Melbourne Muay Thai Gyms

[dabbler]

Hi,

I'm looking at crossing-training in Muay Thai/KB. I saw in the International Kickboxer Magazine 2 inner-city gyms, Sityodtong in Flemington (which is a tad too far from where I live, but I would still like to visit one day)& JTS Martial Arts in Richmond.

Has any one trained at these gyms or are currently still training there? Just wanted to know what their experience of training is like & what the training methods are.

I'm just trying to find a good gym that is stable & here to stay & also delivers quality training.

Also, does anyone know of any other Muay Thai Gyms, preferably in the South Eastern area of Melbourne.

Thanks everyone.

[Glenn]

I have been told that the guy running Sityodtong is an ex-stadium fighter in Thailand. If I lived on that side of the city I would go there for sure to check it out.

Be wary of gyms bastardizing Muay Thai here in Melbourne. Karate/Kick boxing with the occassional knee or elbow does not make it Muay Thai.

[harls]

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[the one and only]

looking for a good muay thai trainer. go to sunshine and train with John Scida the best muay thai trainer around. He has produced many of fighters and many of the fighters he has produced all have titles to show ther skill and how good they are and that shows what a good train John Scida reall is.
So if you want to train Muay Thai come to sunshine or contact john Scida. His number is in the blitz magazine and there is whole page on him and the club.

[dabbler]

Thanks for your help folks.

Being new to the Muay Thai scene, I don't want to end up in a gym claiming to teach Muay Thai when it doesn't.

At first, I'm looking at only cross-training in Muay Thai, I'll probably eventually quit the style I'm currently studying (Kyokushin)& take up Muay Thai as my main study.

Although I would like to learn to spar Muay Thai style, I only want to study Muay Thai a couple of times a week for self defence & fitness, & have no desire to compete on the fight circuit.

Are there any expectations or requirements from the trainers/instructors that students are to participate in the fight circuit, when training at Muay Thai gyms ?

[lamb_chops]

na not at all,if you come down to west sunshine team ultimate just roll up on a mon or wed as we run muay thai classes from 7-8 first lessons free then its $8 every lesson or you can join up fully in which leads to a fully gradded thaiboxing circuit.

[LX]

hey guys I just got to Melbourne 2 weeks back and i have been looking for a genuine muay thai gym and failed to find one...i live in the city so it would help if any of you guys know where to find a good gym in the city...thanks

LX

[sityodtong]

Authentic Muay Thai is difficult to find and too many people claim to be authentic. The style is complex (even though it may look easy) and takes the Thai's years of hard-work to master.

Of course, I am prejudiced, The Sityodtong Academy (Flemington), is certainly authentic. The thai trainer is an ex-champion (although not one anyone would recognise). He is affiliated with Kru Yodtong (Pattaya) and Samart Piyakoroon.

Come and train with him and you will see an amazing difference in technique, persistence and style.

51 Robertson Street, Flemington/ Kensington (just near the McAuley Train Station) : (03) 9687-7225

[JTS]

JTS teaches traditional Muay Thai master and complimentary techniques monday, tuesday, friday and saturday. I have been training with Tao for a couple of years now and he is a good teacher. give Tao a call and he can give you details. (03) 9428 4229 or 0403 818 985

[JTS]

hey guys

jts muay thai has traditional muay thai classes. tao is the instructors name. he's a QLD fighter. he came from a kung fu background originally and i believe he still teaches kung fu as well. his started thai boxing on the sunshine coast back in the very early ninties (probably with joe hilton... who needs no intro) but then moved to brisbane where he trained with jim cass in the valley. he trains in thailand mostly now tho... he certainly goes there every year. he trains alot at fairtex, but i've also heard him mention jitti's and vorapins gym in bangkok. his gym has lots of photos of him and his crew training at wmc on samui as well so i guess he's trained there too.

anyway he certainly has good credibility. and his gym offers real training in a traditional way. he trains a few fighters, but i guess many train with him for fitness. he always stresses the fighting priciples tho and never lets people take it as some sort of "THAIBOXACISE" class.

anyway, he's a great boxer, and a really well-grounded guy.
what more ja want!

