what did tarik solak announce??

[JANER]

hey guys, I just finished wactching the Mundine V Ellis on foxtel and was just wondering... What did Tarik SOlak say in the centre of the ring?? Something about his fighter fighting a boxer for $100,000?? All I heard was the crowd booing.

what did tarik announce? he is a classic, seriously. Sitting nice and smart next to Holly Valance!! mmmmmm luck man!

[remy]

I would have paid good money for that seat. And Mundine thanked Tarik Solak in his post fight speech.

[da GhOsT]

I think he said Ozkan Vs Mundine ???? Now what a fight that would heyyyy !!!!!

[Lucy Tui]

I spoke to him today he said he challenged the Boxers to fight the Kickboxers in Boxing winner takes $100,000...
Regards
lucy Tui

[Glenn]

I saw Sam Soliman jump in the ring, what was going on there? I gather he was trying to get at Mundine.

[delusion]

Imagine Ozkan Vs Mundine what a fight that would be !!!!

ozkan will give him a gooo and probably have a chance to ko him COLD i would love to see that

[John K]

Your a little to biased towards Turk fighters aren't you? Turk fighters can do no wrong! LOL!
Mundine would slaughter Ozkan, its a silly fight that wouldnt happen anyway.

[John K]

actually I take that back, its such a dumb mismatch it probably will happen.

[JANER]

John K, your a bunny (to put it lightly).

Turkish fighters have dominated the kickboxing world in Australia. They are fighters who fight with their hearts on their hands and who put buts on seats.

Many people aknowledge that the turks have made kickboxing very exciting. The style is far from boring and YES, they are very contreversial, but you take the good with the bad.

Bariz Nezif, Jenk Behic and Gurkan Ozkan are example of fighters who are kicking butt. Fatih Hasan, is the next best prospect.

So no, UMZ isnt biased, he is giving respect where respect is due. The Turkish fihghters are a group of one of the best fighters going around.

[deanspartan]

I think that may be going a bit far Janer. Yes Australian fighters of Turkish heritage have definitly contributed a lot to kickboxing but to say that they or any other nationality dominated is not acurate as i think we have all contributed- fighters, fans and promoters.Janer you forgot the two best Turkish fighters-the late Gerald Ilhan and ofcourse my favourate Tibet Hamza.Gerald probably had the most natural talent of the lot but sadly was at many times distracted.Tibet in most peoples opinion was everything a fighter should aim to be inside and outside the ring regarding- respect to himself, respect to his trainer and all his opponents.Never once did Tibet say a bad word about another person in the industry. Regardless of ethnic backround or gym allegiances he was truly a GENTLEMAN.

[John K]

Janer your obviously turkish, hence your intelligent opinion is a little skewered. Turkish fighters have dominated australia...that does not even deserve a response!
I like Jenk and Gurkan as much as the next guy, but to say those guys have dominated the kickboxing world??? Please.

[krama]

To UMZ and Janer
You both seem like very narrow minded individuals - maybe a few too many kicks to the head while sparring some non Turkish fighters - that is if you sapr at all - it sounds like your both belong to the "Try hard" kickboxing club. Just because you know how to skip and lift your foot off the ground, it doesnt make you a fighter.
Anyway - Ian Jacobs - demolished Ozkan, not a turk, what did Vermes do to Ozkan before his mummy(Tarik) stepped in to save him? destroyed him! Stan Longinidis - put Aust Kickboxing on the world map - not a turk, Mike Zambidis - destroyed, even humiliated Baris - not a turk / Behic is great but will soon be put into place by Zambidis / what happened to the 'Turkish fighting machines' when they all ventured up to the Star casino a year or so - they all got KO'd!! / what did Chris Christopolidis do to Ozkan a year ago? put him in a brace! not a Turk
Look I'm not putting down Turkish fighters, but lets cut out the typical bull**** hero talk that a small majority of the turkish population seem to do. No you are not the best fighters, and unfortunately when some of you do come close, but not reach, the top, you act like idiots - abusing, critising etc until someone like Zambidis comes along and puts you back in place! (recent memory Baris! its Baris time and all this other crap!)And even when he legitimately got his arse kicked they still raved on about not being ready ect. BUll**** hand man! You come straight out of a comic book! And no I am not Greek!

[paul c]

Does anyone have any factual info that they can give us regarding the original topic question?

Guys, why is it such a dumb mismatch?

If Mundine did decide to fight Ozkan, I reckon it would be his most dangerous fight to date. Though, I think Anthony is aware that Ozkan hits like a heavy-weight, and can't imagine his camp taking such risks without any titles for Mundine to gain.

Turksish fighters....

I'm neither Turkish nor Greak, but have to say that both Ethnic groups have produced some incredibly talented fighters. Those two groups seem to really stand out in Melbourne, but it's not as obvious to me in Sydney. Also, I just thought about it and have realized that I only know a couple of Turkish people in Sydney. I swear, I know more turkish fighters in Melbourne than I do regular Turkish civilians in Sydney.
I think Melbourne must have a much larger Turkish population than what Sydney does.

