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muaythaimayhem
06-12-2005, 05:00 PM
Now this could be a bit touchy, as some might not want to share their "secret" workouts :) Just wondering what I have to aspire too, to be fighting fit. I am not a fighter, and I never will be due to me being as blind as a bat without my contact lenses in, very short sighted indeed.
My morning session I go to a local gym and go flat out on the rowing machine for 15mins, then 15mins on the bike. (when I was running morning and night I found I developed shin splints too easily, me being 6'2" and 94-100kg) So 30 mins total, because thats all I can afford time wise anyway before I go to work.
In the evening I do a combination of running, skipping, calisthenics and rounds on the heavy bag or pads and shadow sparring to sometimes iron out technique I think I might not be throwing quite right.
At the moment I am doing a 3.6km (this will increase to 5.5km over the coming months) run around the block in 4min/km, have a 5 minute rest, then I do 5 "skipping" rounds (with no rest in between these sets) of 5 minutes skipping pretty much 85-90%, and 100% flat out for the last 30 seconds of each 5 minutes, then I do a number of calisthenics, (I mix up the ab exercises, well all the exercises on a day to day basis. But generally calisthenics wise I will do pushups in sets of 25, crunches in sets of 25, side to side crunches, leg raises with emphasis on keeping the legs a couple of inches from the ground at bottom and opening the legs outwards horizontally and hold for a split second, bring them back to centre and then raise them again to near 45 degrees from floor, lunges, step up step downs, squat front kicks, squats, {edit} I wont do all these after skipping, but definitely 3 types)
Then I have a minute or two rest after the "skipping" rounds and do 5x3min rounds (last round is a grappling round with knees whilst holding onto the bag) on the 5' heavy bag or thai pads with 30 seconds rest in between. Sometimes I will tag on 5x3min shadow sparring rounds around my kitchen table doing a different combo each face of the rectangular table, whilst moving around it.
Other than the above workout in the evening, I just hit the heavy bag for 12x3min rounds with 30secs rest in between, and do some calisthenics afterwards, instead of the run/skipping
I will catch up with my trainer once a week on saturday and do some technique stuff and sparring, also do weights once/twice a week.
Would be definitely good to hear your routines (exercise type wise, reps wise, rest wise etc), as I guess I will just continue to build slowly and steadily on this. Mind you when I started out years ago, I couldn't even run 800m in 12 minutes, that's how fat and unfit I was, absolutely disgraceful, but i'm glad I have at least the fitness to do the above as opposed to nothing at all.

cheers


Edited by - muaythaimayhem on 06 Dec 2005 17:26:38

Bushi
06-12-2005, 05:09 PM
Mate,

You don't need any help at all....I'm exhausted just reading that..:D]<img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

GREAT motivation you have, well done..

Bushi

"Yours in Bushido"

muaythaimayhem
06-12-2005, 05:19 PM
cheers zdkbushido, I try my best generally, that's for sure. Just built it up slowly over a couple of months.

promoboss
07-12-2005, 08:29 AM
MTM, do you give yourself a day off to recover during the week?
Sounds like you need some recovery time for the amount of training you are doing mate, also you should look at getting some massage time in also( not the happy finish kind either) just to relax your muscles and eas up on the joints a bit.
but mate glad to see that you've taken the bull by the horns and have gotten great results, keep it up BUT have some you time in between.:)

It's Better to Burn Out than to Fade Away

Donny
07-12-2005, 08:52 AM
MTM,

AWESOME training regime!!

94kg - 100kg.... 6kg is a fair weight fluctuation.

Fuelling your body correctly (nutrition) is equally important as conditioning your body.

There have been some very good posts on this forum from Tao and Harls regarding this topic and the correlating factors.

72% of muscle content is water............

muaythaimayhem
07-12-2005, 10:01 AM
Promo yeah I have Sundays off generally, well I do one of my weights sessions on sunday arvo, and Monday morning off, train the other mornings and nights though generally, unless I tear something, last week I had off due to a niggle in the right calf unfortunately, very frustrating when you have goals set down and a burning desire to achieve them. Mate you know I have never had a massage, I should do it, but i've been fine injury wise so far this time around, ended up with shin splints very bad last time around.