[lamb_chops]

I think you should come and train with us at team ultimate (john scida),we train many fighters form boxers to kickboxers to thaiboxers such as the hitman anthoney vella one of the best muay thai fighters who beat everyone here and beat some good thais in the early days,and also alot more thaiboxers and kickboxers we have fighting at present.we also run really good muay thai classes twice a week with a full gradded ultimate muay thai system,we have kids from the ages of 10 to adults to the ages of 50 and a great mixed class with women aswell. john scida is the master of putting everything together even if you are not a fighter he trains his students and teaches them the skill the same as he does with the fighters.don't forget you have to have good boxing skill,good kicking skill and good grappling skill to be a good all round muay thai fighter,some gyms are just to much kick elbow knee and just forget about the rest and think they are teaching good muay thai but forget you need to have everything in your weponary. And as john scida is a really good boxing trainer,good kicking trainer and good grappling trainer and he incoporates all that into your skill,thats why we have fighters that can just box just kickbox and can match some of the best muay thai fighters in full thai rules. contact john scida on 0411665565 for details.

[twins_kovacevic]

hey i live in st.albans im looking for gyms dat offer Muay Thai classes, some1 mentioned dat ders one in sunshine, could u plz tell me wer in sunshine is it??
thnx alot :):):)

[imported_n/a]

Hey Twins if you live in Sunshine the gym is Ultimate Muay Thai, they have lessons & fighter training

contact john scida on 0411665565 he is the head trainer

[Mad_Hatter]

best thing to do is go and try out all the gyms that are possibilities and find the trainer and schedule that best suits you...

[Hellfighter]

hey Sityodthong, just a quick word of advice, if you want to name drop and get your Gym out there spell the fighters name correct... Samart Payak-aroon & yes, this is from the Thais themselves and not from a magazine

lambchops, I noticed you failed to mention that Anthony "The Hitman" Vella got retired by Paul "Hurricane" Briggs during their World Title fight by a snapped ACL... Vella was certainly an awesome fighter and did much damage to Louie "The Ice" Isofidis, but the history of a fighter always catches up

to the 2 members above, I'm not trying to start an argument or nitpick, but if you wish to push your Gym as "the best and the most authentic" use all the information you have and spell the LEGENDS properly... there is no shame to have lost to the "Hurricane" most certainly a force to be reckoned with

[Killer Karl]

Pull your head in then Hell Fighter Lamb Chops is no longer with Ultimate (Check the dates)and I thought Shiv posted something about not having a go at spelling. Gyms can promote what they want if you don't like it come down to the gyms in question and turn it on. Or go back to the hole whence you came. Hehe.

[Hellfighter]

oh my bad about the dates, but concerning the spelling of one of the best fighters their founding Gym ever created it's common courtesy to spell their name correctly

*crawls back sheepishly into the cave*

[harls]

Yet another post for melb MT classes. Gee I won't suggest a sticky thread for this subject again, as no one has enquired about MT classes in melbourne before..

[sityodtong]

Mr Hellfighter,

I would suggest that you do a bit of research before commenting on things you really know nothing about. Also, if you know the Thai Culture/ people involved, you should do better to choose your target.

Firstly, the appropriate spelling of Sityodtong and Samart Piyakoroon is actually written in the Thai Script. There is NO CORRECT translation to the english language as you can have up to 5 different variations. If you had any inkling about the thai language, you would realise that there is no direct translation of certain sounds. For example, Kru Yodtong is pronounced "Yod" - "tong" NOT "Yod"-"THong". The Thai sound for "T" in the word "Tong" is a TH in english. Problem is, THONG in English is not the correct pronunciation. Try and refer to Kru YODTHONG in person and see what response you get.

Second, we haven’t stolen a Thai name to uplift our gym - we ARE the Australian franchise of the Academy. We do not "name-drop" and anyone that knows Jeab understands he is one of the most humble trainers around. Just to appease you, how about you call down to our gym and have a look at some of our memorabilia:
(a) the licence signed by Kru Yodtong for us to operate the Australian brand;
(b) our wedding pictures - the reception of which was hosted by Samart Piyakoroon in honor of his friendship with Jeab;
(c) the pictures in the various magazines/ fights that Samart has copied for Jeab to put around the stadium.

