Ozkan vs Mundine, lol!

[allanf]

Last night on channel 10 sports news i was checking all the sports results, then i saw Gurkan Ozkan sparring Anthony Mundine, wow that was awesome, Gurkan looked huge, lol.

[JANER]

go ssiiick! WHat was the sports news bulletin about?

[QUPNCY]

wouldnt that be a match up then gurk's could fight both who claim that they r "the man"

[apl]

If this was to happen Gurkan would be outclassed and knocked out.
Looks like Mundine will be fighting Danny Green as he is getting nowhere with Don King. Here is a quote from Don King " The Closest Mundine will get too Byron Mitchell is watching him on TV".
Mundine is not doing himself any favours by the way he has been talking to Don King, he is basically trying to tell King how its going to be and is also now insulting him in the press. Bad move for Mundine

APL

[QUPNCY]

lets all remember gurkan beat heath stenton in his first pro box fight for the vic title heath then narrowly lost to a points descision to mundine a year later!

[apl]

QUPNCY,
It really doesn't matter who Gurkan has beat, Mundine has come along way since the Stenton fight and he would simply be too quick for Gurkan. Gurkan is a good kickboxer but a very average boxer I seriously doubt Gurkan going very far as a boxer and what is it with Ozkan everybody on this board speaks of him as if he is Muhammad Ali, and when he fight STAN he is going to get the beating of his life.

APL

[montana]

"what is it with Ozkan everybody on this board speaks of him as if he is Muhammad Ali, and when he fight STAN he is going to get the beating of his life." Well said apl.

Yea.

[sethridge]

Well said !!! Everybody talks as if Ozkan is gods gift. OK fair enough he has a good record but enough is enough!!! there are much better fighters in australia than ozkan but you dont see me and a few other MT fans bringing them into every single ****in topic!! for ****s sake the guys a brawler! Id like to see ozkan fight Paul Slowinski under K1 rules. Pauls not as experinced but i think he would give ozkan the BIG BOCH CHOY. lol. NO offence to ozkan he has acheived alot but you guys from melbourne talk as if the whole kickboxing scene revolves around him!! and that noone else matters! ##NEWSFLASH## it doesnt. and i hope stan knocks him the **** out!!

[Pete M]

i would like to see ozkan mundine

mundine is fast and has great hand speed but has no chin.

ozkan using his explosive technique would knock the "man" out.
gurkan would take the fight to him. and i think the surpreme fighting machine would come out on top


i to would like to see ozkan vs paul slowinski
under k1 rules.
i don't know how good gurkan is with knees

[Dannyboy]

Tired of Mundines silly mouth, good boxer,fast,potential........whatever, he's a trouble maker who uses racial and social issues to bring media attention to himself, and to use as excuses for his failures.
Even if one day he does win a world title to most Australians he's only going to be remembered as the big mouth ****er who constantly tried to compare himself with Ali (by copying Ali's old quotes), not the former League player who changed to the sweet science in the footsteps of his father and became another Aussie world champion.
Why dosent he fight Green, why dosent he fight Briggs, even Ian Jacobs has offered Mundine numerous challenges but had no reply, he'll fight them all one day..........when he thinks their all over the hill and not too much of a threat.
You fellas' might like to watch him and he is very fast, but as soon as he starts flapping his jaw I turn off the T.V. and feed the dog.

[QUPNCY]

mundine has a glass jaw we all saw what happened with sven ottke the guy who supposedly hit like a girl
and who has he fought since all bums except for soliman who should have one even he knew it so know ur facts

[JANER]

Gurkan Ozkan is Gurkan Ozkan, no where near the same sound of Mohammed Ali. Its different spelling

[Servant]

Hey apl, not everyone talks about Ozkan like he is Ali only Janer and all he's aliases. Janer and his aliases think its funny to trash everyone and make personal insults to everyone from Mark Castignini to Jenk Behic to whoever else while bagging anyone who doesnt agree Ozkan is the greatest fighter in history. What goes around comes around.