Donny sorry mate, I guess what I am saying is that, my lightest, when I was training last time around, was around 93kilos (11% body fat, was pinch tested by PT), but once I started weights (and continued to binge drink on saturday nights :)) I stuck around 96 kilos for a long time, then gradually over 2 years (and stopping training) bumped up to around 106 (which is what I weighed until September this year, now I'm down to 98 again at the moment, with goals to reach low 90's ultimately. I just gave that range because I was losing weight, and I booze up :)
I also drink at least 3 litres of water a day by the way. I eat well, no cutouts of carbs or anything, I think food is very important (I dont take any supplements, maybe a vitamin B occasionally), and I have seen my own stable mates not eat to lose weight, and it is just not right in my eyes, one bloke in particular trained that hard and didn't eat and actually lost muscle (due to high heart rate and no energy obviously), and had body fat on him still, but was worn out in the second round of his first and second fights, that's saying something isnt it.
So i'm doing ok then by the sounds? I'll keep it up for another 3 months, increase the load slightly with the running, and have a 2 week rest I think, around March.
I mean you read stories of JWP etc doing 3 hours of training in the morning and in the afternoon, I don't know how they don't break down after that all year round.

Cheen Machine
07-12-2005, 12:05 PM
Me personally i train 4-5 nites a week classes on Monday, Wednesday and Thursday (Muay Thai). On tuesday nites and Friday nites (Friday if i m not working) my trainer lets us come in and use the gym bags and pads. I run 4kms every nite b4 i train. i go to the gym on tuesday and thursday arvos. and i have dropped from 90 to 75 kgs.

You can talk all ya want but talk is cheap.

muaythaimayhem
07-12-2005, 02:12 PM
Good stuff Cheen machine, thats a good effort indeed, bet you feel 150% better than you did. Just amazing isnt it, how much easier it is to move around, and do other different activities, and when your at that heavier weight you think it's normal. thanks for sharing what you do.

Mchenry
08-12-2005, 07:04 PM
If you wanted to fight with contacts in you can you just need someone capable of putting them in for you ,if they happen to fall out.Referee will call time if it happens as long as opponent is aware of situation.May struggle to get oppossing trainer to agree if your fighting for world title thou.

Lothene
08-12-2005, 07:26 PM
Have you thought of getting your eyes fixed by laser? I know it's expensive but if you really want to fight it might be an option.



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muaythaimayhem
08-12-2005, 09:05 PM
Lothene at the moment my eyes are still changing, i.e. they are still gradually getting worse every year, and my optometrist says I can't do it until they settle down unfortunately. I would love to throw the contacts away, believe me if I had a chance I would, $4-5000 is nothing compared to being able to see again without aid.

muaythaimayhem
08-12-2005, 09:05 PM
quote:
If you wanted to fight with contacts in you can you just need someone capable of putting them in for you ,if they happen to fall out.Referee will call time if it happens as long as opponent is aware of situation.May struggle to get oppossing trainer to agree if your fighting for world title thou.




I thought this wasn't allowed?

Mchenry
09-12-2005, 05:52 PM
No rule says that you are not allowed to compete wearing contacts .I trained a girl who had three fights wearing them .1 win 1loss 1 draw all good fights.With the training regime your doing it will be a bloody waste if you did not compete.Make sure to label contacts left and right and have friend or cornerman practice at one of your sparring sessions use the cheap contacts because their impossible to find on the canvas.On a lighter note did you ever see the movie See no Evil hear no Evil .Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder classic fight scene with the deaf Wilder yelling instructions to the completely blind Pryor.Left hook at 3 oclock.

RAKY
09-12-2005, 10:22 PM
hey Mick you going to the fights tommorow?

D RAK

Mchenry
09-12-2005, 10:52 PM
Yes should be some good fights .Chad Walker should be to good,but it only takes one punch.