Benny the Jet H.L

[sweeney todd]

I'm not really a massive Benny the Jet fan, (Re; his unbeaten B.S fight stats etc)
but, credit where credits due,

And of course his trade mark spinning back kick is awesome!

I thought this is a great H.L clip, so enjoy
http://72.0.104.148/Benny.wmv @ 70mb

Cheers Nick



"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Sir Winston Churchill

[babyface]

he is a pure machine

[Imsta]

I am not so sure he is unbeaten, I know there was a web site that showed Benny got smacked by a Thai boxer during the 80 and couldn't even finish the 1st round. They showed Benny picture with stretcher from the ring. Lol.

[TAO @ JTS]

you're right IM benny was beaten by a thai, i've seen the footage also.

CHOK DEE
TAO (JOOK)

[Matt J]

he's not undefeated (the first poster DID agree to that if you look)
he lost to the thai when he couldn't come out for the third round. they fought full muay thai.they fought in 79 in japan.

what isnt as well known is he lost a decision to billy jackson in texas in the very early 80's. it was a great fight, closely fought, but benny got decked at one stage which turned the decision in jacksons favor. from memory it was an 8 rounder, normal kickboxing rules.

bennys publicists of the day acted like neither fight happened, hence his 69-0 B.S record they floated around.

dont take anything away from benny though, he was a gun.

[Matt J]

quote:
I am not so sure he is unbeaten, I know there was a web site that showed Benny got smacked by a Thai boxer during the 80 and couldn't even finish the 1st round. They showed Benny picture with stretcher from the ring. Lol.




benny never got stretchered from a ring. your probably thinking of rick roufus after his stupid fight with changpeuk in 88. rick had absolutely no business being in there with changpeuk at that point.

[Glass Jaw]

The guy was one of the best ever, IMO, regardless whether he lost 1 or 20.

[sweeney todd]

quote: dont take anything away from benny though, he was a gun

Vert true,
Interesting link below,
http://members.aol.com/Thaiboxing2000/muay.html

Cheers Nick

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Sir Winston Churchill

[supermario]

The guy who wrote that article needs to take a pill. Fair enough that Americans like Benny Urquidez, Don Wilson & Dennis Alexio have received favours from sanctioning bodies such as the ISKA & WKA, but still, kickboxing & Muay Thai ARE different sports, regardless of the use of the Thai kick in both sports. Different rules = different sports, simple as that.

[bluey]

Thanks Nick
Great link, I'm a Benny fan so loved it.
Love him or hate him, Benny’s skill and charisma heightened the general public’s interest in the sport of kickboxing.
I’m burning that and taking it straight to the pool room.

[Ghodrat]

quote:
he's not undefeated (the first poster DID agree to that if you look)
he lost to the thai when he couldn't come out for the third round. they fought full muay thai.they fought in 79 in japan.

what isnt as well known is he lost a decision to billy jackson in texas in the very early 80's. it was a great fight, closely fought, but benny got decked at one stage which turned the decision in jacksons favor. from memory it was an 8 rounder, normal kickboxing rules.

bennys publicists of the day acted like neither fight happened, hence his 69-0 B.S record they floated around.

dont take anything away from benny though, he was a gun.




Correct, it was the third round and not the first. I'm not sure if the fight (It was against Prayoud Sittiboonlert) was full muay thai rules, though. I can't remember if elbows were allowed.....Regardless, it was either full mt rules, or pretty close to it.

Benny and his publicists don't act like the Billy Jackson fight didn't happen. They claim it was an exhibition match, so it supposedly doesn't count in his record. Urquidez probably knows most people don't have footage of the fight, so he claims he was bewildered when they were announcing a decision, as it was, as he claims, an exhibition match (Yet if you watch the video Urquidez is acting fairly normal when the decision is being announced).

I even talked to Billy Jackson about the fight, and he had a genuinely hurt look on his face when referring to Urquidez's claim of it being an exhibition fight.

Not that this has anything to do with the outcome of the fight, but I also asked Jackson why the fight didn't allow low kicks, and Jackson said he only fought full contact rules because he had a lower leg injury from when he was a child, so if he ever fought with low kicks there was a high probability of him getting stopped due to the old injury.