One thing that you are right about though, Samart is clearly one of the best fighters produced from Sityodtong - Pattaya.

A final note, prior to us opening the Australian branch, we discsused all the variations of the english language with the people involved (namely Yodtong and Samart) and came up with an english spelling that would best derive the correct english pronouciation. Hence, "PI-YAK" NOT "PAY-AK" aroon and SIT-YOD-TONG NOT SID-YOD-THONG (or any other variations).

[Hellfighter]

I never suggested that you "stole" your Gym name... you actually emailed me after setting up in Melbourne to ask if my Gym wanted to join with yours

thanks for taken the time to clear up the spelling, I have never seen it written in any other way

and I really hope I have some idea about the MuayThai side of things, otherwise I may get labelled a fraud and that would upset me

[Imsta]

dabbler,

Young bulls gym also train in Muay Thai.

However if you want to learn something different, we teach Kun Khmer and our gym is in Dandenong. 60 Hammond Road.


www.kunkhmer.org

[texaswr]

If your in the south east, give young bulls a try in dandenong (somewhere around Bennet St).
trainer is Laos Toohey.
If your after more info, ie training times, adresses or contact number just ask.

[Bushi]

Guys, this thread was started 5 years ago.... DOH..

[Hironaka]

While it's here, does anyone know of any MT/Kickboxing/Boxing gyms in South Melbourne? None of that gay stuff that chicks do to lose weight, I am talking about blood, sweat and tears type gyms.

Thanks

[Bushi]

Richmond is 5 minutes away..

[Hironaka]

quote:Originally posted by zdkbushido

Richmond is 5 minutes away..


Yeah maybe if Captain Kirk can teleport you across the traffic at peak hour in a Formula One race car, Old Man.

[Bushi]

Enough of the old..[}:)]:(;)

ok it's 25 in peak hour, you didn't clarify....:D

[TAO @ JTS]

awww hiro, come on its not that far... sometimes you might have to invest 10 or 20 mins travel time for "blood, sweat and tears type gyms". if you come down, we almost assure you blood sweat and tears in every session. hehe. you might drop a few pounds too... not that bushi did haha.

CHOK DEE

[Bushi]

:(:(

[Imsta]

haha you're a fat boy like me.

[jeka-jye]

can sum 1 give me info on john scidas muay thia gym please thanx i wanana start the upcoming monday or what ever days its on

[ChrisQ]

quote:Originally posted by jeka-jye

can sum 1 give me info on john scidas muay thia gym please thanx i wanana start the upcoming monday or what ever days its on


http://users.bigpond.net.au/diablo/WMCVic.html

[DazMon]

My page works again, keeps on working, any gyms want to add to it?

[UBD]

quote:Originally posted by dabbler

Hi,

I'm looking at crossing-training in Muay Thai/KB. I saw in the International Kickboxer Magazine 2 inner-city gyms, Sityodtong in Flemington (which is a tad too far from where I live, but I would still like to visit one day)& JTS Martial Arts in Richmond.

Has any one trained at these gyms or are currently still training there? Just wanted to know what their experience of training is like & what the training methods are.

I'm just trying to find a good gym that is stable & here to stay & also delivers quality training.

Also, does anyone know of any other Muay Thai Gyms, preferably in the South Eastern area of Melbourne.

Thanks everyone.

[UBD]

Hi,

Just leeting you know that Iam a Thai Muay Thai trainer and will strat training at a new gym in the city soon. If you're interested let me know.

contact or sms: 0431 369 388

quote:Originally posted by dabbler

Hi,

I'm looking at crossing-training in Muay Thai/KB. I saw in the International Kickboxer Magazine 2 inner-city gyms, Sityodtong in Flemington (which is a tad too far from where I live, but I would still like to visit one day)& JTS Martial Arts in Richmond.

Has any one trained at these gyms or are currently still training there? Just wanted to know what their experience of training is like & what the training methods are.

I'm just trying to find a good gym that is stable & here to stay & also delivers quality training.

Also, does anyone know of any other Muay Thai Gyms, preferably in the South Eastern area of Melbourne.

Thanks everyone.

[UBD]

Hi,

I am Thai and currently train people in Muay Thai. I have trained people in Thailand for many years. I may be interested in this position. My email address is ub_fullmoon@hotmail.com

Contact me.

