To all fighters and trainers: Hydroxycut

[JANER]

Hey all,

Can you give me some information on what is hydroxycut and does it really burn fat? Hoping for some personal experiences.




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[Glenn]

Australian version doesn't have Epherdrine in it unlike the one made in America. Epherdrine is the "magic" ingredient.



Edited by - Glenn on 04 Aug 2004 20:45:44

[Richie Fogs]

Hi Janer mate going back two years ago for my last fight i started at 92kg in December and got to 76kg by March, i think if you are training hard in the morning and night i found they worked for me. i swear by them.

Richie Fogs

[ric]

just wondering where can u get your hands on this hydrocut thanks

[ric]

quote:
just wondering where can u get your hands on this hydroxycut thanks

[Glenn]

Go to a bodybuilding forum or maybe Madjack on here could give you tips re.loosing weight. IMO there's no substitute for training hard and eating right.

[TAO @ JTS]

hey guys

i have used hydroxycut before and it is one of the best fat metabolisers on the market. hydroycut contains hydroxy-citric acid which is basically a thermogenic formula that increases the metabolism resulting in fat burning. this particular product also contains 3 important things for fat buring. it has L-carnitine which is an amino acid that is directly associated with mobilizing fat cells into the blood stream to be burned as energy. it also contains phasolamin (forgive my spelling here i'm not sure how it's spelled) anyway this stuff inhibits the body absorbing carbohydrates. reducing carbs is a big factor in reducing weight... carbs are important for us but we (in modern western society) tend to eat far too many carbs. lastly hydroxycut contains cromium pilocinate (again forgive spelling) which regulates the blood insulin levels so that your blood suger doesnt spike high, which causes you to burn sugars when exercising rather than stored fat. obviously hydroxycut contains heaps more things that basically help to bring these basic fat burners to life. hydroycut is probably the best on the market because it has potency. many others have the same fat burning components but not in the same quantities. so it's a good choice for fat burning. but if you want to see results fairly quickly. you need to take the amount on the side of the container. which when you do the maths, adds up to a small fortune. so yeah this stuffs not cheap. it does work though.

take it about 30 mins before training to get it absorbed by the time you're kicking pads or whatever it is your doing. but in short it works alot better if your training hard.

regards
TAO (JOOK)

jesus... i should be getting some sort of commission for that rant.

[JANER]

Tao and all, thanks for the info thus far.

I went to the local health shop and got me the smallest amount just to trial it. I popped 3 pills (lol) 30 min before i done my workout last night. Im tellin you, i was a different person! I just felt alot stronger and lifted far more heavier than i would (bench usually 80kg and managed to bench 100kg in 4 reps).

Regarding the dosage, on the back it says for beginners:

1st Week : 2 tablets twice a day 30 min before meals

2nd week : 3 tablets twice a day " " " "

3rd Week and onwards : 4 tablets twice a day " " "

What does this regime do?

Im confused cause some people say take a few before a workout?? And what do you take on the days you dont workout?

Regarding the price, well I paid $45 for 70 capsules. Which will only last me (70 capsules per tub divide 8 capsules per day recommended once not a beginner) approx 9 days!!!!

****tttttttttt! $45 for every 9 days... Thats $155 per month... Only just realised! I might buy in bulk.

Oh, the label does say it cannot be used for periods longer than 12 weeks..

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[cyb5]

what brand did you get dude ?

[Kostet]

Hydroxycut is manufactured by only one company, MsucleTech, as far as I'm aware anyway.

Good supplement but one has to be careful when withdrawing from use as your metabolism is given quite a jolt.

Also, if constantly taken, the ephedra has similar effects to speed, and that includes side-effects.

"It's a lifestyle..."

[JANER]

Brand is Muscletech... Just bought the one the lady handed me! lol

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[harls]

Try bodybuilding.com if you want cheaper supplements. Even when converted to AUS it works out heaps cheaper. I don't know a whole lot about hydroxycut, but if it is a stimulant and it sounds like it is, that is why you would have to keep increasing the dose to get the same effect. The body becomes tolerant to stimulants after a short time. I suppose you would probably have to cycle it too.

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[JANER]

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[derrick]

ECA stack is banned, was good.

[omar]

Hey i have had this, and it does state taking how many but when it came to take 12 a day it got a bit to much. I had tones of energy without dropping off power. But soon as i missed 2 days. I couldn't even hit the bag for 2 rounds. It drained all my fluids completely and i was drinking heaps of fluids 2. But it did work. And no **** i had terrible headaches.

[JANER]

Omar,

My mouth is dry and I have to spit every 2 min... Why is thiS?

And yes, I got a wierd headache as im typing this.




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[TAO @ JTS]

hey guys,

i'm not sure why the recommendation would suggest that you need to increase the dosage each week other than the fact that they may just be trying to sell more. L-carnitine, phasolamin, cromium, and hydroxy citric acid (HCA) are not stimulants and shouldn't need increasing for reasons of tolerance, however the product may contain some other stimulants to increase performance, hence the increased dosage to overcome the tolerance factor. but yeah like i said it's fukin expensive hey. my suggestion is that it great for a while to get the intial results you want, perhaps a month or so. in this time if you're training hard and eating right (i.e no carbs after 3pm), you should be able to see about 6-9kg drop in fat in that month - 6 weeks. from there take the phasolamin out of the picture. it is not designed to be taken for extended periods, and can negatively effect the metabolism in the long run. after 6 weeks go onto a carnitine/ cromium suppliment. i'm pretty sure you can buy the two in one product. make sure the carnitine content is atleast 500mg per tablet. there is alot of products on the market claiming fat burning potential and yet contain very little of the essentials that burn it.

