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redneck
12-10-2009, 01:07 PM
Cage rage coming here


http://images.smh.com.au/ftsmh/ffximage/2009/10/10/cage_wideweb__470x208,0.jpg

'It's madness. If this was the animal world, the RSPCA would come down on you like a ton of bricks.'


Caroline Marcus, Tom Reilly and Cameron Houston
October 11, 2009

THE sport described by critics as "human cockfighting" is coming to a stadium near you, despite warnings that US-style cage fighting will fuel more violence on the city's streets.

The combat sport, known as mixed martial arts, will be launched in Sydney early next year by the US promoter Ultimate Fighting Championship.

Legal representatives of the company have approached the Combat Sports Authority to seek permission to stage a bout in February, with organisers understood to be looking at the Acer Arena in Sydney Olympic Park.

Despite the sport being banned in 10 US states, UFC president of the British division Marshall Zelaznik confirmed that cage fighting was coming to Australia. "It's going to happen, we're coming," he said. "Planning is in effect, we've had a number of strategy meetings and we are on the verge of retaining some key partners in Australia."

UFC fighters use a brutal combination of martial arts, boxing, kick boxing and wrestling inside a cage called the octagon.

Competitors are permitted to pin an opponent to the floor and punch or elbow them into unconsciousness in a move known as "pound and ground". UFC rules explicitly ban fighters avoiding contact, faking injury or throwing in the towel, while the absence of a blood rule often leaves the octagon looking more like an abattoir.

New laws to be introduced in NSW from January 1 next year will mean anyone who wishes to promote a professional combat sport contest must apply for a permit from the Combat Sports Authority and all fighters and officials must be registered with the group.

Harsh penalties would be dealt to anyone considered to be exploiting combatants with unsafe environments and practices, NSW Sports Minister Kevin Greene said.

"These sports are not to everyone's taste and I'm certainly not a fan of cage fighting," Mr Greene said.

The first cage fighting bouts were staged in Australia in 2007, with a championship staged at Sydney's Luna Park in May last year attracting football players, and television and music stars.

Health experts have condemned UFC plans to introduce the contentious sport into Australia. "It's madness. If this was the animal world, the RSPCA would come down on you like a ton of bricks," said leading neurologist Professor Mark Cook of St Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne.

"As in boxing, the nature of sport means that brain injury is inevitable and this cage fighting may be worse, with people allowed to hit somebody while on the ground."

A prominent criminologist questioned whether UFC should be staged in Australia .

"This is the last thing we need to be importing," said Professor Rob White from the University of Tasmania. "UFC may have an even bigger impact than other forms of violence because it is a blood sport where we make heroes out of people who bash each other."

But Mr Zelaznik dismissed the sport's violent reputation: "There are strict safety measures to protect the fighters. There's no denying it's a combat sport and it may not be for everybody but there's some sports that I'm not totally keen on, like lawn bowling."

Mixed Martial Arts has become the fastest growing sport in the US, according to market research firm Ipsos Reid. Some fans pay up to $10,000 for front-row seats but it is the sale of television rights that is primarily responsible for the global expansion of the UFC empire, which was valued at $1.1 billion by the magazine Forbes last year.

Mr Zelaznik said UFC would target a young male audience in Australia. Television rights were being negotiated with Foxtel, Ten's new high-definition sports channel and a prominent pay-per-view network.

Source: The Sun-Herald


http://www.smh.com.au/news/sport/cage-rage-coming-here/2009/10/10/1255019652968.html

redneck
12-10-2009, 01:10 PM
I thought that we'd moved beyond this silly "Human Cockfighting" stuff a decade ago. Maybe a well laid out rebuttal to the Herald-Sun & Sydney Morning Herald is needed here.

Crooklyn
12-10-2009, 01:17 PM
Sounds like those journalists need a crash course in what MMA is really about. "Pound and ground"...LOL!

I had no idea that the UFC had explicit rules on throwing in the towel. That must be a new rule for Oz.

redneck
12-10-2009, 01:33 PM
Yeah, since when can't they throw in the towel? And they have neglected to mention that the fighter can tap out at any time he wants to.

daniel_kmt
12-10-2009, 02:28 PM
Another perfect example why people shouldn't publish articles when they have absolutely no idea what they are on about.

HAMMER
12-10-2009, 02:50 PM
Interesting that they interviewed me for this story also but didn't use any of my comments supporting the event/sport... seems they were not happy about my comments in support?

The mainstream media can really be one sided at times and this is just ANOTHER example of that.

Mark "Hammer" Castagnini

King Brown
12-10-2009, 04:21 PM
Interesting that they interviewed me for this story also but didn't use any of my comments supporting the event/sport... seems they were not happy about my comments in support?

The mainstream media can really be one sided at times and this is just ANOTHER example of that.

Mark "Hammer" Castagnini

Hey Hammer.
It makes obvious sence for them to interview yourself but do you mean they did not use ANYTHING you had to say?
Hardly unbiast reporting!

HAMMER
12-10-2009, 06:41 PM
Yep 30 min interview and not even 1 quote?... think they were maybe after another angle..?

jarrah
12-10-2009, 06:54 PM
This drives me crazy to no end.

Especially as the the journalist took five minutes in researching it...