UB

quote:Originally posted by the one and only

looking for a good muay thai trainer. go to sunshine and train with John Scida the best muay thai trainer around. He has produced many of fighters and many of the fighters he has produced all have titles to show ther skill and how good they are and that shows what a good train John Scida reall is.
So if you want to train Muay Thai come to sunshine or contact john Scida. His number is in the blitz magazine and there is whole page on him and the club.

[pahos69]

Mate, how olds this thread

[Hellfighter]

it was restarted a few months ago

[GRIZZLEY]

check out ULTIMATE GYMS as they have 5 gyms around Melbourne and as far as quality training ? well i think the name ULTIMATE speaks for itself and also with the champions that it has produced

[wants2train]

instead of starting a new thread i thought i would ask here. Dose anyone train or know much about the new Ultimate Gym in st albans?

Or any other good MT gyms in the area?

[DazMon]

Yes, it is a very well-equipped gym.
Had an interclub there a month or so ago and it fitted everyone comfortably plus the ring was nice to work in.
Lots of bags, mirrors, matted areas, nostalgia and the like!
Wouldn't expect anything less from Johnny...

[wants2train]

thanks dazmon. Im a absolute beginner and im looking for a gym to train in, will go check it out then

[jarhead]

one should be careful wich gym they choose a black singlet in muaythai dont mean sh!t
huadaw

[ChrisQ]

one should be careful wich gym they choose a black singlet in muaythai dont mean sh!t


I think that's a bit far off the mark Jared.
Depending on which group/organisation has awarded the black singlet, then the meaning behind it could be quite substantial.

Depending on which gym, obtaining a black singlet in BJC Muay Thai is a great achievement and takes a lot of time, effort, passion and dedication.

[jarhead]

grading systems are edgar
muaythai is the same as boxing in its grading
imagine some guy/girl told you they had a black grading in boxing
just people exploiting....

[jarhead]

bjc gyms you can get a black singlet with very basic clinch skills
that is a very very important thai boxing skill that is integral to muaythai
not trying to knock bob but the singlet system is poo
im sick of people telling me there a black singlet qualified trainer
kway

[Bushi]

Yeah you're a bit harsh there Jarhead...

Mat Reid, Tom Murray, and Aaron Cheney are 3 fighters who I believe got their singlets AFTER they had fought. Such was the respect that they gave the gradign sytem and what it stood for. By memory Aaron Cheney got his after having something like 10 fights....

Now I'm noy suggesting for 1 minute that they also didn't go off and have some "thai training" either, but give it some credit for what it has produced.

It's also no different to fighters who train in "thai gyms", in that some are really good, others are in your words... "poo";)

The black singlet has it's merits, it doesn't always produce fighters, (and it's not designed for that) but then again either does every fight gym...

Each to their own, but I think you have been a bit harsh..

I suppose it's like getting a crowd controllers license and standing on the door of an RSL...:D everything has it's purpose..

[Hellfighter]

but under the BJC system, that is the way it was supposed to happen Bushi... well it was in 1991 when I got mine

also, have you ever stood on the door of an RSL? it's a mongrel of a job and has been open to more trouble than many pubs

I'm not being smart by asking you this question, but until you've done it, you'll never know what can/does/will happen

at the end of the day, some people train and fight to gain experience and a "reputation", others want something to put on their wall to show what they've done

[Bushi]

So Dave what you're saying is it's pointless to get graded if you don't want to fight?

And I guess things to go on walls are also good for what you want them for, just like photo's... they serve a purpose for many, mean a lot more to others...