E.C.A STACK, was basically E= ephedra (pseudoephadrine) C= caffine A= asprin. this product worked on the basis that if the heart flies along at around 100 - 120 beat per minute you will be burning more energy and therefore more fat. true enough. but the headaches the caffine and asprin dependancy, the scattered brain from ephadrine, and the shakes, and perhaps the disassociative personality disorder that develops from taking this should steer one away from it. the asprin is there by the way to thin the blood down so that it moves even faster, this will in the long run - SHORTEN YOUR LIFE. therefore i wouldnt suggest using this one. you can still buy an ECA stack in australia but it doesn't contain true ephadrine, it has a pseudo ephadrine which has the same effect. this product is almost chemically the same as "No Dose" tablets with some asprin attached to it & in short - it's no good for you...

whenever taking these kinds of approaches to fat loss remember to do it carefully. research each product you're taking. call me cinical but i'm not completely convinced that the suppliment industry necessarily has your health in mind when they produce many of these products.

take care
TAO (JOOK)

[omar]

Hey Janer, it basically drains your water retention u put in completely. Thats why when u train u have heasp of water etc u keep draining yourself more but for that moment when u hitting the pads u feel like a million bucks. Headaches are caused when ur really dehydrated !?! get the picture . U should be drinking ****loads of water mate. Cheers

[harls]

Hydroxycut does have caffeine added and it also has willow bark extract(aspirin is derived from the willow tree). It appears very similar to the ECA stack..

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[JANER]

thanks guys,

Im not kidding you, I drank 4 litres of water so far today... Is this a good thing!? And my dose is just 1 capsule before breaky and 1 capsule before lunch... gonna work out in an hour and take 2 before that...

My appetite is small...





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[cyb5]

yeha jaber.. drinking wtaer is a godo thing.

Doctors reccomend that even nonactive people drink 2 litres a day.

so if you are working out hard Water is very good for you, obviosuly it keeps you hydrated and clears all those "nasties" out of your system.
I owuldnt exceed more than 8 litrs ina 24hr period though

[JANER]

Can too much water be hazardous? And why?

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[cyb5]

yes too much can be bad.

becuase in extrem cases it can cause the brain to sweel etc.

too much anything is bad.. but yeah there is some bad side afects of too much water.

[rocket]

Hi guys taking a similar one called THERMALENE has the same sort of gear as hydroxycut but also contains caffeine and guarana ,because it contains the stimulants it gives a pretty good pick me up ,cost around $100 for 210 capsules which is the recommended dosage for 7 weeks though the dude i bought it from up here in Brissy said to pump up the dosage for better results, the guys store is m and m fitness i think he has a website so do a search ,the manufacturer's website is www.syntecnutrition.com ,would highly recommend this product.

[rocket]

Hi guys taking a similar one called THERMALENE has the same sort of gear as hydroxycut but also contains caffeine and guarana ,because it contains the stimulants it gives a pretty good pick me up ,cost around $100 for 210 capsules which is the recommended dosage for 7 weeks though the dude i bought it from up here in Brissy said to pump up the dosage for better results, the guys store is m and m fitness i think he has a website so do a search ,the manufacturer's website is www.syntecnutrition.com ,would highly recommend this product.

[rocket]

Hi guys taking a similar one called THERMALENE has the same sort of gear as hydroxycut but also contains caffeine and guarana ,because it contains the stimulants it gives a pretty good pick me up ,cost around $100 for 210 capsules which is the recommended dosage for 7 weeks though the dude i bought it from up here in Brissy said to pump up the dosage for better results, the guys store is m and m fitness i think he has a website so do a search ,the manufacturer's website is www.syntecnutrition.com ,would highly recommend this product.

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[Bushi]

cyb5..

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[JANER]

ZDKBUSHIDO,

I kinda agree, but I cant eat chicken every single day! lol

Also, regarding the hydroxy, looks like im getting more tolerant to it. Im getting less headaches from it.




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[RicHardo]

Those headaches are caffeine (stimulant) withdrawals. Exceeding 320mg caffeine/day will eventually cause caffeine dependence, and because of the short halflife of caffeine, withdrawal symptoms may appear only hours after each dose.
Pharmaceutical companies had millions hooked on "Becs" powder years ago (caffeine & aspirin), and this product was eventually reformulated in Aus due to its addictive and hepatotoxic effects. The companies that produce these products want their consumers to develop dependance to them, and as drug authorities schedule addictive substances, both pharmaceutical and supplement manufactures are just as quick to find another "legal" alternative;

ephedrine to pseudoephedrine

pseudoephedrine to synephrine

synephrine to caffeine

and here is where they have found a winner, who the hell is going to ban caffeine????

How many performance supplements are caffein free???

[lil bull]

i use hydroxicut and it has worked for me i use to be 90 kilos and now ive dropped to 68 kilos but you must train and eat the right food as well

[Hironaka]

Get a product called Horley's Xtreme Ripped:
http://www.vitaminking.com.au/page/shop/flypage/product_id/9069

Three times more powerful, half the price, works much better.

[James Turner]

Use Body Science Thermon X Forte - Australian made and more potent than Hydroxycut.

[east]

Guys try T2 made by fusion nutrition. They will blow your head off but wont give you a headache. I've tried both but i rate the T2 better

They are pretty much only available in America but you can get them from Australian Sports Nutrition they have shops on gold coast and in sydney www.asn.com.au

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