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JANER
02-11-2002, 08:50 AM
Sorry to say guys but why is it that Mark Castangini always goes against Ozkan? Its every single fight man, its starting to get me really annoyed <img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

Well, Ozkan won fair and square. Adam Watt was a bit ahead of himself it wasnt funny. Yeah he won some good fights in the past but dont be stuck up! Everytime he copped a BEAUTY he smiled. Ozkan got through many times! Also with some great body rips!

Arrogance eat your heart out! Watt only won 1 "CLEAR" round. There was one close rounds but Ozkan won 4 rounds easily. It wasnt rigged. Far from it. Ozkan beat him clearly. See those evasive skills!!!?? Must be learning off Sammy SOliman! lol

If Watt left his arrogance at home, he would of had a cracker of a chance. As we saw in the last round when he realised hed better pick it up!


****Bring ON STAN! and watch Ozkan take out the MAN!!!!!****<img src=icon_smile_angry.gif border=0 align=middle>

paul c
02-11-2002, 11:37 AM
Having now seen the replay,

I still give it to Gurkan, but it was a fair bit closer than I originally thought watching it live.


Still a good win regardless.

apl
02-11-2002, 12:59 PM
I think the scorecards were way off , I agree with "The Hammer" it should have went the way of Watt or a draw. There is no way Ozkan Won every round 10-9 what a load of ****. Tarik is a corrupt **** who fixes fights.

Thats All,

rebel
02-11-2002, 01:28 PM
I had 3 rounds for Ozkan, 2 for Watt, 1 a draw.

remy
02-11-2002, 01:30 PM
Ozkan loses it's ok, he wins it was rigged. What a load of crap. Gurkan won on my cards a close fight. THe score cards were way off for my liking but I still believe ozkan won. He had the higher work rate over the fight and was more aggressive at times. One to two points Ozkan won by.

memek
02-11-2002, 01:40 PM
The judges obviously thought Adams Watts kicks were useless so I could guess why the cards were one sided! I didnt see Watts hands connect at all!!!

da GhOsT
02-11-2002, 02:02 PM
ozkan gave watt a run for his money. ozkan wasnt troubled at all of what adam was throwing at him, he was too evasive. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

paul c
02-11-2002, 02:03 PM
Wasn't it amazing how many times Ozkan slipped under Adam's kicks.
****, I'd lost count how many times he done it.

apl
02-11-2002, 03:54 PM
Ozkan threw alot of puches but most were taken on the gloves and ozkan was not landing any kicks either. Whereas Watt was landing kicks and punches, obviously the judges favoured ozkan.
I don't think Ozkan could knock out Watt even if he was wide open, I personally think Ozkan lacks power in his hands as do alot of kickboxers. Tarik may manage both fighters but based on that decision we know who he favours.

What a joke...

Pete M
02-11-2002, 04:23 PM
apl

i agree 100%

paul c
02-11-2002, 04:53 PM
"No power at all in his hands" OK.

I can understand you guys being pissed off with the judges scores. I have to agree, I think it's an outrage that two judges didn't give Adam a single rnd, or a draw in any of the rounds.

I felt Gurkan won, but not by that large a margin.

You see, this is why I think judges need to be held accountable and their actions punished by way of being barred for a certain amount of time after such obvious wrong calls. I think the worst thing about situations like this is that it ruins the win for the other fighter. The poor buggers get booed for something they had no hand in.

Guys, I can understand the frustration, but don't you think it should be aimed at the people responsible for the decision instead of the other fighter and promoter.

I'd bet the last dollar in my pocket that Tarik would have had concerns about outrageous calls going the other way... favouring the home town boy.

So, what was the reason for such a way-out call?
I can understand the rounds we thought were a draw, but not where Adam clearly done the majority of the scoring in the round.

I think a 24month reffing suspension is in order.

remy
02-11-2002, 06:38 PM
Apl, "ozkan lacks power in his hands" I see you are new to the board and the sport so we will ignore your ignorance. If you make a claim explain and back up why you think that, with references to fights over his career.

JANER
02-11-2002, 07:02 PM
APL, dont listen to Remy as he is so wrong. Ozkan has NEVER knocked out an opponent. His power is in his legs and doesnt usually use his hands. Ozkan is known a light puncher and cant take a punch.

So all you baddies who are knockin APL, leave him alone!

Pete M
02-11-2002, 07:12 PM
Janer

do you train with Gurkan?

JANER
02-11-2002, 08:35 PM
Why is that Pete?

qlander
02-11-2002, 11:47 PM
I don't know which fight the judges were watching, but it wasn't the one that was broadcast. No way Ozkan won every round. In fact, isn't there an 8 kick per round rule for above waist fights? Ozkan would have been lucky to throw 8 kicks the whole fight. Ozkan boxed and Watt Kickboxed, surely that should have counted for something. Take nothing away from Ozkan, he fought well (smartest yet) but the decision was another Tarik "don king" Solak special.

Oh, and sorry guys, but why do the southerners continue to put piss poor novice fights on the TV broadcast. There are heaps of awesome champion amatuers in NSW/VIC to fill the undercard of these "prestige" nights, lets see them.

Pete M
03-11-2002, 12:19 AM
janer

have you had a fight before?
and what weight would you fight at

the reason i asked you if you train with
ozkan because you always take his side no matter
what the situation. i just thought that you might train with him.

remy
03-11-2002, 01:17 AM
Glander, they don't have to apply any 8 kick rule. That was more common in the 80's. The scoring was out but Ozkan still deserved the victory. NSW judges often have weird scoring outcomes. Watt kicked but a lot of them missed and were ineffective. You can't score a technique regardless of how good it looks if it is not effective.

Martin
07-11-2002, 06:14 PM
I saw the fight on cable (twice) and also think the judges were on some weird drugs!

You could safely call the fight either way, but not by that margin.

Watt was definitely trying to cruise through on reputation and size alone, and did not really wake up until the end. Ozkan did have his strategy worked out, but did not really land anything that trouble Watt.

I think this bout, while always interesting due to the weight difference, highlights the problem with a larger fighter fighting "down" - its a lose-lose situation for the big guy. If he wins, its because he's bigger, if he loses he looks really bad for copping a hiding from the little guy.

Me thinks Adam was trying too hard to look like he was not trying . . .

JANER
07-11-2002, 06:33 PM
Martin, I couldnt say it any better! Watt would of won if he left his arrogance at home...