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KIRI K
20-08-2002, 04:43 PM
AND DON'T SAY THIS ISN'T POSSIBLE BECAUSE IT IS!!
WHAT U GUYS THINK OUT THERE?????????????????????

allanf
20-08-2002, 08:38 PM
It wont happen.

ThaiBoxer
20-08-2002, 10:01 PM
It is possible for this to happen. Gurkan has to lose a couple of kilos and Zambam has to gain some and i dont see it an impossible match up! Gurkan is at 78 and Mike is at 70. My opinion is that if they met at 74 or 75 it would be awesome! But i still think that Mike would beat Gurkan. Ozkan is a great fighter but i dont think he has the necessary fitness and mental strength to resist the explosions of Iron Mike.

JANER
20-08-2002, 10:39 PM
Gurkan is too big and too strong.

remy
21-08-2002, 12:25 AM
Yeah it's possible if Zambidis decides to go up two weight divisions! I don't think he is that stupid to go from 70 to 78 when the division he is in is perfect for his frame and it is highly competitive. No reason to move up. So it will never happen. And if it did Ozkan would win.

rebel
21-08-2002, 12:43 AM
Not only will it never happen, it's downright silly! Mike floats between 68-70kgs. To fight a guy who fights at the 78kg limit?? No chance. Would Gurkan come all the way down to something like 72kg and still be comfortable? Hard to see.

Koshy
21-08-2002, 01:09 PM
Sorry Kirk but unless Zam has grown a foot since he fought last time I cant see hime fighting guys like Gurkan and McKinnon who are over ten kilo's heavier than each other. This is why we have weight divisions. Zam would never be able to carry an extra five kilo's on his already short and compact frame.

sooty
21-08-2002, 01:59 PM
I gotta agree with the Rebel on this one.
Soots

allanf
21-08-2002, 10:15 PM
i gotta agree aswell, even though Zam can take alot of hard punches, i dont think he can take Gurkans hard hits. Gurkan would win in my opinion.

rebel
22-08-2002, 12:20 AM
Thats another good point, can you imagine Zambides adding 8-10kg to his short frame?? NO WAY he can comfortably carry that weight as a fighter. Silly to even consider Ozkan vs Zambides.

paul c
22-08-2002, 05:43 AM
I agree also.

Damn, imagine Mike 10kg heavier. Hehe, if he tripped in the ring he might just roll out.

Hehe, it certainly would be a fun one to watch though.
Mike throwing those combo's and Gurkan shaking them off, then giving the same in return.

Nah, it will never happen.

ThaiBoxer
22-08-2002, 06:25 PM
what if they met at 74? mike can put on 4 and gurkan can lose 4, that would a great fight. And i still think that Zambidis would win because Gurkan does not have the fitness and wastes too many punches. Mike would find the right chance and demolish ozkan.

No Fear
22-08-2002, 10:02 PM
Mate! after seeing iron mike against behic, and gurkan and authur, iron mike will tear gurkan to a million pieces, the speed the power, Zambidis is the type of fighter who makes his fan's jaw drop. aurthur didn't do much attacking against gurkan and i reckon he wasn't far from winning.

deanspartan
26-08-2002, 10:29 AM
I recall a decade ago Loui Isofides who used to fight at 71-72 kg would not fight Gurkan at 76 kg because of the fact that Gurkan would have too much of an advantage.An offer was finally made if Gurkan could weigh in at 74 but Tarik refused as Gurkan could not get that far down without ill effects.There were rumours from Louis camp that Gurkan was really fighting at 78kg for most of his fights and the scales for nearly all Gukans fights had been rigged-BUT as most acusations just a rumour. The two finally entered a KO four way tournament with Mark May and Sam Soliman. I think from memory Gurkan beat Sam in the final as Sam outpointed Loui in the first bout.Personally i think Loui would have been overwhelmed by Gurkan and Kod brutally but it never happened.
Now 10 years later Gurkan would literally have to starve himself to come in at 74 kg. Mike on the other hand would be to bulky and we saw with Gurkans foray into the Heavyweights that heart can only take you so far.
They should both stick to their own weights and fight the worlds best. Gurkan should fight Hoillands brutal Ex chakuriki trained fighter and infamous KO specialist Perry Ubeda. Styles make fights and as such this is a fight that has the potential to be an All Time Great!!

