JWP vs Ozkan K-1 rules who would win??

[nagas]

As above what's your thoughts on this match up guys????
No doubt it would be an awesome fight.

[jackafrica]

Never happen

[froot]

JWP KO early rounds. To fit for Ozkan

[allanf]

Hahahah you have got to be kidding, no way in hell JWP will beat OZKAN, OZKAN easily by a knockout, way to strong, lets be serious.

[Dean]

Just like he was way too strong for Zambides huh?Solid matchup,both guys have a shot.If there are knees then I may,just may,lean towards JWP.Without knees Ozkan has a better chance but JWP has a good chance down the stretch if it gets to rounds 9,10 etc.

[shenfwu]

What about full thai rules? Does ozkan fight Thai Boxing? or has ever fought thai boxing?

[ozkan_the_second]

If i can remember clearly, his last full thai rules fight was against Dendenai, but lost by TKO after suffering a neck spasm.

[CharlieA]

Actually I seem to recall that the "neck spasm" had something more to do with copping a knee or kick to the head? Will have to review the tape. He does seem to come up with injuries at the most critical moments doesn't he?

Back on the topic though, Bannan was all over Ozkan until the ko punch (yes I realise this was only first round) and I think that JWP will be all over Ozkan from beginning to end (simply because he is more focussed at this point in his career than Bannan). It will take more than Ozkan's left, right, left, right, left, right hand combos to bring JWP undone.

My predictions:

KB rules: - JWP by points over 5 (Ozkan to take no more than first round)
MT or modified or K1 - JWP, JWP, JWP - Ozkan to lose by leg injury or ko (or maybe even neck spasm)

Cheers

CharlieA

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[robdiep]

JWP to win via KO in rd 3 or 4 with knees.. JWP is one mean sucka and he can take a punch.. for ozkan to win he needs to unleash the big bok choi in the first rd.. i reckon JWP too strong in this match up..

[harls]

Lets look at how they both went against Zambidis. Gurkan never really bothered Zam and ended up Ko'd. JWP had a war with Zam, finished the stronger of the two and had Zam more gassed than I've ever seen him. Many believe(myself included)Wayne should have got the decision, but lets not get into all that again!

I can't really see any advantages Gurkan has over Wayne, except a little more power in his hands. Wayne still has good power, better hand skills, knee and kicking skills and is better conditioned. I think wayne would stop Gurkan after a few rounds.

[krama]

Harls, generally agree - lets not forget JWP has awsome hands as well, he had fought and beaten Aussie boxing champs -

He would be too fit and strong for Ozkan, too many combinations, would bamboozle Ozkan,

As stated Ozkan didnt even make Zam break a sweat, I have read all the crap about him not being in the zone etc, but realistically, I elieve when he felt the immense power Zam could unleash, he simply shut down knowing the damage Zam could cause, and he did in the 12th

JWP gave Zam a war, with a mixed decision, goes to prove just what a great fight it was

[Dannyboy]

Wayne has one of the tightest guards i've seen, he's also one of the smartest and best offensive fighters i've seen.
I believe Gurkan is getting better with age, he's trying new combinations, and not just solely relying on his hands anymore, he's a fighter & a good entertainer.
I believe under K-1 rules JWP would eventually be the victor, by way of what i'm not sure.
It's hard to predict a fight when both the boxers in question are very experienced, I will say though if the match was with elbows it would be a stoppage with Wayne winning.
Then again any fighter can have an 'off day' where their body just dosent want to get out of 1st. gear, look at Shane Mosely last weekend.

[omar]

My thoughts exactly.

[allanf]

Even though i rate Jwp very highly and i reckon his one of the best fighters in his weight divison going around, i just dont see him standing a chance over Ozkan, i just dont see it happening, what i belive will happen is that Ozkan will finish the game very early a lucky punch will connect to Jwp's chin that will catch him out cold.The build up to this fight will be very exciting though, but should finish very early, if lets just say it reaches the later rounds, i belive Gurkan could be in a little trouble, but i also belive Gurkan will be prepared for that aswell, and he will be smart enough to hang in their and win by points division. ps THIS YEAR TO BE OZKANZ YEAR =) already Boyes,Bannan, next Tskanos,Corbett,Jwp,Zambidis. If he succeeds in beating this four in the future, then i belive he has earned the right to be one of the all time greats and the best fighter in the world. But still work need to be done, GOOD LUCK OZKAN.

