K-1 BATTLE OF THE ANZACS 2: Full Card, Schedule

[admin]

Hi Everyone

Dixon McIver will stage the K-1 Battle of the ANZACS 2 on April 30 in Auckland, New Zealand. It will be held at the new TRUSTS STADIUM in Waitakere, which seats around 7,000.

The card is as follows:

TEAM NZ vs TEAM AUSTRALIA

Alexey Ignashov vs Peter Graham

Jason Suttie vs Chris Chrisopoulides

Ron Sefo vs Paul Slowinsky

Peter Samson vs Kevin Blanch

Pola Mataele vs Mitch O'Hello

Taivita Tai vs Brett Zanchetta

Jordan Tai vs Ben "Pixie" Burton

Joe White vs Chris Johnson


The official PRESS CONFERENCE will be held at TVNZ Atrium on Friday Afternoon. The event starts on Saturday night at 7pm and will be broadcast nationally on TV2 on the SAME NIGHT starting at 10.20pm. (I will keep you posted if Fox Sports is picking this up)

Good luck to all fighters... GO TEAM AUSTRALIA!

Michael Schiavello




-Editor-
International Kickboxer
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"He's doing the chicken dance... bork bork bork!"

[J A]

Yep this looks like its going to be a good show!
I am heading up to Auckland for the big night.
I will try get some Photos and Post results as soon as I can.
Aussie Aussie Aussie OI OI OI
Later

[SPADA]

Nice matchups on this card.
I think the Tai vs Pixie fight might be the fight of the night.


cheers Spada

[toss_it_up]

What time is the press conference on Friday?
And where is the TVNZ Atrium?

[supermario]

Just curious, is sniper on team Aus or team NZ?

[Lucy Tui]

Team Australia.......Looking forward to show cant wait ..
Goodluck Dixon for another awesome event.
Regards
Lucy Tui

[John Cav]

I hope Chris Chrisopoulidis gets a better referee this time!

Still kicking strong at 43!

[J A]

Well Its almost time!!!

[Boz]

Good luck to Pixie should be a great fight

Cheers

[Voice]

This is a great card, one of NZ's best for quite a while. I hope Big Chris doesn't roll out of the ring onto the punters below like last year.

Sniper is absolutely pumped, little bastard been threatening me, insulting my manhood and promising punishment at upcoming sparring session. Hopefully he gets a little touchup before winning to teach him some manners to his elders.

He asked for some tips before his fight...i told him 'be good to his mother and to brush his teeth after eating his sheep'...those little critters play havoc on the breath so i am told <img src=icon_smile_blush.gif border=0 align=middle>

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Edited by - voice on 28 Apr 2005 10:55:54

[sniper]

yes its amazing how tough someone can be behind the safety of their keyboard hehe! just want to make sure you can back up those comments of yours in the sparring sessions thats all voice no harm intended hehe.
good luck to all the fighters. i know they are evenly matched bouts so lets put on a great show for everybody then enjoy a few beverages and sheep (oops see voice you are getting me excited already) after the event.
im an aussie this time around so you gonna have to come up with something a bit better than that repetitive joke voice.

[Voice]

Good luck Snipp. No more introductions to my secretaries for you.

-Voice (reigning WMC cruiserweight keyboard champion)

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[shaunw]

good luck sniper

[Voice]

at the risk of 'namedropping' (Shaan, are you there?), Snipp just dropped in and had a bit of a laugh at how he was going to get on the inside of his 7' opponent (author's poetic licence claimed).

He was looking very fit and determined i must say, this fight is going to be a corker, and wait till you see what the lad has in stall for his man!!<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

$5 lottery ticket for Sniper to win by k/o in the 3rd...

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[shaunw]

voice any word on haka or waltzing matilda? or is it a special tribute to you?

[MadMatt]

Good luck to the Sniper, can't wait for this one to be on Fox!!
Should be a great show...Go Aussies!

"Let's get it on!!!"

[shaunw]

im hoping the kiwis win after the disapointment of being a kiwi fan and having to watch them in the anzac test.

[Voice]

until that last comment i was about to take you seriously Shawn !<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Snipp's last word was that this w/e he was an AUSSIE, so I couldn't understand why he threatened to hit me when i reached to remove his All Black cap.

I think he is just one very confused little boy...

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[shaunw]

give him one of those hats with corks on it. sorry voice i will always support the kiwis, not sure why, we cant even win the netball anymore!