The Sittiboonlert fight, Urquidez claims it doesn't count on his record because the gloves weren't regulation sized.....Another BS excuse, as I've seen a few Urquidez fights which had the fighters wearing large gloves, and for whatever reason he counts those in his record (Suspiciously enough, it might be because he won those fights).

Disregarding his apparent ego when it comes to his fight record, he was a great fighter who could have done well in any era.

[Ghodrat]

quote:
quote:
I am not so sure he is unbeaten, I know there was a web site that showed Benny got smacked by a Thai boxer during the 80 and couldn't even finish the 1st round. They showed Benny picture with stretcher from the ring. Lol.




benny never got stretchered from a ring. your probably thinking of rick roufus after his stupid fight with changpeuk in 88. rick had absolutely no business being in there with changpeuk at that point.




Why would you say Rick had no business being in there with Changpuek at that point?

It was a fantastic fight, with Rick almost knocking Changpuek out in the first round, and Changpuek coming back to win by mauling Roufus with low kicks. A great style vs style match-up, very intriguing to watch.

To this day I don't think much of how Changpuek stomped on Roufus's abdomen when Roufus was on the ground, though.

[promoboss]

Hey guys all the bs record stuff aside back in '96 when I was in L.A my wife & I popped into the Jets Gym(moved after the quake)in vanys north hollywood just to try & buy a memento but after metting his lovely family was invited to stay and train with some of his students.
I must say that being an old mt boy the karate styled kb I felt a bit slow with all thier fancy kicks but when it came to power that is where the tables changed after it all I did feel a little bad for hurting 2 of them, but he said they were pro's & it would harden them up.
I must say Benny was a true gentleman with a lovely wife & daughter, and that they welcome anybody with open arms from where ever they from and what ever style they do.
When this was taken Benny was filming "grosse pointe blank"


http://www.photodump.com/direct/promoboss/BennyScott.jpg

It's Better to Burn Out than to Fade Away

[Matt J]

quote:
quote:
quote:
I am not so sure he is unbeaten, I know there was a web site that showed Benny got smacked by a Thai boxer during the 80 and couldn't even finish the 1st round. They showed Benny picture with stretcher from the ring. Lol.




benny never got stretchered from a ring. your probably thinking of rick roufus after his stupid fight with changpeuk in 88. rick had absolutely no business being in there with changpeuk at that point.




Why would you say Rick had no business being in there with Changpuek at that point?

It was a fantastic fight, with Rick almost knocking Changpuek out in the first round, and Changpuek coming back to win by mauling Roufus with low kicks. A great style vs style match-up, very intriguing to watch.

To this day I don't think much of how Changpuek stomped on Roufus's abdomen when Roufus was on the ground, though.




because he had absolutely no idea how to defend or fight with low kicks. this wasnt the roufus of more recent times, this was a 20 year old kid who still only knew full contact karate. he almost got lucky when he caught changpuek at the end of the first with that right hand, but other than that it was a complete mauling. its been years since i saw the fight to be honest so i'm going off memory here, but i clearly remember being uncomfortable watching it, it was that much of a total mauling in the end of a guy who clearly knew nothing about leg kicks at all. makes you wonder why some fights got made.



Edited by - Matt J on 09 Feb 2006 12:25:02

[Ghodrat]

quote:

because he had absolutely no idea how to defend or fight with low kicks. this wasnt the roufus of more recent times, this was a 20 year old kid who still only knew full contact karate. he almost got lucky when he caught changpuek at the end of the first with that right hand, but other than that it was a complete mauling. its been years since i saw the fight to be honest so i'm going off memory here, but i clearly remember being uncomfortable watching it, it was that much of a total mauling in the end of a guy who clearly knew nothing about leg kicks at all. makes you wonder why some fights got made.



Edited by - Matt J on 09 Feb 2006 12:25:02


Back then people in America didn't know much about muay thai or the effectiveness of low kicks (Well, with a lot of people in America that's still the case, but at least for followers of the sport in America it was kind of an eye-opener). It was a full contact kickboxing vs muay thai fight, which was one of the reasons it was modified rules (No clinch, elbows, or knees).

Roufus knocked Changpuek down twice in the first round, breaking Changpuek's jaw with one of the knockdown punches. Changpuek spit his mouthpiece out while he was down and you see blood splurt out of his mouth. Also, Roufus nailed Changpuek with a volley of shots in the following round.

I just see it totally different than yourself, I guess we just had totally different perspectives when we first watched it.