[JANER]

hey everyone I am Sash!

GET OVER IT! People do like ozkan, just accept it! I think you have the hots for him and he rejected u!

Ohh poor baby!

[Servant]

It's got nothing to do with your hero. Just remember Janer what goes around comes around.

[K UNEM]

SO WHO WAS GIVING IT TO WHO????? MUNDINE CRACKING HIM???

[QUPNCY]

as if k uenm!!!!!!! gurk's is smarter than that

[paul c]

Guys,

One of the reasons Ozkan gets mentioned so often.

It took a while for this message board to attract a diverse bunch of people.

At one stage I reckon 70% of the regulars whom you see on this board now with larger post numbers, were mostly from Melbourne. Many of us would go to the fights on the weekend and then get on line here and discuss the fights. And then discuss them once again once they'd been televised. During this time Ozkan was the main event on a good percentage of the Melbourne shows, and so was and is a very popular subject.
Actually, its only been quite recently that we started getting the members whom much prefer MT and can't understand what the fuss is about regarding any Kickboxing Champions, let alone a big fisted brawler like Gurkan.

[QUPNCY]

ur right off the subject paul c if u r going to reply make sure it is to what the post states!

[Matt]

I would love to see Gurkan smash Mundine but realisticly it is never going to happen. Briggs exposed Ozcans limited boxing skills in their boxing match and proved that his brawling style will not bring him success against world standard pro boxers. Gurkans success in kickboxing is amazing for a ham and egg style bruiser and is a result of his hard work, dedication and fighting spirit. Gurkans 'Rocky style kickboxing persona' is what excites crowds and inspires people when the underdog defeats a fighter like Adam Watt. However will not push the champ as far as defeating boxers the caliber of Mundine or Briggs.

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[paul c]

montana "what is it with Ozkan everybody on this board speaks of him as if he is Muhammad Ali, and when he fight STAN he is going to get the beating of his life." Well said apl.


sethridge "Well said !!! Everybody talks as if Ozkan is gods gift. OK fair enough he has a good record but enough is enough!!! there are much better fighters in australia than ozkan but you dont see me and a few other MT fans bringing them into every single ****in topic!! for ****s sake the guys a brawler! Id like to see ozkan fight Paul Slowinski under K1 rules. Pauls not as experinced but i think he would give ozkan the BIG BOCH CHOY. lol. NO offence to ozkan he has acheived alot but you guys from melbourne talk as if the whole kickboxing scene revolves around him!! and that noone else matters! ##NEWSFLASH## it doesnt. and i hope stan knocks him the **** out!!"

Was giving an oppinion on the above. which by the way is in this thread.

But thanks for keeping it in check dude. What would we do without your guidence.



Edited by - paul c on 21 Jan 2003 12:20:14

[sooty]

Osu Paul C,
Here Here & Well said! Im witcha their bud!
Cheers
Mark

[JANER]

where do I sign to join? lol

Paul C, dont get offended. QUPNCY may have taken offence to your opion about ozkan being a brawler etc etc. I know your an ozkan fan and realise the dialogue and tone from where your coming from.

[paul c]

Hey, there's nothing wrong with being a brawler guys. I find brawlers very exciting to watch.

Hehe, I'm not offended guys. I just thought that QUP sounded pretty funny.
Kind of school teacher like.


It's all good.



Oh, also, I should have actually put quotation marks in regarding the brawler comment. It actully came from Seth's post I think.

Which is cool also.

We're all friends here.

QUPNCY,
buddy, that is one tough nic to remember.
Every time I go to reply, I have to scroll back up to double check it.

Do you mind if we refer to you as 'Q'
I think it sounds James Bond villan like.

[JANER]

lmao

[JAMESG]

Sorry guys, but no-one has mentioned the outcome of the mundine/ozkan sparring session. I am not an Ozkan critic or one of his little fanboys so no disrespect intended. I heard that he got cleaned up by mundine. Mundine was playing with him dancing around Ali style. Apparently Ozkan looked outclassed and very slow and frustrated by mundines antics.
Many wished Ozkan would smash him, but Mundine is a good boxer, no matter what people think of him he does have incredible talent.