[Shaan]

What's up Voice, you miss me?<img src=icon_smile_kisses.gif border=0 align=middle> I'm sure you'll have a million answers to that question. Look forward to it!

[Voice]

no, just one answer.
YES! But now you are back.

Things on this board have taken a sharp turn towards civility since our little tete la tete weeks back, I implore you to stir the pot up and get people feeling insulted again, lest in all our agreement and concurrence, life becomes boring.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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[Shaan]

Voice - that was deep - really, I mean that <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle> Stir things up? Not even your homosexual tendencies towards Sniper are getting a rise... How about you choose something interesting worth arguing/throwing insults about, post the topic and let's get started!

[da GhOsT]

sniper how about a four 'n twenty pie??? do they have meat pies in nz???

"Before You Get Old and wise, You Have To Be Young and Stupid"

[johnny_619]

GODZILLA WINS BY KO IN THE 5TH!!!!

SNIPER LOST

SAMPSON WON

TAI WON

OHELLO GOT KO'D IN THE 1ST



JLa

[johnny_619]

Chief also won on decision.

Go the Aussies.

I think we got done...

Taivita Tai (NZ) vs Brett Zanchetta (AUST)
Winner Zanchetta on points.

Kevin Bruiser Blanch (AUST) vs Peter Punisher Samson (NZ)
Winner Samson KO2

Smoking Joe White (NZ) vs Chris White Sniper Johnston (AUST)
White win 3rd dec.

Mitch Mandingo O'hello (AUST) vs Pola Mataeli (NZ)
Pola via 1st round KO.

Jordan Terror Tai (NZ) vs Ben Pixie Burton (AUST)
Winner Tai 3rd round dec.

Paul Sting Slowinski (Aust) vs Ron Sly Man Sefo (NZ)
Winner dec. Slowinski

Chris Godzilla Chrisopoulides (AUST) vs Jason Psycho Suttie (NZ)
Godzilla by KO 5

Big Red Scorpion Iggy (Now NZ citizen) Vs Peter Chief Graham (AUST)
Winner by dec. round 5 was Chief

Thanks to my mate sting for the results.

JLa

[shaunw]

godzilla koed suttie?? would have been great to watch! wouldnt have picked that!

[allanf]

Sniper lost, wow thats a shock loss???

[k1_fighta]

jezzz We'll done Godzilla!!
great news for the Chief lets see him in the K1 this year!!!!

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[Voice]

sad to hear Sniper lose...he sent me a text after the fight saying he felt off the pace and was caught a bit in the grapple from his tall opponent. He also was a little heavy a few days out so had been running and at the sauna a bit; might have made him a little weak.

Hopefully will hear more soon but he is in nz with the folks for a week.

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[shaunw]

sad to hear he lost, but im also interested in seeing this joe white fight over here,on another forum rex rumble redden said he proved that he prob is the best fighter in south pacific at 78kgs, who can beat him?

[sniper]

there is no way on earth i am going to discredit the way joe wrought me this weekend. i did feel extremely flat and perhaps overtrained but i am not going to make excuses for his good effort really. he was very tall and pretty much used his reach and thai skills very well. i felt like i had absolutely no puff in me from about a minute into the fight which suprised me very much. well done to all the fighters it was a great night and i look forward to rematching joe on the next ki oceania in july this year in nz. pete you are the man bro!

[MadMatt]

Bad luck Sniper but that's a great attitude towards the fight, hope to see you get the win next time!

"Let's get it on!!!"

[HAMMER]

Well done to All the fighters,

Sounds like it was a excellent event again,
Dixon keeps on doing a fantastic job.

Look forward to the big July event.

Hammer

[sniffa]

damn sorry to hear chris..better luck next time

[J A]