JANER
26-08-2002, 05:32 PM
NoFear, how long have you been watching kickboxing for? It seems you arent aware on and who is Gurkan Ozkan.

ThaiBoxer, Gurkan had the exact fight plan to beat Arthur. He didnt throw too many punches and didnt hope for a knockout. He paced himself for the whole 5 rounds. I have never seen Ozkan so fit in the later rounds. Gurkans fitness and fightplan had changed dramatically! Come on mate, you see it for yourself!

Gurkan had never been knocked out. He has never been given a standing 8 count for a head shot. So how is a smaller guy even going to hurt Gurkan, apart from his legs?

John K
26-08-2002, 06:07 PM
Trevor Ambrose decked him twice with head shots before stopping him, Janer. Tibor Vermes also dropped him with a head shot.

JANER
26-08-2002, 09:08 PM
I think your right John, but they were from leg kicks to Ozkans head. I didnt see any super heavy weight drop Ozkan apart from being attacked by legs!

SO my conclusion is, Zambidis is far too small for Ozkan and his legs wont be enough to get ozkan down.

allanf
26-08-2002, 09:37 PM
ahhh wher have you been mate, that is so not true. Gurkan at this stage of his life will demolish any fighter in his division right now.

John K
26-08-2002, 11:07 PM
Watch the fight again Janer. First knockdown was a right hand to the head, second was a high kick. I'm not denying Zam is too small however of course he is! Gurkan is closer to 80 than 75!

Glenn
27-08-2002, 12:08 AM
Gurkan didn't demolish Tsakanos and he certainly won't demolish a classy fighter like John Halford imo.

memek
27-08-2002, 12:38 PM
Gurkan ate Tsokonas alive. Beat him every round. Arthur had no chance.

allanf
27-08-2002, 07:03 PM
ahhh where have you been mate?? that so did not happen.

krama
28-08-2002, 09:50 AM
Gents - the guys are in different weight divisions so there is no point in trying to get them to meet half way.
However if they were to meet - do not think for a second that Ozkan would be too powerful for Zambidis! What a load of ****! Ozkan has never fought an opponent of Zambidis calibre - and if you have ever spoken to Stan Longinidis he will tell you that Zambidis hits like a heavyweight. Stan can not believe the power the little bloke has. This guy does not hit like a fighter in his weight division. Proof of this is in the fight results. The guy simply destroys opponents with his punches! And even his kicks ARE devastating! as can be seen with the fight against Behic.
The size difference is simply not a factor. Look at the size diff between Zam and Nezif. If you get the opportunity to see the size of the Euro fighters Zam recently KO'd within 2 rounds you will see some were 6ft plus!!!
Gurkan is a great fighter but Zam is a more powerful and more importantly a SMARTER fighter. He will pick Ozkan appart and will stretch it to 12 rounds just to make him feel the most intense pain he has ever felt. Great fight NO contest. Zam will win!

remy
28-08-2002, 02:18 PM
Don't compare Zambidis to a heavyweight. He has enormous strength for his weight division. He is a great fighter but do you seriously think for a minute that he can trade with a heavyweight, or seriously hurt the big heavyweights of the world. Probably not. It's not fair to say that size does not matter. Of course it does and most people are refering to size as weight. Height advantage can be overcome, but weight advantage is a different story.

Andrew P
28-08-2002, 02:41 PM
Krama, It's a figure of speech to say "he hits like a heavyweight". I doubt its meant to be taken literally! It's an expression. It means he hits damn hard, which he does. But not LITERALLY like a trained guy who weight 95 plus kilos. It's like someone saying so and so "hits like a mule". :)

Koshy
28-08-2002, 07:16 PM
First off im pretty sure in the Gurkan v Tibor fight he was dropped by a knee to the head not a punch to the head.
Secondly this is the most inane thread that I have read yet, as if Zam hits as hard as a heavyweight! Name one heavyweight that he can hit as hard as. I really like Zam but their is no question that this fight would never happen. It is the same as Gurkan fighting Wayne Parr. They are different weight divisions and there is no way that Stan would put Mike in against someone who fights around 10 kilo's heaveir than his own fighter. People who think this would happen are kidding themselves. Krama you need to stop and take a look at the fighters that Gurkan has fought before you say that he hasn't fought someone of Zam's ability. That is an unfounded statement.