I don't know if it's just my imagination, but ethnic background doesn't seem to be as big a deal in Sydney. Promoters and fighters seem to make a bigger deal of which Gym the fighters represent than what they do of which country fighters (or fighters parents) originated from. Ethnicity in Sydney only seems to get brought up when fighters are fighting for an International title.

It's all good.

[JANER]

if it wasnt for tarik and his fighters, kickboxing wouldnt be where it is.

[memek]

For The Facts:

- Jacobs DIDNT demolish Ozkan. Who got knocked down? Thus a close fight.

- Ozkan was demolishing Chris Christopolidis. A kneee to the ribs and gurkan fell out of the ring and agrevated his neck. Birtwhistle should of stop the fight well before that incident. Ozkan was on fire! did you see the height difference?? david v goliath!!

- Baris V Zambidis, a great fight which went 12 rounds? WHen have you ever seen a fight last that long in modern day kb or boxing?

The Turkish fighters are great. They have beaten the best and still remain very competitive. They are very colourful and are the best "group" to watch. Tarik Solak shows are the best. Nothing compares to a Solak promotion. NOTHING! and why is that? its beacuse he has the BEST fighters fighting for him.

AS for Stan The Man, yes a very good fighter, but he didnt develop kickboxing as Tarik Solak did.

- BARIS had wooped everyones arese prior to Zambidis. EVRYONES ASS! JUST DUOETT JUST DUOETT!!

- JENK has been at war with best and beaten the best

- TIBET HAMZA cleaned up all the fighters in his era

- Celal Ilhan cleaned them up as well. he put a hell of a fight with jacobs!

- Gurkan OZkan, has knocked the crap out of most of his fighters!

KRAMA, now you tell me which other GROUP of fighters have influenced Australian Kickboxing? and I am not turkish.

[JWP]

Maybe a few Australian fighters like Paul Briggs, Damian Myer, Darren Hedgecock, Steve Vick, Alex Tui, Tony Hill, Kerry Mcnaught, Scott Bannan, Daniel Dawson. Thats a few, they might have helped Australian kickboxing/muay thai a little bit.
John Wayne

pound 4 pound

[John K]

This is a dumb argument anyway, because its a typical macho thing. "Turks are the best" "No, Greeks are the best!" Who cares! but some facts:
Stan The Man was pulling record crowds before Tarik was a major promoter. You should recall that Stan and his promoter Chris Chronis took the sport into the big leagues, major venues, big exposure! You have to go back to the late 80's and early 90's for that, no Tarik back then.
Alex Tui was a major pioneer in those times. These guys put kickboxing on the map.
The likes of Damien Meyer, Paul Briggs and Darren Hedgecock and Kerry Mcnaught were influential in the Muay Thai scene. Without them, much of the Muay Thai scene would not exist.
I can go on and YES the Turkish fighters are good like I said I am a fan but they were NOT pioneers and not influential, they are popular modern day fighters like any number of great fighters around the country!

[Axekick157]

I have to agree with "John K" here, kickboxing has been around well before Tarik and like John said the facts are that Stan did put kickboxing on the map for australia. Not only was Stan a great fighter, but an excellent ambassador for the sport, back then there wasn't half of the politics that goes on with all of Tarik's promotions. All cultures has great fights and im sure these conversations go on all around the world, but at the end of the day, we look at who holds all the titles and that is the tale of the tape.

[kahstallion]

ok well i have to say that gurkan did knock ian jacobs down but after that ian totally dominated gurkan an im being unbiased because of one thing ... gurkan didnt know how to defend against knees than an ian kneed him all night long ,would be different now but hey gurkan did fight with a lotta pride an any other fighter woulda gone down outta sheer fatigue but his pride kept him up.I think that turkish fighters have contributed a lot to australian kickboxing but janer for you to say they made kickboxing in australia shows your lack of history an respect for other fighters.I was at chris chronis stan vs alexio fight an ive never seen a promo like it glasshouse totally filled i was in the nose bleed seats ..tarik is the best promoter now but he hasnt matched that one night i promise u . I think prince amir is the only fighter to have ventured into thailand an fought with some distinction but from memory he was not a top lumpinee fighter like jwp.I believe gurkan is the best fighter that tarik has an i hope he progresses now he is in his proper weight division .....look end of the day the turkish fighters have done well in the middle weights , the greeks ala stan longinedis in the heavyweights an australians ala jwp,paul hurricane briggs, etc in muy thai.
I will make one point about gurkan an im not bagging him but paul briggs took him apart in a boxing match 6 months ago an yes gurkan knocked him out 6 yrs ago but that is old news an paul is 10 times better now while gurkan has not improved as much, so i think paul briggs deserves to fight mundine , anthony mundine may be a show pony but put aside all the bull**** an he is a good boxer an i dont think unless u focus purely on boxing that a kickboxer will just come in an kick ass, timing range an distance is totally diff,even the stance is diff... my opinion is that mundine would beat gurkan ( tho wed all love gurka to knock him out) lol .

[JANER]

kahstallion, great points that you have outlined. And as for John K, are you greek? lol haha kidding. At least I had an oposing argument! keep it up! thats what this forum is all about!

Remember we are all Australian!! oi oi oi!!