Aoki (Japan) vs Gilbert Melendez (USA)

Bushido Welterweight Grand Prix Semi-Final Matches:
Denis Kang (USA) vs Akihiro Gono (Japan)
Paulo Filho (Brazil) vs Kazuo Misaki (Japan)

PRIDE Lightweight Championship Fight:
Takanori Gomi (Japan) vs Marcus Aurelio (USA)

samuaythai
17-10-2006, 01:13 PM
quote:
Pride announces additional matches for the upcoming Bushido show ...

Gegard Mousasi (Armenia) vs Hector Lombard (Cuba)

Yoshiro Maeda (Japan) vs Joe Pearson (USA)

Mitsuhiro Ishida (Japan) vs David Bielkheden (Sweden)

Sanae Kikuta (Japan) vs Jean Francois Lenogue (France)

Other match-ups:

nice another gret bushido line up

Nobuhiro Obiya (Japan) vs Luiz Firmino (Brazil)
Ikuhisa Minowa (Japan) vs Mike Burton (USA)
Murilo Bustamente (Brazil) vs Yoon Dong Sik (Korea)
Shinya Aoki (Japan) vs Gilbert Melendez (USA)

Bushido Welterweight Grand Prix Semi-Final Matches:
Denis Kang (USA) vs Akihiro Gono (Japan)
Paulo Filho (Brazil) vs Kazuo Misaki (Japan)

PRIDE Lightweight Championship Fight:
Takanori Gomi (Japan) vs Marcus Aurelio (USA)


<img src=icon_smile_cool.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hironaka
06-11-2006, 11:56 AM
Pride Bushido Results:

Gegard Mousasi def Hector Lombard Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Paulo Filho def Kazuo Misaki Submission (Armbar) 1 9:43
Denis Kang def Akihiro Gono Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Murilo Bustamante def Dong Sik Yoon Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Luiz Firmino def Nobuhiro Obiya Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Joe Pearson def Yoshiro Maeda Submission (Guillotine Choke) 1 0:54
Sanae Kikuta def Jean Francois Lenogue Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Ikuhisa Minowa def Mike Plotcheck Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Mitsuhiro Ishida def David Bielkheden Decision (Unanimous) 2 5:00
Shinya Aoki def Clay French Submission (Triangle Choke) 1 3:57
Takanori Gomi def Marcus Aurelio Decision (Split) 2 5:00
Kazuo Misaki def Denis Kang Decision (Split) 2

Hironaka
06-11-2006, 11:57 AM
And yes, it sucked as bad as it looks like it sucked.

This event would have put a hyperactive 16 year old Speed Freak with ADD to sleep ...

samuaythai
06-11-2006, 02:10 PM
filho looked fine after the gono fight and then kang loses to misaki ****ttttttt.loved hectors corner you have to knock him f...n out hector didnt come though.

Adambjjoz
08-11-2006, 07:04 PM
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Adam.

Adambjjoz
15-11-2006, 02:22 AM
UFC 65 coming up this weekend:

Full Card...............


Main Card:
Matt Hughes vs. Georges St. Pierre – UFC Welterweight Title Bout
Tim Sylvia vs. Jeff Monson – UFC Heavyweight Title Bout
Frank Mir vs. Brandon Vera
Wilson Gouveia vs. Alessio Sakara
Dokonjonosuke Mishima vs. Joe Stevenson

Undercard:
Graison Tibau vs. Nick Diaz
James Irvin vs. Hector Ramirez
Josh Shockman vs. Jake O'Brien