Battle of The Best Super Middleweight!

[JANER]

Hey guys, I was just thinking of whom it may be to have the title of Australias Best Super Middleweight fighter.


It has got to be the winner of OZKAN V HALLFORD.

What do you reckon?

[Pete M]

hmmm
it's a tough one but i would have to say halford
he is tough, smart and i think he will take gurkans technique apart
but thats my opion.

[allanf]

Pete just remember this, Gurkan has beaten John before and he will beat him again, Halford = pound for pound the best fighter in Australia, Ozkan - well its time to pound the pounder lol, im definetly going to pound his. John Halford tough, well that makes Gurkan tougher.

[watercooler]

What was the result Ozcan V Hallford? Was it boxing or kickboxing?

[watercooler]

What was the result Ozcan V Hallford? Was it boxing or kickboxing?

[watercooler]

What was the result Ozcan V Hallford? Was it boxing or kickboxing?

[allanf]

It was boxing.

[watercooler]

well its time to pound the pounder AGAIN!!!!!!!! does anyone know when this fight is going to happen

[Pete M]

i can understand where u are all comming from
gurkan is one of the most explosive fighters around.
but did you see halford vs rapheal tai, i know tai not in gurkans class but, john didn't rush anything and just took tai technique apart. i think that he would do thee same to gurkan.
but it is gurkan ozkan and you never know what the 'surpreme fighting machine' can do



Edited by - Pete M on 24 Nov 2002 20:01:02

[sooty]

John & Gurkan fought in a traditiional Boxing bout, although it must be noted that John gave away over 5 kilo's just to get a fight. Not many people would do this when matched againsted Gurkan.
The bout was very close and the decision going to Gurkan, understandable considering it was in Vic, if it was in NSW the Decision may have been different, thats how close it was.

Now, John would absolutly love to Kickbox Gurkan, but it is not in his control. Gurkan has stated that he would like to fight John again under Kikbox rules, John has stated the same, so a re-match would be a good draw card, "but" as we all know there is a big difference when kicks are involved.

John learned from the bout with Gurkan, he also learned that he can go 8 rds with him no problem, the question is can Gurkan go the rounds with John when he is allowed to slam in the Kicks ? Not just to the legs but everwhere else?

From our point of view we think not... My personal prediction is that John would "stop" Gurkan completly. No disrespect to Gurkan, as he is one of our Kickboxing trailblazers in this country.. But John has had over 90 full contact bouts and he has never been dropped let alone stopped. Gurkan has!

John is also a 5 x time Kyokushin Karate National Champion, this is a "major" achievment in anyones book!

Cheers
Mark

[Glenn]

I agree with Sooty, Halford is a much more complete fighter.

[JANER]

SOOTY: thanks for the detail of their boxing bout as I didnt see it. But Ozkan as a boxer is no where as good as a kickboxer. 99% out of Ozkans kickboxing fights have been under 6 rounds. I dont think Halford could stop him within the duration of a kickboxing fight. Gurkan couldnt put Heath Stenton away in there boxing fight and that was close but not as close as you detailed against Halford. I guess you cant really compare boxing with kickboxing, it could be a little measuring stick I guess.

Also Sooty im not starting an argument just placing my own view as I respect yours, but Ozkan has been dropped by the best. i.e. Paul Briggs, Tibor Vermes and Trevor Ambrose as they were all shots to the head. As for Gurkan recieving kicks to his legs, he was actually stopped by Phil Fagan and Peter Graham. Please tell me if Hallford could mix it up with any of those names and not get dropped? As Ozkan gave 20kg away for Graham! So I guess that negates the fact that Hallford thinks he can drop Ozkan.

And Ozkan taught Tsokonas a lesson whereas Halford drew.

Conculsion: If Halford concentrates on Ozkans legs early, there is no doubt that his superb skill will shine and I hope Gurkan will check every forward step of Halfords!! If Halfords legs dont work on the night, Gurkan will win easily.

[sooty]

Cheers Janer..
I kinda new that you would be the first to post / answer.. You are a true fan no doubt about it. It would be good to see them at it again, plus i figure its our job to bring the Hype to the fore eh.

Cheers .
Sooty

[JANER]

thanks mate!

[paul c]

Mark, wow, that is friggen impressive.
I know John is a great fighter, but didn't know that he's never been stopped.

I saw the boxing fight with Gurkan and John.
I must admit I was pretty bored, because I was just only getting into Shooting kickboxing, and boxing sort of seemed half as dangerous, and half as exciting. But I've since then begun to love it. It didn't realy seem like anything exciting happened during that fight, like I don't remember anyone being rocked or dropped.

Janer, I thought going the distance and defeating Stenton was pretty impressive. I saw Stenton fight Mundine....I know Mundine won, but don't remember which round. So for Gurkan's first ever boxing fight to win the Vic title is doing all right I thought.

[K UNEM]

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[QUPNCY]

what has gurkans year been like i ask???? can anyone answer?? ko'd by briggs??? g o beat hime 5 years ago in kickboxing rematched in boxing and slung it out with him all the way and he has beaten kelly by ko.
australias rising star so called and ozkan went the distance!against watt he was gonna get killed sydney judges weren't they? ozkan win!
againt tsakonas well even there he was gonna get battered but he showed us a different gurkan didnt he with legs as well!!! lets face it guys he's getting better and smarter with every fight y dont anyother supermid's challenge heavy's??? no balls no heart and they would get ko'd true fact.bring on any fighter and he wont back down!so bring all ur champs and he will keep proving u all wrong.

[QUPNCY]

why dont u all just give credit where credit is due it easy to sit on here and bagg fighters who pour their hearts out training getting battered just to please all of us "the fighting public" so alittle more credit and alot less criticism

[JANER]

hehehe Another Ozkan fan! madness. lol Someone else can now back me up!

What does QUPNCY mean or stand for?

[QUPNCY]

have too agree janer
qupncy=que up and see why abbreviated qupncy

[Servant]

janer, just out of curiosity..how many names do you post under now? I remember you once bragged about how you swap names to back yourself up and you are now infamous for it among many people who read all this crap so give us the dirt. 5,10,15?

[JANER]

Sash is another alias of Janer. lol Get over it and dont get jealous, Ozkan is a mad fighter with loyal supporters, WIN LOSE OR DRAW!

[JANER]

and its good to see you can count by 5's!

[QUPNCY]

dont worry janer we know who the champ is!!! G O who always K O's

[Pete M]

what is the lowest weight gurkan has fourght at.
i think when he fourght trevor ambrose he was 74 kilos
if anyone good inform me it would be most greatful.

[QUPNCY]

i have a feeling it was at 76 77 kg not 100%though

[QUPNCY]

y isnt there a k1 super max with super middleweights?? then get the best and have it running in conjunction with k1 gp and k1 max it seems to be the way things r heading