Tyson in K-1!!!!!!!

[Koshy]

If tyson was in k1 without even any training he would take out the k1 no doubt.

[cyb5]

not too sure about that...

he is well past his prime ?

what was the point in stating this anyway ?

[Don Damage]

I doubt it.

[Don Damage]

Would sure ruffle a few fethers in the world of K1 and world sports for that matter. Would master Ishi have the budget for it?

[Koshy]

"not too sure about that...

he is well past his prime ?

what was the point in stating this anyway ?

Well I heard tyson is going to stop boxing and fight in K-1 against Bobb Sapp. The money is to good to refuse. Cyb5 would you turn down tyson for 1million I think you would flog him.

[cyb5]

if tyson fought bob sapp of course he would win, thats because sapp cant fight.

but against some one like hoost, or cro cop, i dont see tyson lasting one round of leg kicks, head kicks, rib kicks, etc from these k1 fighters

[Koshy]

So your logic is that Tyson would beat Sapp who cant fight. however he would get beaten by Hoost. Are we talking about the same Sapp who has twice KO'ed Hoost? It must be a different Sapp.

[ozkan_the_second]

What about Tyson and Sapp in Queensberry rules? Just boxing no kicks - oh wait Sapp hasnt thrown a kick in K1 yet! Nah, in boxing it would be a good match but i dont think that Tyson would be good enough with kicks, etc.

[Koshy]

Just dug out this old post. Thought it made interesting reading. LOL

[snoop wog]

i agree that tyson would beat sapp but he couludnt handle leg kicks etc a better match would be tyson v good punchers that can kick hunt or sefo. or good kickers cro cop or hoost

later
snoop wog

[krama]

just a view to take into account -
back when Stan was a tough boy - a heavyweight Euro champ boxer - who was a serious contender for the world title shot - cant remember his name - fought Stan for one of his world title belts in Melb

the guy had deadly hands - Stan easily admitting if some of them connected it would have lights out New York
the outcome - after three rounds of brutal leg kicks to the thigh region - the guy simply dropped and was counted out - win to Stan via TKO
sure Tyson may throw a few tough punches - but the smart boys would simply put an effecive strategy together including vicious leg kicks to the head and body - and as long as they either avoid or block the heavy punches, it would be over within 2 rounds with Tyson crying over his ballooned leg damage

[admin]

I think you're talking about Ratko Draskovic the Serbian who fought Stan at Festival Hall on a Cristofi promotion.

Michael Schiavello

[sooty]

Now Tyson vs Sefo.. That would be a better matchup under K1 Rules.. Id love to see that!
osu

Mark [aka sooty]

[lennox]

It pisses me off to think that ishi is making a big deal out of sapp. the guy is making more money than any other k1 fighter and now ishi is trying to match him up with tyson? sapp of ****, if you ask me!! sapp is a disgrace to k1, and k1 has again kicked itself in the ass. sapp cant fight, even though he beat hoost!! the guy should be in the wwf. he looks awfull when his fighting, he doesn't even throw a kick! its bad for the sport! Especially, when he beats one of our k1 boys! ie; hoost. This just proves that ishi does not care about the sports reputation, and is willing to further turn k1 into a circus! excuse me now, i'm going to throw up!

[Glenn]

The whole K1 is a joke.. People should have a look at the Superleague in Europe which just getting going, much better.
www.superleague.tv

[cyb5]

glenn and lennox.. agree with you both 100%

[snoop wog]

I gree k1 is turning into a joke
hey sooty Tyson vs Sefo would be good to watch atleast put tyson up against the cream of the crop

later
snoop wog

[shenfwu]

I definitely agree wit snoop wog if tyson is gointo fight K-1, put him against the cream of the crop. I would like to see him take on Mark Hunt, n see who would be the more aggressive fighter in the ring. That be nice to see

[newblokes]

I am quite stunned to find this confirmed on www.fightnews.com that Tyson has signed for the challenge. So much for him I feel is at stake. If this goes ahead there is potential for:


(i) A really messy, ugly, war proving nothing to the fans - and make the Crowning look cleaner than a Priest.

(ii) On Tyson's part especially; the injury factor. Yes I know he has trained for years to throw & take punches.. but with a referee saying 'break' at the governed time. I think K1 rules are a little different tough.

I agree he is past his prime and probably not too bright to beat the new 'thinking' heavyweight boxers out there (Klitschko, Bird, Jones Jr.) - BUT whats wrong with fighting a couple of top tenners from the IBF for a couple of mil per round ?

Can I finally suggest, that as it DOES appear K1 Management CAN afford Tyson.. Is it to promote / publicise / umm.. perhaps save the popularity it once had?

But yes I agree it IS interesting and rather unique for something like this to happen. No - I wouldn't knock back a tape of the fight either.


Hamish



Edited by - newblokes on 26 Aug 2003 23:26:01

[madjack]

Tyson heads east for 'The Beast'
From correspondents in Tokyo
August 27, 2003

MIKE Tyson is broadening his horizons.

The 37-year-old former heavyweight boxing champion has signed a contract with Japan's K-1 organization, setting up a potential showdown with former NFL lineman Bob Sapp, K-1's director of media relations said Wednesday in Tokyo.

"The timing was right this time," said the K-1 official, who asked that he not be named. "Mike is very interested in K-1 and has seen many bouts on video."