Oh and btw, the RSL comment was my little dig at Jarhead... btw Jarhead if you're still working out at on the Princes Hwy, let me know, I'll come buy a beer and chat with you, it's now my local, I can stagger home from there if I have a few to many...:o

[Hellfighter]

when I got my black singlet the system in place was that by each grading you had to have had so many fights, obviously in my case and many others that didn't occur, for the sad truth is that money can get you many things... I paid the same amount as all the other students and fighters, but was just allowed to grade, actually I was never even asked if I wanted to fight

gradings are great idea of where you are within your training, but I agree with Jarhead that just because A has a black singlet, doesn't make them any better (or worse) than B who has just trained their arse off for 5yrs, it just means they have been recognised within their Gym and have a certificate and another item of clothing to wash

photos & certificates are great to have on your wall to show where you have been and what you have gained... a wonderful trip down memory lane

I have many certificates and many photos, but they don't necessarily mean anything to anyone but me e.g. my favourite photos are those with the fighters that have just achieved something:

Chalermdet Infinity after defeating 3 nakmuay in the afternoon at the Gai Yang Haa Dao

Nong-O Sit Or after defeating Wuttidet Luukprabaht and winning the Lumpinee Birthday Cup

Saenchai Sor Kingstar after KO'ing out Nong-O ;-)

and my certificates are the ones of the seminars I promoted in the mid-90's with the Thais

as I said, to me they are awesome memories and to others they may be interesting or just another chance to bag me out

either way, I'm very happy and I hope everybody gets out of their training what ever it is they desire to accomplish

[ChrisQ]

The black singlet has it's merits, it doesn't always produce fighters, (and it's not designed for that) but then again either does every fight gym...


Agreed.

Again I think it all comes down to the gym and how high they set the bar.
To me singlets and grading have nothing to do with fighting. Two very seperate things.

I regret not having the opportunity to go for my black singlet, but I know how hard I worked to get to my Brown and that means a lot to me.

I'm sure many will say the same thing.

[gvmartialarts]

Lol @ Jarhead. He is welcome to come up and spar any of my black singlets, and only 2-5% would have been in the ring. Like Chris said, it depends on the gym.

[DazMon]

I had a matched fight not long before my black singlet grading, I didn't consider it as endangering my chances to do the 6 hour grading successfully, I treated it as part of the journey. There were a few others who did that back then, sadly since then its dropped off in its importance.
I find it really hard these days to listen to anyone who hasn't been in the ring. So now any kid who has fought in front of a 500+ strong cheering crowd and won, lost or drawn can say something to me and I will listen with interest. Anyone else find that?

[Kano]

Didn't one of your black singlets drop jarhead with a body rip Mat??

It is each to their own, I am not interested in fighting, never have. But I have enjoyed the journey of gradings and will continue to do so in the future. Others that have only had a couple of gradings and fought and have done extremely well.

[Kano]

I find it really hard these days to listen to anyone who hasn't been in the ring. So now any kid who has fought in front of a 500+ strong cheering crowd and won, lost or drawn can say something to me and I will listen with interest. Anyone else find that?

Yes and no Daz, I think you have got to pick the person that you are listening to. There are plenty of people that have been around a hell of a long time but not fought that are educational. Granted, they don't know the pain and the sacrifices that the fighters make, but they are there holding pads, helping them train, prepping them for the fight and being a mate...

[DazMon]

Kano, me & you, we've been in the ring with these kids, sometimes we know them, often we don't, we experience another side of the sport. Its the result of hard training but removed from the gym on the night, it could be brutal & bloody, but honest and genuine, the kids get in not knowing whats going to happen but get out of the ring a lot more wiser and have tested themselves, eager to do it all again. We see it right up close.

[DazMon]

Oh, maybe I should have waited an extra minute and seen that post!
Of course there are a heap of people on the sidelines, they are all part of it. Everyone has their interests & specialities.
You'd have to have a screw loose not to listen to them.

[Hellfighter]

sometimes what happens in training can be more entertaining and take a harder toll on the student than what some fighters go thru

[jarhead]

i never lost a fight by bodyrip i think your talking about someone dropping me when i was on that carnatine sh!t at training..
i trained bjc it opened my eyes to the sport and it changed my life and i appreciate that.

as for working at sh!thole pokie joints im finished with that pension eating Hore hole but il see ya around bush... sorry to upset people but i'm not feeling the hole grading system huadaw.

[DazMon]

Whats wrong with Carnitine?

[jarhead]

it chewed up my guts cause i wasn't eating

[ChrisQ]

Yeh its like taking a multi vitamin without eating. Similar effect.

[DazMon]

my page is back up:
www.dazmon.com/WMCVic.html

I'm thinking of renaming it to GymVic coz WMC doesn't have too much going on down here...