Well groovers what can I say!! This show was quite an experience!!
I just got home from Auckland havent had a chance to watch the tape but let me say this!! Dixon Mcivor puts on a great show.. The set up was awsome Big screens Pyrotechnics the whole kit and kaboodle!
Some great fights on the night! Especially the Butcher and Big Chris!!
Butcher was just too smart!! Fought a real tactical fight and Kept Tavita out side. You could see Tai lining up for the big over hand and Butcher would just chop his leg or push kick him back. Awsome display of ring smarts from a guy who likes to get in and get the job done.. he even said after the fight that it was hard standing off but he stuck to his plan and it paid off!!!
Big Chris what can I say.. He just took it to Suttie and came up trumps. He was putting together crisp hand combinations and finishing them with leg chops... Jason just kept backing up and didnt seem to have an answer, Finally Out him away in the 2nd extension round with a big leg chop!! Unbelievable fight!!
Pixie vs Jordan.. well what can I say... Pixie may as well have been running a seminar for the first 2 rounds.. "now watch this is how you grapple" Controlled Jordan from outside kicked well chopped at his legs then when Jordan let fly with his legendary hands Pixie just covered up moved through wrapped him up and kneed! Third round..well you will all make up your own mind when you see it but Pixie wore a shot got rocked, bounced of the ropes covered up and got counted.. In my opinion it was a weak count and premature... Unanimous decision to Jordan... Honestly its a tough call...We thought Draw with an extension...
With K1's .5 scoring it makes for a lot of close rounds.. This was evident later in the number of drawn fights.. Chris v Jason went to 5 Iggy Vs Peter extension as well... You can lose 2 rounds 10 9.5 then make up for it and force a draw with a 10 9... Not sure I agree with it but hey they are the rules and the boys knew them so... I guess its not enough to win a round You have to really dominate!..
Anyway guys this was a great show and a great night.. Definatley one to catch when its on Foxtel.
Later
J.A.

[SPADA]

thanx for the report JA..........


Nice to hear that the "butcher" had a good fight.
Will he retire or push on???????????

Suprised the Chief won....but excellent effort in beating one of the big guns of the K1 in Ignashov.Iggy seems to have lost his 2003 form at this stage.

Bad luck Sniper..... bet you will come back harder when given the chance of a rematch.

sounded like a full on show....can't wait to catch a glympse.
hope the refs did a better job thius time around.

cheers Spada



Edited by - spada on 03 May 2005 13:15:38

[Voice]

what can you expect when you give the scoring duties to a bunch of kickboxing guys, and kiwi ones at that...Aaron Boyes etc. Of course they will score punches the same as kicks and knees.

Few understand the Muay Thai scoring system...basically
4 - knees
3 - elbows
2 - kicks
1 - punches

Now K1 is a hybrid of kickboxing and modified MT, but clearly the limited grapple, well executed, outscores punching, even though the audience always thinks the guy doing the mike tyson style hook has gotta be the winner.

I for one would welcome the promoter getting up on the night and explaining to the audience how the scoring works. In my mind, Pixie locking in the grapple and hammering away with knees (as we know he is very proficient at) should outscore the odd bomb with the gloves. It seems even the ref was confused given the level of grappling allowed...K1 being one strike only.

What can you say? I see plenty of decent referees, but unfortunately few consistently accurate judges on any given night.

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[harls]

I thought elbows were the highest scoring technique in MT.. Also isn't everything scored equally in K-1 rules?

Best of luck next time round Pixie.

"One world, one Muay Thai"

[Matt J]

spada writes: Suprised the Chief won....but excellent effort in beating one of the big guns of the K1 in Ignashov.Iggy seems to have lost his 2003 form at this stage.


doest suprise me at all, iggy is one lost guy let me tell you. his little streak is well and truly in the past.

[J A]

From the K1 rules page...

Article 4
Awarding of points shall be based on the following elements:

1. Whether an effective and accurate attack is recognized, and damage is inflicted on the opponent by authorized fighting techniques. Each match consists of three (3) minutes X five (5) rounds or three (3) minutes X three (3) rounds.

2. Points will be awarded in this priority:
(1) Number of downs
(2) Extent of damage inflicted on the opponent
(3) Number of clean hits
(4) Degree of aggressiveness (points in the offensive)

The dominant fighter shall be awarded a score of ten (10), and points shall be deducted from his opponent.

K1 show no preference for particular techniques.

[Voice]

nah Harls, knees according to Stephan when I had a moan about how that African guy lost at Chaweng.

JA, thanks for digging that out, it might have solved global confusion, including mine...though it begs how much damage does one hard knee or leg strike do vs a punch.

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[harls]

Voice, I guess it must depend on who you talk to, as I've heard different from other notable sources. Best person to ask would probably be an actual MT judge???

"One world, one Muay Thai"

[Voice]

interesting Harls, tho i guess by definition an elbow strike usually misses or it knocks out/cuts, hence it is not a hi-rep technique. Knees get thrown in the dozens due to their high scoring, elbows often never thrown if the fighters have a bit of mutual respect for their ability to fight the next week.

I agree, a solid elbow should rate highest but they are so rare in good connection, makes it difficult to judge.