Osu

James

OSU

[JAMESG]

I would love to see Gurkan offer Danny Green out. Danny Green is someone to watch out for. I heard (from my inside contacts and todays paper to confirm it) that Danny Green was smashing Paul Briggs in a sparring session. Paul didn't look his destructive self though and might have been going a little easier. Danny Green, Paul Briggs, Nader Hamdan, Anthony Mundine are all guys that Ozkan could challenge, but the reality is for most of the Ozkan fanboys is that he won't. Because he is a better kickboxer than he is a boxer otherwise don't you think he would of switched by now.

Face the facts boys, don't compare Ozkan to the top Aussie boxers, he is a smart guy. If he realy thought he could beat any of these guys I am pretty sure he would be persuing them now. He might be highly regarded in Melb but Sydney's boxing community wasn't impressed by him. He came up to Sydney with all the band of fanboys building him up and he didn't do so well when sparring some of the guys from one of Sydney's well known gyms.

I think he is a great kickboxer, that's is. There is more to Boxing than many kickboxing fanboys would like to believe.

OSU

OSU

[QUPNCY]

first of all paul c read ozkans post in the "drugs in sport" section he has offered to take paul under his rules so there r no excuses so shhhhhhh!! as for u sooty hasnt ozkan smashed ur fighters that u know maybe thats y u r so objective towards him or jealous??hey mr mark tyson!

[paul c]

James,

I believe I read that Tarik had actually challenged Mundine to fight Gurkan. I'm not absoluty certain of this, but please correct me if I'm wrong. The details at the time of reading were pretty sketchy.

[QUPNCY]

where do u get ur information from paul c?????????u really like to make gossip dont u!

[paul c]

Q,


I read it on one of the forums.
Ax or here.


Maybe Gurkan will tell us if it happened.


Gossip,
Yeah, I'm a real trouble maker.

[QUPNCY]

yea and it was this forum that a post came up with "just got off the phone with my mate who is friends with stan and the fight with ozkan is off due to unforseen sircumstances"from a member on here!!

[paul c]

Q

Some confusion happening here I think. Buddy, you're not seeing that I didn't write these things because you mustn't have read the first page. If you did, you would understand that I brought to this page Seths and Montana's comments on Gurkan from the first page, but you don't seem to understand that they are not mine.

I will try and explain this too you, because you're just not seeing the difference in what I have said, and what I'm telling you clearly others have said.


First of all you wrote to me

"ur right off the subject paul c if u r going to reply make sure it is to what the post states!"


You didn't understand why I was explaining to people why Gurkan is so popular.


So, instead of telling you to go read the first page and look for the reason why I wrote it. To save you time and to make it clear to you, I copied Montana's and Seths comments and pasted them to explain to you, why I believe Gurkan is such a popular subject.

But instead of you saying " Ok, I see Paul. You were sticking up for Gurkan.
Instead, you have now taken what Montana and Seth said in Quotation marks, as those words from my mouth. Which those words are not. I allways stick up for Gurkan, because he's my favourite Melbourne fighter plain and simple.

Quotation marks
, They mean I am quoting someone Q.
I don't understand why you don't see that.


Buddy, this thread is on two pages. Why you didn't understand where I was coming from, is because you mustn't have read the first page.

If you do decide to read it, you will see immediatly that I've done nothing to criticize Gurkan.

Seth wrote that Gurkan is a brawler and that he basically couldn't understand why we like him so much... on the first page,

So in reply to that comment, I wrote,

"During this time Ozkan was the main event on a good percentage of the Melbourne shows, and so was and is a very popular subject.
Actually, its only been quite recently that we started getting the members whom much prefer MT and can't understand what the fuss is about regarding any Kickboxing Champions, let alone a big fisted brawler like Gurkan"

You see, basically I was saying to Seth back then, that Seth and guys that are into Muay Thai, will never appreciate Kickboxers as much as their own guys.