Sapp, nicknamed "The Beast," is a 193-centimeter (6 feet, 7 inch), 170 kilogram (350 pound) former Minnesota Vikings defensive lineman, who has made a name for himself through K-1. He's a huge celebrity in Japan, where he pushes everything from DVD players to fabric softeners.

Sapp and Tyson engaged in a heated verbal exchange two weeks ago in Las Vegas after the 29-year-old Sapp defeated American Kimo Leopoldo in the K-1 World GP 2003.

Tyson made his way into the ring for Sapp's post-bout celebration and the two had to be separated.

According to some media reports, a Tyson-Sapp bout is tentatively scheduled for late December.

"I think it will be interesting," Sapp was quoted as saying on K-1's official Web site. "Tyson represents boxing, which he believes is the best fighting sport. I don't know what rules will apply if he fights in K-1 but hopefully we'll see which style of fighting is superior."

K-1 combines karate, taekwondo and kickboxing and is tremendously popular in Japan. Bouts are regularly staged before crowds of up to 70,000 and the sport has been looking to tap into the American market.

"Having someone with the name recognition of Tyson certainly will help," said the K-1 official.

Japan has not always been good to Tyson, however.

On Feb. 11, 1990, Tyson lost his world heavyweight title to the relatively unknown Buster Douglas in a huge upset at the Tokyo Dome.

[krama]

Lennox - also agree with view - I'd say Ishi is getting pretty wealthy via the SAPP factor -
we need more fighters to 'cro cop' Sapp - punish him and ko him frequently -
looking at the last Hoost fight - I'd say it was prematurely stopped

[harls]

I think Tyson fighting in the K-1 will generate more public interest in Kickboxing all round. I think this is a good thing..

[lennox]

Good for k1? People (not too familiar with k1) will see Sapp and laugh as he tries to fight his way through his opponent as if he was back on the defensive line for the vikings. Then they will be told this freak show beat k1's best fighter(hoost) not once but twice. If thats not enough, k1 has big bob sapp as their best fighter featuring as the main billing(k1's number one fighter as a promotional ploy)to fight tyson! This is no ordinary vomit! This is green excersist vomit flying across the room! To top it off.....it could be another fix, more appropriately fought under WWF rules! I'd bet current seeded k1 fighters are pissed about all this, but can't do anything about it! They are all treated like pawns and ishi is player no.1. Player no.2 is of course the japanese media!

[paul c]

Don't forget that the K-1 t.v ratings were getting pretty bad in Japan guys.
It was Sapp that pulled them out of a spiral.

You know, I was pissed off at first about the whole wrestling mentality that K-1 seemed to be adopting, but after thinking about it, I reckon it's as clear as day that Ishi knows what he's doing.

Think back to what K-1 started as.
A way to bring the best of the best from several fighting arts.
Ishi is a smart business man. He's looked at the PPV figures for American events and realized how well and how many programs WWE does in a year.

He's just adopted some of their mentality to sensationalize, that's all to better sell his product.
He's not going to forget what K-1 is meant to be, at least I don't reckon he will.

If his plan works, the seeded K-1 fighters will end up better off with much higher paydays. So perhaps it seems that they have been left on the back burner for the moment, but when you think about it, the big GP final prize money is there for them to take while you and I mock the Bob Sapps who are driving the spectator numbers higher and higher.

[JANER]

Imagine Tyson Vs Gurkan Ozkan!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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"Seriously, What the HELL did you expect?"

[supermario]

During pre-fight interviews that were shown on fox sports when they aired the K-1 Oceania 2000, the first, Gurkan Ozkan said he would fight anybody over three rounds. Including Tyson. Hello.....! What was then absurd, is now an actual possibility. Crazy stuff.

[paul c]

Re Lennox Post about people seeing Sapp and laughing at K-1.

I really think it's Bob's job to bring in the new spectators to a serious fight sport Lennox. I mean guys like me a few years ago who didn't know a good kickboxer from a bad one. I think Bob has appeal to kids. The same kids that con their mum and dad's into getting them the wrestling PPV's and Mcdonalds for dinner. Bob will never impress those that are regular boxing and fight sport watchers. I reckon Tyson will bring them, plus many more that want to see what they percieve as a real sport- Boxing- smash the Karate Kids.

[paul c]

True Supermario.

Incredible.

I think Tarik once said that if we keep supporting his shows, that he'll one day bring us Tyson.


Hey, I wanna see Gurkan Vs Sapp.
Damn, I can already see the stare down and then Ozkan shoving him just to piss him off.


Edited by - paul c on 29 Aug 2003 15:56:31

[cyb5]

sapp v tyson wont happen under ki rules anyway

[Koshy]

"sapp v tyson wont happen under ki rules anyway"

How do you know this. Didn't you say what was the point of asking who would win between Sapp / Tyson because it would not happen?

[cyb5]

because tyson has signed a contract has with iishi for publicity only. ...

[paul c]

I read it was for publicity and management outside of the U.S.

Then I half read an article about K-1 selling the contract, or part of it to Inoki.
Does anyone know more about this?

Edited by - paul c on 31 Aug 2003 20:43:50

[Koshy]

"because tyson has signed a contract has with iishi for publicity only. ..."

WHAT???? how do you know this? do you work for k-1? What is the reasoning behind you saying this? It fine to say he signed for publicity but what are you basing your views on.

[paul c]

It think I read it in a N.Y times article which was posted on Sherdog koshy.

I don't know if your a member, if not, check it out.

www.sherdog.net

There are a lot of threads regarding Tyson and K1 on there. Many have links to pretty big print publication articles.