Pound and ground????

First cage fight was in Oz ‘07???...try ‘96

And obviously they omitted anything Hammer or anyone said favouring the sport.

This will piss me off for 3 days...

scottya
12-10-2009, 07:04 PM
Jarrah
I just sent you a painful email to answer so that mite help take your mine off things for 5mins give or take

samui
12-10-2009, 07:16 PM
I wonder what these new laws commencing on Jan 1st consist of?

Hollywood1
12-10-2009, 07:26 PM
i hate clueless reporters.........i really do wish they hired someone half educated to write up a story on this topic.1st of all about the RSPCA comment, we choose to step inside that cage animals dont. 2nd of all there are medical checks done prior to a fight, there are on site professional cut men in between rounds and a pro referee to stop the bout at any time there is too much punishment delivered to an opponent, and last of all this sport is growing rapidly overseas and i hope after the UFC comes in February the trend will continue here.....i can see it already back page of the daily telegraph late 2010 "2 mma titles on the line this friday night"

Makaba
13-10-2009, 08:28 AM
The negative journalism will continue as long as the sport continues. Just hope they bring at least one UFC show to Aus.I'll buy a ticket for sure.

jarrah
13-10-2009, 11:25 AM
Jarrah
I just sent you a painful email to answer so that mite help take your mine off things for 5mins give or take

Thanks Scottya, I know I can rely on you to deliver my daily quota of pain.

;)

dragon
13-10-2009, 05:16 PM
2UE contacted Mick Spinks last night to respond to the article. Was a pretty fair interview, good to have a chance to mindfully discuss it.

Voice
13-10-2009, 05:26 PM
the cage is the problem with the public/media. Note the photo peers through the cage and the connotations are that 'two men enter, one man leaves' (Mad Max Beyond Thunderdome:D).
This of course is a load of crap and the cage serves nothing more than a bit of back support and a visual prop. It somewhat obscures the view of the audience yet the psychological impact on the media and detractors is massive.

That said, if the cage was scrapped MMA would probably attract little more media attention than Greco-Roman wrestling on an Olympic mat.
The cage is the problem but without it the sport would struggle.

Mad_Hatter
13-10-2009, 05:49 PM
"It's madness. If this was the animal world, the RSPCA would come down on you like a ton of bricks," said leading neurologist Professor Mark Cook of St Vincent's Hospital in Melbourne.

lmao... people choose to fight... that is the most ridiculous quote I have ever seen in an article about fight sports... I have no doubt we will never see a positive article on fightsports simply because too many people don't like it and therefore think we are monsters...

but WE CHOOSE to do these sports.. we choose to watch them because we like them... if you don't like it DON'T WATCH IT!!!

*end rant*

daniel_kmt
14-10-2009, 02:30 PM
People will always try and put down what they don't understand because they are intimidated by it.

scottya
14-10-2009, 02:41 PM
That said, if the cage was scrapped MMA would probably attract little more media attention than Greco-Roman wrestling on an Olympic mat.
The cage is the problem but without it the sport would struggle.

When sparten was taken off on the gold coast under kerry dunn one of the TV station got footage some how & took kerry apart on the news about the sport & it was just in the ring

If they want to make a story from it & run the sport down they will cage or not

If someone from the sport got into goverment & made them open there eyes to what dose go on they mite see things different but that will never happen till JWP runs for PM

scottya
14-10-2009, 03:31 PM
Look out the Simpsons are getting into MMA

http://excessiveforce.com.au/images/news/simpsonsMMA_0_0.jpg

http://excessiveforce.com.au/AnnouncementRetrieve.aspx?ID=23466

redneck
14-10-2009, 06:00 PM
Australian MMA Fighter, Elvis Sinosic, responds to the article.

http://www.watchkalibrun.com/2009/10/13/1084325/australian-mma-star-elvis-sinosic

Voice
14-10-2009, 07:19 PM
a decent reply from Elvis (even if only on an internet site that most Australians wouldn't have heard of) though I had to smile at his modesty...
My name is Elvis Sinosic. I am Australia’s most well know Mixed Martial Artist (you would no doubt label me a cage fighter).

No point firing back at the journalist regarding unchecked facts and poor research...if you really want to stick it to them you send an email to the sports editor. Editors at major papers get very p'd off when these types of articles demonstrate C-grade journalism.

Hollywood1
15-10-2009, 12:07 AM
good on ya elvis! give it to em i would have done the same well said!

Makaba
15-10-2009, 04:26 PM
Other dangerous sports where participants get injured far more often and severely never seem to get mentioned. Eg: Rugby, Car Racing, Motorcycle Racing, Football, Boxing......the list goes on. Some of these sports have had numerous deaths over the years.

redneck
15-10-2009, 05:55 PM
Other dangerous sports where participants get injured far more often and severely never seem to get mentioned. Eg: Rugby, Car Racing, Motorcycle Racing, Football, Boxing......the list goes on. Some of these sports have had numerous deaths over the years.



With the exception of Boxing, the argument from the 'against' side there is that in Rugby, Car Racing etc, the object of the sport is not primarily to intentionally hurt your opponent. On a side note, cheerleading is actually responsible for more deaths per year than combat sports.