[omar]

Yeh if hes lucky, but parr does have a strong chin look at his resume for the fighters he has thought against i wouldn't be surprised if parr ko'd him to in the earlier rounds. I'll stick wif my gudgements its only my opinion.

[CharlieA]

It puzzles me that Ozkan gets so much support on this one. It is one thing to want him to win, but does anyone really think that he is up to the standard of JWP?

I am not a massive JWP-freak but I do have to say that I have watched many of his fights in Australia and Ozkans too and I don't even think that they belong in the same ring. I suppose the weight difference has made it difficult to judge in the past and it depends where they meet on this one, but I can't see Ozkan even coming close.

There are some things I like about Ozkan (fight style not one of them) but I truly think that this will be a one-way flogging that shouldn't even happen (unless under KB rules, which isn't a fair test of JWP anyway).

Cheers
CharlieA

[paul c]

Of the JWP fights that I've seen, I've only seen Parr dropped before, but never out cold. He just manages to recompose himself and get back up. I reckon Wayne's got a great chin, that's why I think this is probably the most dangerous fight for Ozkan. I've only seen Ozkan KO'd the once, but that was from one of the hardest hitters I've ever seen period. Parr is as fit as they come, so I really hope Gurkan goes into this fight more prepared then he's ever been in his life.

Wayne can knee and kick all night long so I reckon Gurkan's best chance is to try and knock Wayne out if possible very early when he's at his most powerful. Otherwise, I honestly don't know if anyone out there can outwork and outscore Parr. That's why I believe he's got more chance if he just goes sick, than he has if he tries to outbox and outscore Wayne.

I know most of you guys appreciate a more technical fight from Ozkan, but this fight isn't the time IMO.

[Bender]

As I said in another thread, I just can't see Gurkan winning this one - he's just not in JWP's class. Let's look at the weapons:

Kicks: JWP.
Knees: JWP.
Grapple: JWP.
Punches: JWP has better combos and more efficient shots; Gurkan has heavy hands and can land bombs. Different styles but I guess they're equal.
Defense: JWP by a country mile.
Ring smarts: Equal.
Heart: Two guys with hearts like Phar Lap. Equal.

There's nothing I can difinitively give to Gurkan in this. I agree with Paul C - the only way Gurkan can win this is to fight ugly and try to land the big one in the first; give himself a puncher's chance and go in for the kill. But Wayne's too smart for that and will come out in the second round to jab, teep and smile his way through to a comfy victory.

Bender.

[krama]

I agree with the point that JWP has a great defence - he succesfully covered up against Zams punches when they fought, and openly admitted Zam would have ko'd him if he was given the opportunity - there is no way you can compare Ozkans punches with Zams, I dont think they will be a concern for JWP - he has taken Zams best and in most peoples eyes came out on top.

[richard]

no disrespect to ozkan but i think jwp is to well rounded , at distance he will out kick him and in close he has good hands , good defence and superior knees , decision win for jwp.

[Dean]

Sorry Janer but Arthur Tsakonas isnt in the same league an bringing up the Stan fight is pointless.I wonder if you guys have any idea of the state Stan was in coming into that fight?Fighting an out of shape,39 year old,retired,WELL past his best (gee he only peaked 10 years ago)heavyweight great of the late 80s and early 90s does not even come close to fighting a fit,hungry,young and PRIME fighter,the likes of JWP and Zambo (yes I realise a lot of people picked Stan bu bigdeal,the general public have no idea what kind of state Stan was in or that his team wanted to pull him out weeks before the fight e looked so lethargic in trying to train!),and if you dont believe me look at what happens when Gurkan steps up to that plate.He gets wrecked.Its a common thread...Jacobs,Vermes,Zam,Ambrose,Elson,Dendenai etc.JWP to win by comfortabl decision,theres my official prediction and I will stick with it as Gurkan has not done a thing in his career to make me believe he can win a drawn out fight with a guy who will take it to him from start to finish.And if you want to know,I also believe Gurkan is past it and another accident waiting to happen.

[Dean]

But the guy has got a ton of heart:)He will make it fun!

[CharlieA]

Go Dean

Tell it like it is my man.

I couldn't agree with you more about the whole Ozkan vs Stan thing and that he is hanging on too long. I think that if he wants to keep fighting and he enjoys it then great, good on him, all the best. But let's not ever confuse his level of ability with that of JWP at this moment in time.

Ozkan has shown a lot of heart and many newcomers can learn from his example but really... JWP...in his current form??

Let's be serious.

Cheers CharlieA