My point was perhaps best shown in the JWP/Sakmongkol K1 fight where SMK matched (or won in my opinion) the first 3 rounds due to repetitive kicks into JWP's guard (a very common MT technique), while JWP countered with more punches. The scoring on this occasion would indicate kicks &gt; punches in the judges eyes.

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[J A]

Ah see voice your own reasoning is your own undoing (man I should be superhero with lines like that wheres my villain)
quote:Knees get thrown in the dozens due to their high scoring
quote:a solid elbow should rate highest but they are so rare in good connection
Yes knees score highly and you can throw a lot of them with little effect. Elbows score higher (and I will find a reference to quote shortly) for the exact reason they are more difficult and inflict more damage which is the main scoring criteria for all forms of fighting true?
quote:Although the rules suggest that all techniques have an equal chance to score, certain techniques are favoured by judges as being more effective than others. Judges generally consider:
strong body kicks and well timed teeps (pushing kicks) that cause a loss of balance to be more effective than leg kicks (unless the low kick knocks an opponent off their feet or causes them visible injury)
Strong knees as more effective than punches (unless the punch staggers or drops an opponent)
Straight knees to be more effective than circle knees
Elbow strikes as not being particularly effective, unless they cut, stagger or drop an opponent.
Thats from the article in IK and I copied off muay thai online.

As for the JWP vs SMK while JWP may have thrown more punches the damage inflcited by SMK kicks may have received more weight... bearing in mind that this was K1 rules NOT muay thai and whilst the weapons are weighted evenly the damage inflicted is scored..
So I guess the bottom line is the main factor in scoring is the damage inflicted.

[Voice]

JA, you've lost me in all your logic, but I'm sure you are right <img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>

btw, Queensland, NZ?? You guys trying to claim our sunshine state bro, or are you also wanting to be an Aussie??<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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[J A]

Man I am as Queensland as they come... Born and bred on the Gold Coast.
But I have been living in Wanaka for a bout a year. They have more Snow here!
But my time here is coming to an end and I will be back on the Goldy soon enough.
As for my logic... to keep it simple generally elbows score more cos they do more damage..
Laters

[toss_it_up]

Michael Schiavello

Don't forget to email me those pictures taken after the fights at the venue and at Atrium Bar.

Thanks
****_it_up:)

[matman]

quote:
what can you expect when you give the scoring duties to a bunch of kickboxing guys, and kiwi ones at that...Aaron Boyes etc.

Gee I don't know Voice, I would have thought that Dave Gahan might know something about Muay Thai judging having fought more Thai opponents (in New Zealand and Thailand) than probably any other kiwi, with maybe the exception of Choppa. We're not talking bar fights either, Dave has fought the likes of Anuwat. He fought Thais at Welterweight (full thai rules just in case you're wondering) and beat more than he lost to.

Aaron Boyes - hmmm. Yes, Muay Thai is not his 1st discipline but he has had about 10 elbow fights including a televised 5 rounder against a Thai opponent. Oh yes, and he went the distance with this other Thai chappie, what was his name? Oh that right, Kaokalai.

Scotty Thompson has been training fighters and judging full thai rules for years.

You see Voice, if you knew anything at all about kickboxing in New Zealand you would know that we don't actually have 'kickboxing' (as in no knees or elbows) in New Zealand - that stuff doesn't exist over here. The only time you'll see limits on kneeing and grappling is on Dixon's K-1 shows - 3 times a year. What we call kickboxing, you guys would probably called 'modified thai' - i.e knees but no elbows. Pros fight full thai so we still see a lot of elbow fights.

You're showing your ignorance Voice if you think the judges at the battle of the Anzac don't know anything about Muay Thai judging - but here's a news flash: they weren't judging Muay Thai fights. JA has already schooled you on the difference between K-1 and Muay Thai rules so I'll leave that alone but I just thought I'd educate you on the kiwi judges' credentials.

[Voice]

ah, i can't believe how long it has taken to get a response from one of our distant cousins, eh bro?
You have restored my faith Matman that it is possible to get a Kiwi to bite under any circumstance if you pull the right parochial strings.

I couldn't help myself having a dig, no offence mate, things were a little boring here and Shaan's constant urging to 'do something' brought out the devil.<img src=icon_smile_evil.gif border=0 align=middle>

btw, I didn't know you could deduce so much from a single line of quote??

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Edited by - Voice on 09 May 2005 21:00:51