But then in the last line I wrote

"Let alone a big fisted Brawler like Gurkan"

This referring to Seths comment about Gurkan being a brawler.

So I added, let alone a "Big Fisted" One.

Can you see here that I am actually sticking up for Gurkan by being slightly sarcastic, where as you have mistaken this as a criticism.



Now finally,

I like Gurkan very much. We say G'day to each every single time we see each other at shows, and we sometimes speak on the phone. Gurkan gives me great access to him as a photographer and I appreciate it very much. He's a larger than life character, and the camera loves people like that. I consider Gurkan an excellent fighter and the most explosive exciting fighter Melbourne and Sydney have to offer. I feel that Gurkan will truelly live up to kickboxing legend Status. Once he retires, he will go down in the Kickboxing History books as one of the Hardest guys to ever step in the ring.
How can you not like and support a guy whom truely has that much heart. Some people don't, and that's cool they don't have to. But they know if there is ever a conversation happening about which fighter has the most heart and b*alls, that Gurkan is the new Australian benchmark for how much heart can one ever have.
I'm one of his most loyal fans, so I don't understand how you take my posts here as being critical.

This is the last I have to say about this.

[paul c]

Q wrote


yea and it was this forum that a post came up with "just got off the phone with my mate who is friends with stan and the fight with ozkan is off due to unforseen sircumstances"from a member on here!!




Are you accusing me of saying that??

[paul c]

On the topic of the sparring session guys,


Lets remember that Gurkan has only had how many boxing fights?
I only know of

Heath Stenton Ozkan win. First Pro Boxing fight and he won the Victorian title.
John Hallford. Draw I believe.
Paul Briggs. Loss points

I even personally thought that Stepping in with Paul Briggs in a boxing fight all that time ago was too big an ask if we compared how many boxing fights each had had, then Paul was definitely at an advantage. The guy is a great boxer and I personally thought that there was only two possible outcomes. Paul Briggs win Points, or Gurkan win KO. But still, this chance that Ozkan could land a brain numbing bomb was very real, and I take my hat of to the Briggs camp for even risking this fight with such a big hitter at such a time in Paul's carreer, as they had a whole lot more to loose.

So, if Mundine did better during a sparring session, then we really shouldn't be surprised. After all, isn't Anthony rated somewhere close to the worlds top 10, and he's quite an experienced Boxer these days with the amount of experience he's now had. So, I wouldn't at all surprise me that Anthoney would be showing more ring saviness. But, if they were to fight each other, that serious risk of Ozkan landing just that one single shot is all too real. And honestly speaking, I think Anthoney at this stage in his carreer would be a very brave man to accept such a fight. The possibility of going horribly wrong for him would be a very real concern. After all, Gurkan can surely hit harder than Ottke.

[QUPNCY]

well paul i do extend app.and i didnt quote that u stated that comment in regards to stan.it was someone else.i was just trying to point out how rumours start.as for mundines rating i have to dissagree he has to fight the best here and not go for any higher take a look at briggs and green for example takin there time not rushing.and both of them would have the man over for a sleep over at whichever venue they fight at. he is good however he should pull up on the reigns and make his way up slowly i mean he has fought bumms past champs and he even called ottke a punching girl! look what happened!he is just after the big pay day however he isnt good enough to recieve it yet!jjl recieved 1 million for the tszyu unification bout and mundine wants that much to fight green!and for green to only get 100,000 can u work it out who does he think he is??

[JAMESG]

Paul C

Top response and I agree with you. But I think guys like Mundine, Briggs, Green have the experience and are prepared for those big hitters. I am not a professional fighter but I've been told I hit and kick harder than most on the circuit but I'm not going to go and fight guys based on that element of my ability alone, know what I'm saying? I think at that level of boxing there is always a level of risk that one punch will get through, and cause the upset.
And your right, guys like Anthony probably wont take the risk unless there is a reward involved be it $$$, reputation, ratings etc.

OSU

OSU

[QUPNCY]

why fight then????????